Building Double Cowgirls, Showgirls,etc.
bigroo
Posted 3/2/2011 5:33 PM (#484755)
Subject: Building Double Cowgirls, Showgirls,etc.





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Location: Poca, West Virginia
I would like to build some inline spinners like the Musky Mahem models. Are there any books, DVDs or websites on this subject. I can't afford 25.00 to 27.00 per lure.
fishwisconsin3
Posted 3/2/2011 8:42 PM (#484798 - in reply to #484755)
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Posts: 104


Location: Hudson, WI

Here is a good video from youtube.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjCxipy6WD0 

 

Muddy41
Posted 3/2/2011 9:41 PM (#484815 - in reply to #484798)
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Location: Richfield, MN
Also do a search you will find some good info.

Sit tight as well there are some great people that will see this posting and will be more than willing to help you I am sure of that.

One thing that is great about this site is that there are always people willing to go out of there way to help others out.

So good luck. Make sure to post up some pics of your fist batches of lures!!!!!

Mike
Pal
Posted 3/3/2011 5:57 AM (#484845 - in reply to #484815)
Subject: RE: Building Double Cowgirls, Showgirls,etc.




Posts: 676


Location: Twin Cities, MN
Download a catalog from Moores Lures

in general, here is what you need as there are start up costs involved

The Flashabou and the blades are your highest costs for making them.

Clevices
Wire shafts
Hooks
Split Rings
Shrink Tube
Sinkers
Flashabou skirts on coil - guys will make them for you, do a search
Beads
Lure Bodies
Blades
Spacers
Knipex round nose
Needlenose pliers

Let me know if you have questions I can help with

Pal
riverrat09
Posted 3/3/2011 5:59 PM (#484964 - in reply to #484755)
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Location: Missouri
I'm interested in how to make them as well. I'm curious to see what everyone has to say.
Pal
Posted 3/4/2011 12:23 PM (#485092 - in reply to #484964)
Subject: Re: Building Double Cowgirls, Showgirls,etc.




Posts: 676


Location: Twin Cities, MN
Here is some more details I put together. Hopefully this helps.

If you want a link for how to make the wraps yourself for the wire shafts, let me know, I found a really nice jewelry link that essentially uses the same technique.

There are lots of suppliers to choose from for components.

Components

Blades - Magnum 8-12’s, or standard fluted 7 – 9, Colorado, Indiana (gauge varies)
Beads - preference is yours, I tend to use the hollow large diameter 5/16 or 1/4
Clevises - # 6
Wire shafts - .51 or preference
Hooks - 5 – 8 your preference
Split Rings - # 7 ( lots of choices here for type)
Shrink Tube – 3/8 or ¼ for smaller hooks
Sinkers - ¼ through 5/8 – your weight preference
Lure Bodies - again your preference, I usually use # 69
Spacers - page 19 of Moore’s catalog
Flashabou skirts on coil – purchase premade or make your own

If you make your own, you will need Flashabou (magnum used most and saltwater), bobbin, thread (I have been using upholstery thread which is nice and thick), coils (I cut up a brake throttle cable from a lawnmower), glue and a fly tying vise.


Knipex round nose pliers – might need to special order these
Needle nose pliers – I got the nice ones with blue handles from Northern
Wire Cutters - I got the nice ones with blue handles from Northern
Split Ring Pliers – again lots of choices


For Silicon tails you will also need

Skirt collars or Lure/Skirt Bodies
Premade silicone skirts unless you want to make your own – these vary quite a bit by strand count also so be careful
eric001
Posted 3/4/2011 12:53 PM (#485099 - in reply to #484755)
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Location: c.wis
make enough for your self, and sell the rest on craigslist to pay for the ones you keep. you can build them for 8.00 or so each. lurepartsonline is a good place to start if your not making 20+ bait. dont get deep cut blades, they turn for crap, its fun-welcome to your newest expensive hobby
Pal
Posted 3/4/2011 12:57 PM (#485100 - in reply to #485099)
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Posts: 676


Location: Twin Cities, MN
Yes,

Blades alone for a double ten will be about 3.00 - 5.00 per pair

Flashabou will run about $ 6.00 to make one double tail depending on how thick you want it.

Blake
Posted 3/4/2011 4:41 PM (#485143 - in reply to #484755)
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Posts: 55


Location: Coon Rapids, MN
For making the skirts you can also by the cheap tinsel around the holiday season. There normally isn't as may colors to choose from but it can help cut down on the cost. Mix the cheap stuff in with the expensive stuff to get the look you want.
esoxfly
Posted 3/4/2011 4:56 PM (#485151 - in reply to #485143)
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Location: Kodiak, AK

Blake - 3/4/2011 5:41 PM For making the skirts you can also by the cheap tinsel around the holiday season. There normally isn't as may colors to choose from but it can help cut down on the cost. Mix the cheap stuff in with the expensive stuff to get the look you want.

 I'll just add that it is not the same as proper Flashabou.  It's far more brittle and will break easily.  It will tie up fine and look good, but it will sooner or later break and come apart depending on your use.  Years ago before I started tying for customers I went nuts one Christmas and bought a boatload of that stuff for use on flies.  Now I have bags and bags and bags of it.  If anyone wants it, let me know.

Zib
Posted 3/4/2011 6:13 PM (#485170 - in reply to #485143)
Subject: Re: Building Double Cowgirls, Showgirls,etc.





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Location: Detroit River
Blake - 3/4/2011 5:41 PM

For making the skirts you can also by the cheap tinsel around the holiday season. There normally isn't as may colors to choose from but it can help cut down on the cost. Mix the cheap stuff in with the expensive stuff to get the look you want.


Like Esoxfly stated, that stuff is NOT anything like real flashabou. That stuff will break very easy & the color will come off of it. I tried some of it from the craft store & it doesn't hold up. Buy the saltwater flashabou.
esoxfly
Posted 3/5/2011 12:54 AM (#485201 - in reply to #484755)
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Location: Kodiak, AK
Zib, now we're agreeing over here too?!?!
Zib
Posted 3/5/2011 9:45 AM (#485213 - in reply to #485201)
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Location: Detroit River
esoxfly - 3/5/2011 1:54 AM

Zib, now we're agreeing over here too?!?!


It must be a coincidence. Stop spreading rumors.
willeysbucktails
Posted 3/5/2011 9:58 AM (#485214 - in reply to #485213)
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Posts: 191


Location: WV
pretied tails
http://lurepartsonline.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=2106
KSauers
Posted 3/5/2011 9:12 PM (#485276 - in reply to #484755)
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There are other 10's out there that are just as good and not near the price . You don't have to make your own unless you really want to.
bigroo
Posted 3/6/2011 7:45 AM (#485307 - in reply to #485276)
Subject: Re: Building Double Cowgirls, Showgirls,etc.





Posts: 60


Location: Poca, West Virginia
Just thought I would like to try making a few for me and a few friends. I've built several rods over the years so I just wanted to try this too. The wire baits I think I can do because I'm not a artist so I'm not capable of painting the other styles of baits. I live in West Virginia where the Crane and Amma Bammas are made and I don't have that kind of talent. Thought it might save a few bucks in this money pit called musky fishing. LOL I've been in touch with Dick Moore of Moores Lures and he has been very helpful in getting me started. I hope to get started soon.

Edited by bigroo 3/6/2011 7:47 AM
KSauers
Posted 3/6/2011 9:25 AM (#485319 - in reply to #484755)
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Looking forward to seeing the results.
suskymusky50
Posted 3/9/2011 1:38 AM (#485973 - in reply to #484755)
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Since you live in west virginia, you should contact jimmy willison for your tails. His prices are good and the quality of his work is top notch. If interested pm me and I'll get you his info.
blackriver
Posted 3/9/2011 7:59 AM (#485994 - in reply to #484755)
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I would 2nd Jimmy Willison! He has an awesome selection of stock colors but will basically do whatever colors you want. Great guy to work with !! I belive he lives over by you also.
bigroo
Posted 3/9/2011 2:54 PM (#486073 - in reply to #485994)
Subject: Re: Building Double Cowgirls, Showgirls,etc.





Posts: 60


Location: Poca, West Virginia
Thanks for the info guys.
mbani
Posted 3/10/2011 2:49 AM (#486173 - in reply to #486073)
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I just started making by own tails last year and it really became a great winter hobby. I have to warn you, though, you may not save that much money when all is said and done. If you're anything like me, you'll keep making baits and want to have all components on hand in case a bait needs repair or you think of a new color.

As previously stated, you're looking at $4-$8 for blades and $6-10 worth of flashabou on any given bait. You're already into the $10-$18 dollar range without any of the other components.

Word of caution: It is very addicting to catch fish on your baits!
MACONE
Posted 3/10/2011 10:48 AM (#486218 - in reply to #484755)
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Location: Xenia, Ohio
I like that Addiction, that a good addiction !!!!!
bigroo
Posted 3/10/2011 8:37 PM (#486350 - in reply to #484755)
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Posts: 60


Location: Poca, West Virginia
Addiction,Good

Edited by bigroo 3/10/2011 8:38 PM
gunnr
Posted 3/11/2011 9:00 AM (#486406 - in reply to #486350)
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Just got this one done. #13 single colorado, black holo flashabou, #7 treble, and a #7 siwash on the back with a 6 inch shaker trailer.


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MuskieMike
Posted 3/11/2011 11:44 AM (#486447 - in reply to #484755)
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Location: Des Moines IA
I'm have a really tough time finding a large selection of .040 blades? Where do the big guys get their blades? Stamina, and Moore's only have a couple of colors available?
BALDY
Posted 3/11/2011 12:55 PM (#486463 - in reply to #486447)
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MuskieMike - 3/11/2011 11:44 AM I'm have a really tough time finding a large selection of .040 blades? Where do the big guys get their blades? Stamina, and Moore's only have a couple of colors available?


Lakeland
Muskiemetal
Posted 3/11/2011 2:28 PM (#486483 - in reply to #486463)
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Posts: 676


Location: Wisconsin
I get great service from Lakeland. You need to try to get your orders over 100 bucks to avoid some fees, but they will take small orders. (line fees apply as well).
psv
Posted 3/11/2011 3:13 PM (#486508 - in reply to #486483)
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Posts: 469


Location: MN

Muskiemetal - 3/11/2011 3:28 PM I get great service from Lakeland. You need to try to get your orders over 100 bucks to avoid some fees, but they will take small orders. (line fees apply as well).

 10% tax if you don't have Tax ID and + 1$ per each line if you order less then minimum quantity. Great customers service and reasonable shipping price.

Muskiemetal
Posted 3/11/2011 3:18 PM (#486511 - in reply to #484755)
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Posts: 676


Location: Wisconsin
Sorry forgot that....yes, if you don't have a 637. Actually the $1 per line, if you buy a 10's, it is pretty reasonable compared to what some people are charging for blades. Moore's Lures is another one that is very good customer service and good pricing. Sometimes I will buy from Dick if I need something faster or if Lakeland is out of stock or if I have a custom request for a couple of lures.
fishwisconsin3
Posted 3/23/2011 10:37 AM (#488443 - in reply to #484755)
Subject: RE: Building Double Cowgirls, Showgirls,etc.





Posts: 104


Location: Hudson, WI
What size coil is used for tying the flashabou?
Pal
Posted 3/25/2011 6:29 PM (#488927 - in reply to #488443)
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Posts: 676


Location: Twin Cities, MN
I am not sure what size it is, but go to Fleet Farm and track down a throttle cable for a lawn mower. Pull out the inside, and and you have about 4 feet of what you are looking for. I usually cut mine about 3/4 to an inch long.

Pal
PostFrontal
Posted 3/26/2011 12:17 PM (#489051 - in reply to #484755)
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Posts: 60


Location: Lake Minnetonka
Random question. How many strands in a Hank?
willeysbucktails
Posted 3/26/2011 6:15 PM (#489112 - in reply to #489051)
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Posts: 191


Location: WV
put 450 on a tie