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| what other power handles are you guys useing on the revos ? |
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| Just curious, why would you want to use a handle other than the one provided? Seems pretty adequate to the task to me. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I'd have to disagree 100% with Pete, I have posted about this at length in other threads, and I am sure you can do a search and find what I have said...and I stick by it..the Abu supplied "power handle" to me isn't exactly a power handle as it is the exact same width as the standard double paddle handle so in my mind it doesn't provide any more "power", simply provides more comfort and ease with the big rubber dealio to hold on to....to me, a power handle is a handle that is farther out from the shaft than the stock handle and actually provides more ease of motion bringing in big baits or hard pulling baits...ie. look at the Penn power handles, shimano's etc etc....
I put a TE 400 power handle on my revo Winch when I got it a year ago and would never go back... if you want "adequate" then stick to the stock handle..if you want "better/best" then put a TE 400 handle on it...imho.
adequate is average....I'd rather do things a lot differently...kinda like 1 fish a day is adequate to some...  my 2 cents. |
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| Power can mean different things to different people. To me I like the term "the chain is only as strong as the weakest link" If you think about the links in your reeling muscles you start with your shoulder, down your arm, and then your fingers. Take a look at how little of your fingers touch a standard handle versus how much of your fingers touch a power handle. The power handle make the "last link" much stronger.
And while the power handle and the double handle are the same length on the Toro handles they are still longer than most handles. |
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| I agree with bn 100 %. He knows his stuff about equipment. I did the same thing with my Winch. Upgrade! Reelman you sure about the handles being longer than "most"? I'd say not. |
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Location: Canada | Reelman you sure about the handles being longer than "most"? I'd say not. As reelman mentions I am sure too that the stock supplied double paddle handle and power handle are longer than most. I put a power handle I had bought from eBay on my C4 and yes it was longer than the stock handle but after buying my winch I noticed that the supplied power handle it came with was even longer. Me not really liking the single power handle that much unless it's on a trolling reel preferred the double paddle and I bought a couple of the double paddle handles from revo toros from guys that switched out to the power handle to use on my C4's. |
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| BNelson - 4/28/2011 6:22 AM
I'd have to disagree 100% with Pete, I have posted about this at length in other threads, and I am sure you can do a search and find what I have said...and I stick by it..the Abu supplied "power handle" to me isn't exactly a power handle as it is the exact same width as the standard double paddle handle so in my mind it doesn't provide any more "power", simply provides more comfort and ease with the big rubber dealio to hold on to....to me, a power handle is a handle that is farther out from the shaft than the stock handle and actually provides more ease of motion bringing in big baits or hard pulling baits...ie. look at the Penn power handles, shimano's etc etc....
I put a TE 400 power handle on my revo Winch when I got it a year ago and would never go back... if you want "adequate" then stick to the stock handle..if you want "better/best" then put a TE 400 handle on it...imho.
adequate is average....I'd rather do things a lot differently...kinda like 1 fish a day is adequate to some... my 2 cents.
You cant sompare the power handle of a Toro to the normal handle supplied with the Toro. You have to compare it to other 5000 and 6000 Abu reels.
It is wierd though, that they have two handles of the same lenght for one reel. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Most Bass reel handles are 80 - 85mm long, and most 400 size reels have 90mm long handles.
ABU 5500-6600 85 mm
ABU Toro 95mm long, the stock double paddle and the single power handle
Daiwa 300 90mm
Shimano 400B 85mm
Shimano 300-400 TE 90mm
Okuma Induron 85mm
As U can see from the list above that the Toro reels have the longest stock handle, the longer the handle the more power U have to turn the reel handle.
But when U put a longer handle on a reel U have to ask yourself one ? will the reel gears take the extra stress you are putting on the gears ???????
The Toro power handle is the same size as the double paddle stock handle but U have more contact with the larger single paddle and it will feel like U have more power because U have a larger contact point. Also at the end of the day your fingers will not hurt as bad, Reelman hit it right on the nail.
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Location: Contrarian Island | "you're killin me Smalls"...the poster asks what other power handles are people putting on their Toro's...well, I think I answered it and now we are debating what a power handle is.... to say that the "power handle" that comes w the Toro has more "power" than a 5500 handle...well yah, duh. in any case...adequate equates to stock then in the above scenario Pikemaster outlines....anyone that thinks the stock single paddle handle with the Toro is adequate, fine, leave it on and have at it...any anyone that might want a better mousetrap...well then put a different one on....
I measured a bunch of handles in another thread and I know for a fact the Penn 975 Power handle is longer even at the shorter of the 2 settings..the TE 400 Handle is longer and even a double paddle handle I bought from Bass Pro is longer...
if "power" means having more comfort and points of contact to hold onto...well then yet again the TE 400 power handle provids more "power" for those people too as the rubber dealio is bigger.
and I question anyone who thinks the stock paddle handle is "adequate" if they haven't tried the TE handle on it...
sorta like saying a 7' Rod is adequate ..right? then you might as well sell all your 8'6" and 9 footers...crax me up really |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Here is some info, ABU makes a 105mm Double paddle long handle, ask for the Skeet Reese handle, that handle will fit a TE, and any Toro. Bass Pro had a power handle that came with the Pete Mania reel about 3 years ago that had 2 slots in it and U could make it 105mm long, it has a wood handle, that to will fit a TE or a Toro. Great movie " The Sandlot " |
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Location: Contrarian Island | Pikemaster..ya know the U.S. was suppose to go Metric in the 1980s...but we haven't... mm's??? what the heck are those... just razzin ya... in any case this debate reminds of all the guys that resisted going to long rods but now are on every board telling everyone how great long rods are.... teheheheehehe. some will always be ahead of the curve, and some behind
TE power handle rox on the Winch...but if you don't believe me..fine, stick w the adequate stock handle... here you go....
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| I put power handles on my Revo's this year per Brad's advice. I think they will be very nice. One of the main reasons I started using Tekota's for some rods is the comfort of the handle.
I put the single paddle handle on my revo and then when comparing to the handle of my Tekota it was an easy thing to convince me to put the Shimano power handle on. The Revo single paddle handle is not the same as the handle Brad is talking about. I personally think it will make a huge difference in both comfort and reeling.
Jeff Anderson
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| big knobs give you more comfortable grip. (apples) long handles give you the mechanical advantage. (oranges) big knobs on long handles give you more grip plus mechanical advantage. (smoothie!) sheesh. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Can the gears and axles take it? |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I used mine all last season...probably put 100 hours on it, no issues. |
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| Will the TE power handle fit on an Abu Ambassaduer? |
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| Considering the revo handles are longer, couldn't I get one of those to put on my ambassaduer for increased power as compared to the regular abu power handle? |
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Location: Contrarian Island | yes you could. or you could get an even longer one and increase power, comfort, and efficiency.... |
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| i like the luna power handles. i have the new 300ej and that powerhandle is nice. they both seem longer and oversized knobs. |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | Great info on which powerhandles fit the posts of other brands. No doubt, the Shimano TE powerhandle is top notch in quality. I realize many have moved away from the Diawa Luna due to the anit-reverse issues, however has anyone found a good Power Handle that fits these? Are the Diawa Power Handles any good? Sure, I can look/experiment on my own... but if someone here has already done it... please share what you learned to save me time and $$$$. A quick internet search indicates that the Trinidad 12 powerhandle will fit the Luna 300 (with the shimano washer and nut). I also found this photo of a Shimano Tekota500 Power Handle on a Luna 300. Looks like a nice option. Anyone using these that offer some first-hand experience? Thanks.
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| I'd like to know what BNelson uses the winch for. Maybe you're cranking on double 13's with the power handle on a slow geared reel? I'm asking seriously, though, because I'm in the market for a new reel. Thanks. |
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Location: Northwest Wisconsin | I have two lunas and one of them has a luna power handle on it. I have no complaints at all. I will be getting another power handle for the other reel. It makes a big difference. Hope this helps. |
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Location: midwest | I ran Tekota power handles on Diawa Lunas for a couple years. I would look at getting them machined out so you gan a couple of threads with the retention nut and put a little blue removable locktite on the mainshaft while installing the handle and cap. I have created slop in bith tekota and trinidad handles that were not machined out so you gain extra threads, especailly when ripping big minnow bait and such. |
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Location: Ontario | Brad how'd you modify the Shimano handle to get it onto the Winch, or did it even need any modifying? Sick lookin set-up. Not a bad boat either  What's a TE handle go for from Shimano direct? Do any retailers down there carry them? I' was going to put a 7000c1 handle+knob on mine. That handle feels good despite being on a pretty gutless reel. I'll have to lay them out and look but was also thinking about trying the 7000ci handle on my calcutta 700. I've got 4 dead 7000ci to lop the handles off if I can find a way to get them onto the better reels. Funny, because the 7000ci handle won't fit onto the older and better push button 7000c3s. I have access to presicion machining equipment if that's what's needed. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | no mod needed...I think they are like 45 bucks? this guy might have one...
http://www.davesreelservice.com/ |
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| Anyone got info on what handles will fit on a saltist 20ha other than the stock power handle? |
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Location: Ludington, MI | Just finished a week of testing a huge Daiwa handle on a Revo. Worked great. Unfortunately, I have no idea what model it is, only that it's large, kind of black stainless looking and not from a Luna. Anyway, handled the heavy bladed 10s like a champ. Unfortunately, all the bites in Iron Co. came on smaller spinners and spinnerbaits. What a tough week. 3 skis. |
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Location: Ludington, MI | Buddy said it's off a Sealine reel. Very cool handle. |
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