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| who is the best painter on muskiesfirst...let me know your votes...
steve
muskyfix
tylers basement creations
stan durst
fat fingers
zach2626
Mullhead
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| I would say they are all very talented. |
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| tigger 
but its all personal opinion. there are a ton of amazing painters on here. |
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| If you look at this site at all you can see they are all very talented. Some have been painting longer than others. To watch the progress of the new painter is just as cool as watching bowhunter wrap snakeskin on a lure. That question you asked is like asking a parent which one of their kids they like better. |
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Location: South-Central PA | I would say that everyone on that list is very talented and you have to put Tigger on that list!
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| Then who is the most afforable |
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Location: Richfield, MN | Are any of those on the list part of the Holland bunch. I know Derk is one heck of a artist for sure. THere are a few from the holland bunch that deserve mentioning as well.
As far as the best I would say they are all very good. Espeically when comparring them to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need to sort through some of the used lure I bought and see who is out there that needs work and will paint some for me before the season rolls around. |
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Location: neenah, wisconsin | count me in for one vote.....fred pearson....any pattern you want done....imo especially on his baits anyone of those also....
Edited by muskie54956 1/15/2011 10:42 PM
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| Guest - 1/15/2011 9:37 PM
who is the best painter on muskiesfirst...let me know your votes...
steve
muskyfix
tylers basement creations
stan durst
fat fingers
zach2626
Mullhead
muskyslayer96
newmuskyz
best painter must be fat finger or tigger
but if you want someone who paint the pathern that fish really like to bite go with stan
Edited by pepsiboy 1/15/2011 10:48 PM
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| Stan is a master at layering paints. His baits shine like nobody elses can imo. I am just an amateur so you guys can take me off that list. I look at some of these guy's paint jobs and just stare at them awestruck. Those guys overseas blow my mind and I get inspiration from lots of guys on here! I think that we as musky fisherman are enjoying the best looking baits that have ever been painted. These guys are that good! Fatfingers and Tigger paint the most realistic color schemes I have seen and maybe one day.... but until then I just enjoy looking and dreaming! |
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Location: VA | I can't say who'd be the best or who'd be the cheapest, some of the work I see here is nothing short of amazing......but I CAN say that newmuskyz is very affordable and did a GREAT job on my lures if that matters any.
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| DR, thanks for the props...cant wait to see you stick some on those baits..as far as who's the best, well- all have different styles. Picasso is the only one who paints like Picasso. John Snow paints his baits different than i do, mullhead paints his different than Zach2626...but they all kick a$$ in their own way. Fred Pearson is also one of the greats. I am proud to say that i now own some baits from him and they are awesome. I recently recieved 4 Baker shads built by Zach, and his talent and craftmanship are like no other. cant wait to troll those babies. Mullhead shot a triple D for me last weekend and the color is nothing short of amazing. I enjoy everyones work, and I love catching fish on my paint patterns. When it comes down to it thats who's opinion we need to be asking- that fat chick with sharp teeth that lives in your favorite lake! thats all i can say, keep the pics of new baits on here so we can all enjoy them! By the way- never forget Jack Cobb, he may as well be the pioneer of half the bait builders in the US, got to give him credit. |
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| Derkbait is the best.....kodiak has some cool stuff |
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Location: manchester,england | From the states tigger,fatfingers,trueglide,danczyk and Jerry Podmarsky all make great looking baits but apart from these i'd have to say from what i've seen the dutch and scandanavians have taken there finish's to another level |
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| Thanks for calling my name in this Topic!!! It gives me a boost to try things even better!!!!!
And as they say it is verry Personal... Me, i like all the artist from that list, all with different skils...
I will post some new baits soon...
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| markb - 1/16/2011 4:18 PM
From the states tigger,fatfingers,trueglide,danczyk and Jerry Podmarsky all make great looking baits but apart from these i'd have to say from what i've seen the dutch and scandanavians have taken there finish's to another level
feel free to post names or any link |
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Location: midwest | My favorite painter from this forum would have to be "Uptown". Some other incredible work is out there from the Bass world like this: http://s639.photobucket.com/albums/uu120/BrockHiroshima/?albumview=... |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | haven't tried them all but dollar for dollar I'v e been very happy with everything I've gotten from tylersbasementcreations
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| The two best up and comers are Zach 2626 and Muskyfix. |
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| novak has some baits on ebay right now. ebay user name shadezone44. go to his feedback and look at some of his other work as well. |
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| Yes, Tim Novak is at the very top of the list. Fantastic Lure maker and painter. |
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Location: Oregon | Lots of good painters but Novak is doing some spectacular work right now.
Sometimes I wonder if our focus in the last couple years has moved too much toward realism and not enough on lure action. We all have lures that are missing half the paint and one eye and still consistenly catch fish. Every time I see a lure that has perfect scales, realistic fins, mouth, eyes, etc., I wonder how it runs. I have tested a hundred different glider shapes, maybe more, and very few run "really well". You can get almost any shape to glide but only a few will consistenly stay deep and work fast without problems. A good example being the Hellhound....simple paint jobs but spectacular action, wish I had developed it.
Jed
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| good point jed
for me even if the action is good,the ultra realistic lure simply dont produce vs a traditional ugly pathern.of course something that look 100% natural sound good to human eyes,but i think its not the case from a fish eye point of view
i think sometimes the problem came from ease of detection who knows,bait fish have not been created to be easily located.
strawberry,red &white,pikie,firetiger,black have duped tons of fish over the years and they will continue for a long time |
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| thru the years painting has pushed forward immensly. realism is eye candy, but to whom. after squirting for a few years contrast is second to the nu.1 thing action.. |
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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | Jed and others, Take a good look at Mike Richardsons new MDR CHopper. It will stay down and do it's job.
I don't feel like my name should be a part of the original post as I am not an artist like some of the great painters on here. But I do thanks the fellows for their kind comments. I am just a "blender"and I like to stick to the traditional style of painting ugly colors as I fully believe the same as Woodie in that the contrast is very important ( as well as a good working lure) and where on the lure the contrast is layered has a lot to do with it also. I try to make my patterns to get the fishes attention but have to "pretty" it up a little to get the fisherman interested in it too or the fish will never get to see it in the first place. I have a couple colors that are ugly as he77 that I use ,and people wouldn't look twice at them, but they are good producers. One, a Crane bait, was all but destroyed the first time it was used. That fish crushed it so I keep it in my collection to remind me that " ugly" does work.
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| This is a prime example of how the world of musky angling has changed. Bait makers are now grouped into different categories than bait painters, and artists are classified differently than craftsmen. The person who is the best painter in my opinion is not even on the list of best baitmaker. The people catching the most fish aren't buying baits because they are pretty. So, to each their own... |
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| Heck, it would be very informative to know the approximate percentege of muskies caught on natural/realistic patterns as apposed to so called ugly patterns by some of the guides and others with lots of time on the water.
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Location: Norway | RiverMan - 1/23/2011 7:27 PM Lots of good painters but Novak is doing some spectacular work right now. Sometimes I wonder if our focus in the last couple years has moved too much toward realism and not enough on lure action. We all have lures that are missing half the paint and one eye and still consistenly catch fish. Every time I see a lure that has perfect scales, realistic fins, mouth, eyes, etc., I wonder how it runs. I have tested a hundred different glider shapes, maybe more, and very few run "really well". You can get almost any shape to glide but only a few will consistenly stay deep and work fast without problems. A good example being the Hellhound....simple paint jobs but spectacular action, wish I had developed it. Jed IMHO your 8" Turmoil will outfish a hellhound any day. The only thing that I dont like with it, is the paintjob I did to it  I want that perch color back. Even tho I love watching natural paintjobs, and intricate details, I prefer old school style lures/paintjobs, like Jack Cobb, Mark Smith, Jim Wilson, Beaver, Durst (I think these are those baitmakers that frequent my inspiration folder the most). Michael
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | "This is a prime example of how the world of musky angling has changed. Bait makers are now grouped into different categories than bait painters, and artists are classified differently than craftsmen. The person who is the best painter in my opinion is not even on the list of best baitmaker. The people catching the most fish aren't buying baits because they are pretty. So, to each their own..."
This is an excellent point for all of us to remember. Beautiful baits that do not run & catch fish are wasted space in the boat. I have a couple baits with very little paint left on them...but they never leave my boat all summer...because they catch fish. I also have a beautiful painted bait that just got the clear coat touched up from last years battles.
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| Sometimes I wonder How often those baits that dont seem to produce are really thrown at peak times such as peak moon, low light, fronts etc. and on prime confidence spots. I know Im never trying out a new color or bait at those times but wouldnt that really give you honest feedback on the productivity of a new bait-color-action. That being said, it really is hard for me to experiment during these high percentage times and spots.
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | I hear that. I normally have on high percentage baits by the time the peak time comes around so am pretty confident in the lure selection. But unless I need to "produce" a fish I am 90% trying to a quality bait that has not caught a bunch. I want to see what the fish' reaction to the lure. I always want to add to my confidence baits. But you point is a good one, I do not do things the way others do for sure. |
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| Boomman - 1/24/2011 10:32 AM
Sometimes I wonder How often those baits that dont seem to produce are really thrown at peak times such as peak moon, low light, fronts etc. and on prime confidence spots. I know Im never trying out a new color or bait at those times but wouldnt that really give you honest feedback on the productivity of a new bait-color-action. That being said, it really is hard for me to experiment during these high percentage times and spots.
Pete
Pete Nice thing about guiding is just that I sometimes put on something new, clients always get the magic baits, but more often than not, The action I employ is well practiced and the reaction to the fish is what they want.. I try to teach the way it is to be used but hard to get it right off the bat.. Most fish respond to the action and Hughes of a color and or contrast.. Look at the amount of large fish caught on pounders and cowgirls, no gills or fins used.. But the nature of having a lure look realistic is a craft of art and appreciated by collectors. I am not sure why my name came up as well, I don't advertise painting but have for a few in need. I know one thing they have caught fish and to me that's the name of the game. John Snow and Keith Eldrup has my vote along with others.
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | Gotta share this...last year I had a guy out and we were heading into a peak period. I had a good fish located on rocks. I went into the box and brought out one of my favorite go to baits. It doesn't look like much, but this bait has really caught allot of fish. I put it on his rod. He had the look of both confidence & determination and did a nice back cast, a mighty forward cast but had forgotten to push the button on the reel! He slapped the water so hard I was panicked. Three cast later he plowed that same lure on a out of control bullet cast right into the rocks. I now have the bait on the wall of my shop...someday maybe! |
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| Jed,
im glad you raised this point. Its waht i wanted to get across all the time..i am like muskyfix, i dont advertise painting becasue i dont have time, but i do enjoy painting for a few and occasionally selling one or too. its cool to know somebody out there in wisconsin or MI is throwing a bait that this ole VA boy painted and a musky may be thinking of eating it right now. I once painted 9 inch hoosier in a shad color, i finished the bait and the whole time i never felt good about it. it just didnt look like what i had in my mind when i started..but, one sunny, windy day i managed to make myself put it on and make a cast. i liked the action it had, and the flash, and before it came boatside it was smashed like a fat kid on cake. since then i have caught countless fish on this bait and painted heaven knows how many in that color, which have also produced. painting is a hobby, not a competition, and although honored to be mentioned here in this post, it is pointless to say who is better or worse, cheap or expensive....and i do not deserve to be in the same discussion as snow and derkbait, bikini or novak. proud to say i own most of their baits and i like them all. I just painted two for a lurebuilder of high recognition, and when he ask me my reply was "it would be an honor..." i hope he catches one on my paint jobs- Lord knows i have on his!! enjoy...thanks guys! |
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| I have to agree with may of the guys that posted that they are all awesome painters and have their own style. As far as which ones are the best fish catchers only the fish can tell. I know of a couple lakes that I bass fished as a kid that the fish wouldn't touch anything fancy, but destroyed a simple blue top chrome bottom bait. Every fish is different and you never know, some like the natural colors and some like the circus clown paint scheme. Another guy that I haven't seen on the list yet is Rod Provost. I have a couple of his lures and they look so nice that I hang them on display because there was so much time put into that paint job that I can't bear to tear it up. Check out some of his lures. As far as just awesome looking paint I would say Rod and Tylers basement baits. I also have to say that the snake skin baits are amazing. I honestly don't know how you guys can bring yourselves to use them! |
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