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| I have been doing a lot of reading here lately and I still have a few questions about line tie and hook hanger locations. Line tie first. I understand the importance of being on the vertical center-line of the bait but what about the horizontal? Locating the line tie above, on, or below the center-line and what effects can be expected from each location? (I understand that any lip will have an effect also)
Now for the hook hangers. If only one hanger is intended should it be at the balance point of the lure or forward or back, if two are intended then what spacing is recommended? Amazing how many considerations there are for a simple fishing lure. My next one will be on lip design. See you soon, Happy Holidays! Pappy | |
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|  Didn't realize I wasn't logged in when I made the post, hope someone will have some input now. Pappy | |
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| Lots of trial and error.
First, look at lures you have and the placement of the line tie and hook hangers on those. Jakes and Grandmas have fairly simple placement while lures like a depthraider will be much harder to copy at home. | |
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| I take it by the lack of response that the information is either impossible to translate or trade secrets. I am sure that many an hour has been spent on trying to work out the dynamics of lure action and I also understand the reluctance to give away such hard won knowledge. OK
I was going through some of my old bookmarks and happened across a link that took me to just such a discussion on the very things I was asking about. Although somewhat general in nature it gives enough helpful information to help the novice get started building lures that actually work and explain why they work the way they do. I thought it was worth passing this information on to all newcomers that want to build custom lures. Here is the link http://www.tacklemaking.com/default.php?pageID=98
I hope you enjoy the information and the wealth of knowledge available at this site. Pappy  | |
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| hi, i make crank baits too. I approach it a little different than some.
First I describe what I want the lure to do- action, running depth, account for preferred line length, account for conditions like weeds, rock (slab,small round, sharp jagged, gravel) sand, preferred rate of speed, method of presentation (troll or cast) and any thing else important like hook hanger and line tie location.
Describe an ideal bait then make one to fit that criteria. Lots of trial and error here. Usually when I get one of your criteria perfect it affects one of the other parts of the make up, then i have to compromise and give a hierarchy of importance to the elements. Action is always more important to me. Some I want to bounce off sharp slab rocks. Long lining this type of presentation will loose lures fast or loose time retrieving them. You get the idea. By the way, I like my hooks hangers as far forward as I can get them. | |
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| I am still new at making baits. So nothing i say is coming from many years of experence, just what i learned in the past year. I am not into making baits to sell and make money so it keeps it fun for me to "play". Once i got my first bait to run the way i wanted it things got much easier. It is for me all TLAR, (thats looks about right)
What i did was make a bait that is "safe" Something easly made, can catch fish and alot of similar baits on the market. This way you can crossreference with already proven baits out there. For me i have a (several sizes) wood minnow bait that looks like a Jake, Grandma... It isnt hard to copy them in terms of shape, and hook placement, you will need to think and make your own changes, like mine is much thicker because i use wood, and i manualy wieght mine with lead...
It is important to look at line tie, in relation to the front of the lip. This is super important, look at baits you have and see them, some are tuned for good tracking others are more eratic. THERE IS NO SET RULE FOR PLACEMENT. I had baits i thought would be a home run hitting so i painted them, only to find they stink. But all it took to fix was to lower line tie and i was grinning (not having to scrap a nice paint job either).
After doing this a while you get a feel on where things need to go, and so on. I have had some line ties so out of wack, they looked aweful but they ran great. So haveing everything perfect is not a goal with me, but having close weighting in close to the right spots with close line tie location you will have a bait that will run good (again i make for myself, no one else) | |
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Line tie, hook hangers