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Glide Baits

Posted 12/5/2010 10:36 AM (#469045)
Subject: Glide Baits

Posts: 17

Ok Im new to this Muskie first site.. but not new to making big baits..such as swimbaits and topwater wake baits.. I see a lot of guy like to use glide baits for muskie. I will be the first to say I know nothing about them..so the challenge of making some interests me because I have never done it! They might suck like a new born baby after Im done but I will never know until I try. So I need advice from Muskie FISHERMAN.

What makes a great glide bait.. does it float?....Does it Sink?.....Is it lipless or gives you some lip! ... Bass guys don't fish glide baits.. unless your talking about walk baits but I don't think that is same thing..who knows maybe Im wrong.. In the South it's called a CRAPPY! in the North its called a CROPPY! TO GLIDE OR TO WALK.. That is the question.

Thanks for your input and let see what I can come up with all your help..

Posted 12/5/2010 4:37 PM (#469078 - in reply to #469045)
Subject: Re: Glide Baits

Posts: 532

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI5150troho

Not the greatest video. But IMO the hell hound is the best glide bait out there. They sink, with a body wobble, taps of the rod tip makes then swing side to side. The main thing here is that they "glide" under the water with direction change. So like a walk the dog top water only underwater.

Posted 12/6/2010 5:05 AM (#469180 - in reply to #469045)
Subject: Re: Glide Baits

Posts: 39

Search fore "weighting" and glider, this tread is good:

http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=38... &highlightmode=1#M285978

Oskar

Trophyhunter123

Posted 12/6/2010 9:10 AM (#469197 - in reply to #469045)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits

Posts: 12

Very interesting discussion and thanks for the link to previous posts. I am tempted to sacrifice one of my Rapala Subwalks to take an in depth look at how they have placed the weights. Obviously plastic is going to be more consistent in density so would be easier to produce consistent results. Will let you know what I find out. Pappy

Posted 12/6/2010 7:11 PM (#469265 - in reply to #469197)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits

Posts: 432

Location: mpls

Trophyhunter123 - 12/6/2010 9:10 AM

Very interesting discussion and thanks for the link to previous posts. I am tempted to sacrifice one of my Rapala Subwalks to take an in depth look at how they have placed the weights. Obviously plastic is going to be more consistent in density so would be easier to produce consistent results. Will let you know what I find out. Pappy

No offense intended,but your assumption about plastic being more consistent is somewhat incorrect.

Solid plastic is consistent for glide baits.

Hollow plastic gliders, on the other hand, suffer from inconsistent internal air density. Temp, barometric pressure, etc. all have an effect on hollow baits. The top Pro BASS guys understand this and use specific individual baits depending on conditions especially when fishing jerk baits.

Gliders are are finicky beast to get the weighting and balance correct. Sometimes small variables make BIG differences.

I will also add, don't confuse "easy to work" with good. A lot of guys post that so and so glider is the "best", not due it catching lots of fish. Simply due to it being easy to work. Not saying anything bad about any brand, just my experience that the devil is in the details.

Joe

Trophyhunter123

Posted 12/7/2010 3:32 PM (#469385 - in reply to #469265)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits

Posts: 12

uptown - 12/6/2010 8:11 PM

Trophyhunter123 - 12/6/2010 9:10 AM

Very interesting discussion and thanks for the link to previous posts. I am tempted to sacrifice one of my Rapala Subwalks to take an in depth look at how they have placed the weights. Obviously plastic is going to be more consistent in density so would be easier to produce consistent results. Will let you know what I find out. Pappy

No offense intended,but your assumption about plastic being more consistent is somewhat incorrect.

Solid plastic is consistent for glide baits.

Hollow plastic gliders, on the other hand, suffer from inconsistent internal air density. Temp, barometric pressure, etc. all have an effect on hollow baits. The top Pro BASS guys understand this and use specific individual baits depending on conditions especially when fishing jerk baits.

Gliders are are finicky beast to get the weighting and balance correct. Sometimes small variables make BIG differences.

I will also add, don't confuse "easy to work" with good. A lot of guys post that so and so glider is the "best", not due it catching lots of fish. Simply due to it being easy to work. Not saying anything bad about any brand, just my experience that the devil is in the details.

Joe

I can understand how hollow baits may have conditional idiosyncrasies but I was referring mostly to weight distribution and how it would be more difficult with wood verses plastic due to the uneven distribution of density in wood grain and species. I will be keeping specific notes on any future lures that I make, should make interesting reading some cold winter night.

Posted 12/8/2010 11:42 AM (#469545 - in reply to #469045)
Subject: Re: Glide Baits

Posts: 17

Keep the information coming!!! Thanks for all your help guys.. I will post pictures as the process goes along.

Posted 12/8/2010 1:43 PM (#469568 - in reply to #469045)
Subject: Re: Glide Baits

Posts: 910

Location: South-Central VA

Matt,

I would think that your Stormer Spunk body would lend itself nicely to a glide bait.

jeremy