How does stealth leader co. do that?
bobber down
Posted 4/14/2011 6:55 PM (#493015)
Subject: How does stealth leader co. do that?


I have not used or even seen up close a stealth musky fluoro leader. My understanding is that there is a nail not followed by a crimp. Based on my understanding and experience building leaders and rigs, I assume that one of the reasons there is a crimp is to keep the knot from slipping all the way to the end of the line. For example, if you were to catcha big fish, the crimp keeps the knot from slipping down tight on the hook or lure eye. I have made some leaders using this technique, and even when glued and tag end crimped, the knot still slides down the line when put under pressue. I am I doing something wrong?


Guest
Posted 4/14/2011 9:03 PM (#493042 - in reply to #493015)
Subject: RE: How does stealth leader co. do that?


I'm not looking to reproduce a stealth leader. I am working on a a custom live bait rig. If anyone can tell me how they keep the knot from slipping, I would very much appreciate it.
Zib
Posted 4/14/2011 9:04 PM (#493043 - in reply to #493015)
Subject: RE: How does stealth leader co. do that?





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Location: Detroit River
The knot on the Stealth leaders doesn't look like a nail knot to me.

I use Lee Tauchen's Fluorocarbon Leader Knot & haven't had any issues with it.

http://leetauchen.com/lees_leader_knot.pdf
Guest
Posted 4/14/2011 9:13 PM (#493045 - in reply to #493015)
Subject: RE: How does stealth leader co. do that?


Thanks Zip. I notice by looking at the finished product pic that the knot is slid all the way down to the snap. I was trying to avoid that. My vision was to have small loop on each end of the leader where the swivel and snap hook on. Maybe I just need to forget the loop and pull the know all the way down.
curleytail
Posted 4/15/2011 12:43 AM (#493057 - in reply to #493015)
Subject: RE: How does stealth leader co. do that?




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Location: Hayward, WI
I'm not sure what knot Stealth uses, but I have been making my own leaders using the Lee Tauchen knot and a crimp on each tag. From my testing as I was building them, the knot only will slide down tight without too much steady pressure. A single crimp will also slide pretty easy. A knot and crimp will take more pressure, but still slide down.

The difference is that it is pretty easy to pull 70+ pounds when testing your leader on a bench with a vice. You'll never put that much weight on the leader when fishing.

String a rod up with your line and leader, and hook it to a 70lb dumbell and try to pick it up. Heck, hook it to a 20 pounder and try to pick it up with the rod. I think you'll see what I mean. Try not to break your rod...

Hope this helps - good luck!

Tucker
Basschamp167
Posted 4/15/2011 7:29 PM (#493229 - in reply to #493015)
Subject: Re: How does stealth leader co. do that?




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I use a Uni-knot on all of my leaders, i arrange the knot to form about a 1/4" loop and then i tighten the tag end with pliers, very tight. I haven't had the knot slip down to the split ring/swivel yet.
Esoxonthefly421
Posted 4/15/2011 8:21 PM (#493241 - in reply to #493015)
Subject: Re: How does stealth leader co. do that?




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Location: SW MI
+1 on the Tauchen knot. Can be a pain to tie on 130# but it's strong
MuskyLureFreak
Posted 4/15/2011 8:37 PM (#493246 - in reply to #493229)
Subject: Re: How does stealth leader co. do that?




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Basschamp167 - 4/15/2011 7:29 PM

I use a Uni-knot on all of my leader.


+1 uni knot.