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| I don't want to start too much controversy, but what are some baits made exclusively in the US? Is there even such a thing since most of the components are made overseas? |
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Location: MN | Shack attack and drifter tackle come to mind. |
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Location: sun prairie,wi | tylers basement creations baits....are all made in the usa...
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Location: Land of the Musky | Suick is the KING! Love your Suick and it will love you back
My 16" and 17"Grunts are 100% made in the USA. |
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| Muskie Train all hand made and painted in Ohio. Spankys, Big Joes and Suick in Wisconsin
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madisonmuskyguide.com |
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| I believe Eagle Claw hooks are still made in the USA? If so, WoodBridge Bay Tackle’s baits are completely made in the USA. They were designed, prototyped, molds made, parts injection molded, custom hand painted, hooked with Wolverine Split rings, and packaging all done in the good ol’ USA. We make the MDR Chopper that we’re in the process of introducing and the Molly Bait that we’ll be making available again soon. Mike |
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Location: Bemidji | Big Games and Custom X |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | H2o Tackle
Moski Lures
Talonz Wooden Lure Co.
Ace Baits
St. Clair Lure Company
Ziggie Lures
Crazy Moon Bucktails
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Location: Freedom, WI | As far as components you can still get all made in the USA for the most part. Eagle claw hooks, HEB screweyes, Worth and I think Wolverine split rings, paint is easy, Epoxy coating - multiple brands, blades - Worth and Lakeland and eyes from Withchcraft. |
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Location: c.wis | Black river bait co. |
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Location: Ohio | Pearson Plugs |
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Location: MN | Musky Mayhem, not sure about all components though |
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Location: Wisconsin | Made in the USA, I am pretty sure all the components are as well.... |
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Location: MN | Good question
I use Mustad (made in China now) and Owner (made in Japan) hooks. I don't know where Hedron produces their flashabou. Some of the 3D eyes are from Thailand. Rest of the components on my spinnerbaits are made in USA. All work are done here in US. Should I say: Partially made in USA or made in USA (some imported components) or made from 75% of made in USA components I'm really confused |
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Location: VA | How bout MEPPS?? |
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| I believe American Hardwood Lures are USA made |
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Location: where the fish are... | If im not mistaken Red October Tubes are made here in the USA. Good baits too. |
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| In regards to Mepps I believe some of the tails are tied in the Dominican Replublic or one of those island countries down there. |
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Location: Appleton,WI | All of rubberhairy tackles baits and materials are all 100% U.S.A. made. |
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Location: Lake of The Woods | Cedar creek |
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| reelman - 3/23/2011 12:03 AM
In regards to Mepps I believe some of the tails are tied in the Dominican Replublic or one of those island countries down there.
Actually, I believe all of the tails are tied in the factory OR by little old women at home working for Mepps. I know for a fact most of their brass lure components are made in Germany. Everything is assembled in Antigo, WI though. |
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Location: Detroit River | Propster - 3/22/2011 10:31 PM
Musky Mayhem, not sure about all components though
I had heard about a year ago that Musky Mayhem products are now made in China. I looked on the packaging of the Cowgirls at Cabelas & it didn't state where they were made. |
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Location: On my favorite lake! | Cobbs |
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| RJ Lures are American (yooper) made!! |
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Location: South-Central VA | All Tuscarora Tackle lures are made in the good old USA (Pennsylvania).
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| Bondy Baits are poured in Canada, with all the parts from the US, including the packaging. No overseas production. |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | Zib - 3/23/2011 8:19 AM Propster - 3/22/2011 10:31 PM Musky Mayhem, not sure about all components though I had heard about a year ago that Musky Mayhem products are now made in China. I looked on the packaging of the Cowgirls at Cabelas & it didn't state where they were made. +1 I heard something similar last summer. I do not know if there's any truth to it but they do not disclose on their packaging where the product is manufactured. Generally speaking (of all products these days), if they aren't proud of it being made and manufactured in the USA... then chances are, it's made somewhere overseas. |
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Location: W-PA | A few PA baits
Legend Lures
Wiley Lures
Leo Lures
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Guest - 3/23/2011 1:32 PM
Bondy Baits are poured in Canada, with all the parts from the US, including the packaging. No overseas production.
I listed Bondy Baits first, but pulled it off. It's American, (North American) but struggled with keeping it, since the thread said USA. Awesome bait, nonetheless, and Jon is terrific to deal with. |
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Location: Musky Country | Musky Mayhem Tackle
Made in the USA |
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| Sledgehammer Lures
New Ace Hammerglides
Bodies made in Chicago, Paint by Cordell, Split Rings by Worth, Hooks by Eagle Claw and the box is made in the US too! |
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| Geez, I didn't even think about packaging. I'm glad to see there are still some things made in the US. I'd like to buy some stuff that is exclusively made here, not to discredit any manufacturers that make products outside of the country |
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Location: Germantown, WI | According to their website, all of Drifter Tackle's products are made by Drifter in the USA. The have a manufacturing plant in Toledo, OH. |
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Location: MN | Still is not clear to me: If some of the components are made outside of USA, but all the work are done in USA, Should the final product be considered as made in USA or what will be the best definition for such scenario ? |
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| I would say no. I'd consider those Assembled in USA. |
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Location: MN | catchandrelease I don't agree with "assembled in USA"
I do all work here in USA from scratch: melt lead, make my own heads, paint and clear coat them, tied my own custom skirts, etc. Basically, I do full production cycle and only few of the used components are made somewhere else. It seems to me it's just more then assembling.
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Location: Land of the Musky | psv, From my research on the subject a "widget" has to have "all or substantially all" of its components made in the USA and be assembled in the USA to carry that designation. Funny though as the FTC does not define the % needed to qualify. Sometimes you will see "Assembled in the USA" and most likely what that means is that parts were imported into the USA and final assembly here. In the past I knew of a few companies that actually import lures and then repackage in the USA. Over the last few years I have seen those companies put Made In China on the labels now. The FTC can levy heavy fines that woudl easily put a musky lure company out of business so I think most follow the rules today.
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Location: MN | Tackle Industries - 3/24/2011 5:04 PM psv, From my research on the subject a "widget" has to have "all or substantially all" of its components made in the USA and be assembled in the USA to carry that designation. Funny though as the FTC does not define the % needed to qualify. James, Thank you for your input. This is exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Where is the deadline between made in USA, assembled in USA, made in USA (some imported components) ???
I use Mustad as a main hook and some of the 3D eyes from Thailand. They simply are the best match (I did try a lot of staff before I stick with those 2) for my spinnerbaits. Rest of the components are from well known USA companies. Can I identify my product as Made i USA ? I even more confused now :))))
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| PSV In my opinion yes you qualify and fall into the “substantially all” category. It’s nearly impossible to claim something is 100% made here if you look deep enough. For example, if you look a little further into what I do you’ll find that the design software is from a French company, the computer used for design is a Dell with components from all over the world, the CNC machine for prototyping and mold-making is German, the molding press is Japanese, the ABS plastic is made here but with chemicals from throughout the world. The equipment and supplies used for painting are a mixed bag as well. Then I drive my American car (ahem…) to drop off the baits for shipping. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | I would agree with “substantially all” for you too psv. To me its more of an ethics question. If you can look at what you buy and its 80%+ COGS based on items made in the USA then you should not worry too much. I have heard of products with only 60% of the components made in the USA and they still can designate made in the USA but IMO that is getting pretty bad. The Made in the USA designation should be an honored stamp and respected. Fine if you want to make items out of the country but IMO props need to be given for those who keep the production here and can keep their business profitable. |
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| My Ford is made in the USA from Mexican parts. |
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Location: MN | Mike, James, catchandrelease
Thank you for your comments. I appreciate it |
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| "Made in USA" Great thread! I try to buy as much as I can Made in the USA and Canada too. North American Made? |
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Location: Denmark | I would like to ad Spanky baits, and Jeff Boggs soft plastic to the list. |
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Location: Sw Pennsylvania | Grandmas, baker baits, b&m crankbaits, Mr. Toothy lures, tuff shads and musky train lures just to add a few more. |
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Rad Dog Lures, Wade's Wobblers, Mayhem Lures, Red October, Suick, Fudally (Reef Hawg), Lee Lures, Windel's (Harasser bucktails), Drifter, ERC, Mouldy's,
Moore's Lures, Glittertail, Shumway Lures.
I'm sure there are many more, more were mentioned. I tend to only buy muskie lures made in USA and have some from all of above.
JS
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Location: nappanee IN | www.hoosierhandmademuskybaits.com right here in indiana, awesome baits. made by a hoosier, can't be more american than that!! |
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Location: La Crosse, WI | Custom Spinners Unlimited bucktails and arms are all made in USA with nearly every part also being made here in IL, WI, or MN. Even most of my swimbaits I sell are made in CA. |
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Location: Mn | Muskie Solutions - Twisted Sucker |
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Location: Poca, West Virginia | West Virginia Baits : Amma Bamma, Cobb, Big Chimney, Crane and there are many others in West Virginia who make baits. |
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| Avet reels (look at that a reel made in America) and most of the St. Croix rods. |
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| Mantas are made in the USA.So are Super Slayer lures.
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| Slammers are all made im the usa including the plastic molding |
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| concern the musky lures i think it's safe to say more than 80% of them are made in usa,for bass lures it's probably 20% such a big contrast.anyway usa don't mean better lure.look at the musky innovation co for example they made good lure that catch almost every giant year after year........ |
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Location: Denmark | Mysky Innovations new breed of Bulldawgs, are now made in the USA |
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| i think you don't get the point....... |
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| Madmanmusky - 3/23/2011 5:42 PM
Musky Mayhem Tackle
Made in the USA
Heard their skirts are tied in Haiti and then shipped to the USA. Does that still count as made in the USA. Maybe so since skirts are a small part of the entire lure? |
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Location: Denmark | muskysuperpro - 8/24/2012 5:26 AM
i think you don't get the point.......
The MI Buldawgs are now being poured in the US, and has been redesigned. |
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| Killerbug - 8/25/2012 2:41 AM
muskysuperpro - 8/24/2012 5:26 AM
i think you don't get the point.......
The MI Buldawgs are now being poured in the US, and has been redesigned.
Is this correct? The musky innovations bull dawgs are being poured in the US now? |
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| Yes that is correct. I have been using the new ones the plastic is very strong and they swim great.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com |
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| I'm all for supporting American's by buying American. However, in this instance if you are buying from a US based company (Is there a NON US based Musky lure maker besides maybe Salmo?) that is all that matters. Why? Because a small lure making business isn't going to "create" jobs.
If you support the business of I would imagine lots of bait builders you are supported them, and maybe 1 or 2 other people.
Maybe I'm off base here. If so say so. I'm kinda curious. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | smallmouth/musky - 8/25/2012 9:19 AM
I'm all for supporting American's by buying American. However, in this instance if you are buying from a US based company (Is there a NON US based Musky lure maker besides maybe Salmo?) that is all that matters. Why? Because a small lure making business isn't going to "create" jobs.
If you support the business of I would imagine lots of bait builders you are supported them, and maybe 1 or 2 other people.
Maybe I'm off base here. If so say so. I'm kinda curious.
You have a good point but there is also a mix. A company like St Croix is 90% (a guess) made in the USA and they support a lot of jobs here too. Then you have a company like Rapala who makes most of their tackle overseas BUT they support a lot of jobs here through sales, marketing, shipping/warehouse/support staff, etc. Last you have the small tackle companies who make their stuff in house or part in house and part overseas who pretty much are a 1 or 2 man show and will never get any bigger no matter what. Basically I have made a rule where I will grow my business until I need to hire someone then I will back off a little. Just one employee is a real tax pain and you get dingged big time for it by our lovely government. I do have a lot of people in the USA who I work with and they make money off of my business but they are all consultants, contracted or tollers for me. Makes it much easier to run a business and my small company can still support a lot of people. |
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Location: Oregon | Bikini Bait Company, 100% made in the USA by my son and I.
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Location: Yahara River Chain | RiverMan - 8/25/2012 11:21 PM
Bikini Bait Company, 100% made in the USA by my son and I.
Jed
You mean the hooks, wire, screw eyes, split rings and any other component is all US made? |
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Location: lansing, il | Leaders from Stealth Tackle are still built one at a time in the USA as they have been from day 1. Our quality components and materials come from various different countries. A few of the distributors we go thru have large facilities in the US that employ quite a few US workers. |
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| My Toyota truck is the most "American made" vehicle, in America, when you look at all the parts!! I know all of you "American made" drivers, don't want to hear it, but it's true. It's no more foreign, than a Chevy.
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| Everyhing about my Trueglide's are made right here in Mn. With the exception of the custom topcoat, made in California.
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| gordonmann69 - 8/24/2012 8:57 PM Madmanmusky - 3/23/2011 5:42 PM
Musky Mayhem Tackle Made in the USA Heard their skirts are tied in Haiti and then shipped to the USA. Does that still count as made in the USA. Maybe so since skirts are a small part of the entire lure?
gordonmann69, You heard worng. Ive been in Brad and Carries shop, they are all tied right here in the good ole U.S.A.!!!!
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| gordonmann69 - 8/24/2012 8:57 PM
Madmanmusky - 3/23/2011 5:42 PM
Musky Mayhem Tackle
Made in the USA
Heard their skirts are tied in Haiti and then shipped to the USA. Does that still count as made in the USA. Maybe so since skirts are a small part of the entire lure?
yeah it's true |
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Location: c.wis | none of the flashabou/mylar type skirt material is made in america,theres factorys in china and india that print/cut the dressing. just guessing but im sure the plastisol i use, and the other companys use are not fully made in america, id say its safe to say that they are re packaged in usa. I strongly doubt MI is made in america- last i heard they go for 2$ a pop shipped to the us- start a new thread, assembled in america- |
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| Phantoms and Vipers are still made in the USA! |
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| Tony Spicker - 8/28/2012 10:22 PM
gordonmann69 - 8/24/2012 8:57 PM Madmanmusky - 3/23/2011 5:42 PM
Musky Mayhem Tackle Made in the USA Heard their skirts are tied in Haiti and then shipped to the USA. Does that still count as made in the USA. Maybe so since skirts are a small part of the entire lure? gordonmann69, You heard worng. Ive been in Brad and Carries shop, they are all tied right here in the good ole U.S.A.!!!!
Sorry, was not trying to get into it, just informing. I heard this from a guy who knows the Hedron guy personally and I guess they make a lot of Cowgirls for Musky Mayhem for the retail stores.. Think he said many of teh skirts are tied in Haiti. Maybe wrong. everything comes from oil anyway  |
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Location: Not where I want to be! | Slammers, Pewaukee Wi. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Sorry,........ but you guys that are driving Foreign Car/Trucks are not driving American vehicles,....All of the foreign vehicles made in this country still take the profits back to their home country. Japan,Germany,Korea,Italy, etc.
I think I 'm going thru a mid life crises because I have an urge to buy a car that can go 160+mph,....... I'm thinking a vintage Vette or perhaps a Shelby/Cobra , Maybe a Viper,... Although I can see myself in a 180mph. Lotus,...But not at $250,000.00
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | If you go back in history, our lineage for most of us here comes from overseas.
It's a global economy.
It's not going to change now.
Guess what country is number one on Minnesota's export list? |
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| sworrall - 9/1/2012 12:07 PM
If you go back in history, our lineage for most of us here comes from overseas.
It's a global economy.
It's not going to change now.
Guess what country is number one on Minnesota's export list?
China? |
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| the major thing that everybody seems to don't want to admit is all the loan to the usa came from china.
like it or not usa owe something like 2 & 1/2 trillion!
so if no one buy some china products,guess who is going to collapse? |
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| baits are cheap look at your truck, car , boat motor,buy american your job depends on it. bad thig to say but tru look how many tv's radio,s are made in the usa compaired to the 60,s and 70,s |
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Location: Minnesota | Im guilty i bought a skeeter with a Yamaha F 150. Yamaha makes a great motor. i used my dads boat for years he had a 40 hp Mercury it was in the shop more then on the water so when i bought my first boat i went with Yamaha never had a problem so when i bought my next boat bought Yamaha again. |
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| RP Customs all made in central wisconsin , by me  |
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| I think that 99% of the lures made in The Basement are American Made.
Did anyone say Fishall Lures by Mike King? |
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Location: Excelsior, MN | Just Encase Boxes are "garage built" near Lake Minnetonka.
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| If musky mayhem baits where made in the USA with US components they would be proud of it and label as such.
Same with other baits. |
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Location: 15 miles east of Lake Kinkaid | Llungen lures are 100% made in the USA. We buy all of our components from US manufacturing companies and our baits are assembled in the US. |
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Location: On the River | Big Fork lures made in MN |
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| Everything could be made in the USA, but the extra cost would be passed onto us, the consumer, and the US isn't nearly as good at certain things as other countries. Trade allows us to specialize in one thing and benefit from other people's specialties.
Swiss gearing (Abu Garcia)
Japanese quality control (Lucky Craft and Shimano)
Korean electronics (Samsung)
That said, with musky lures if I look at the back of the packaging and see a US mailing address I know that my purchase is supporting someone who loves this hobby as much as I do and took their time to give me that product, regardless of where it's made. |
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