elbow tendonitis
musky slut
Posted 11/24/2010 8:34 AM (#467920)
Subject: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 496


For those of you who get tendonitis in your elbow .....do you get it on the side that you reel with or the side that you hold your rod with ? My left elbow is killing me and wondering if a left handed reel would help or make it worse ?
Slow Rollin
Posted 11/24/2010 8:42 AM (#467922 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis




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side i hold my rod with.....the arm that has more pressure on it when casting...reeling right handed...my left elbow has more pain...a good cortisone shot can help with that or strengthening the muscles around that area - tricep - bicep - shoulder - forearms. lures - reels- rods are getting bigger - the caster will need to get bigger and in better shape to last.
TC24
Posted 11/24/2010 9:21 AM (#467925 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 175


Location: Tonka, MN
Elbow that holds the rod. It usually happens due to what and how I cast. I have learned to work around it.
W8N4SNO
Posted 11/24/2010 11:25 AM (#467934 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 118


Location: Minnesota
I had tennis elbow in my reeling arm (right), I took a cortisone shot and now wear a forearm strap that has help a ton!

Edited by W8N4SNO 11/24/2010 11:26 AM
jay lip ripper
Posted 11/24/2010 12:07 PM (#467944 - in reply to #467934)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





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Location: lake x...where the hell is it?
W8N4SNO - 11/24/2010 11:25 AM

I had tennis elbow in my reeling arm (right), I took a cortisone shot and now wear a forearm strap that has help a ton!


some sort of brace or strap will help, it did me. just use it EVERYTIME you fish and it will get better.

Edited by jay lip ripper 11/24/2010 12:08 PM
Cast
Posted 11/24/2010 12:36 PM (#467947 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis


Rest it. Rest it. Rest it. Once the injury has healed, build up the musculature with regular exercise.
musky-skunk
Posted 11/24/2010 12:53 PM (#467954 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis





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Rest is the only cure, sometimes it takes a painfully long time but it's all that works. Icing it also can help. Cortizone shots mask the pain but it will come back eventually as they don't fix the problem. I've had tennis elbow it in both. The way I used to cast gave it to me in my right, but then while it was healing started casting and holding the rod in my left and now it has it but is almost gone finally. My right is fully healed now. Bad news is it's in my left shoulder now. I also used straps when it was at its worste. arm bands and even a wrist band to limit your motion while fishing does help.
MuskyHopeful
Posted 11/24/2010 1:36 PM (#467960 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





Posts: 2865


Location: Brookfield, WI
I've been fighting it since August (golf related). It totally blows. Since I put the clubs down a month ago it has gotten somewhat better, and I've been taking Aleve by the handful, and icing it at night for a little over two weeks. It's gotten quite a bit better, but still hurts when I lift something. If it's not cured by Spring, I'm cutting the arm off and going Jim Abbot style.

Musky fishing with it really has to suck.

Kevin

Tackle Industries
Posted 11/24/2010 1:43 PM (#467963 - in reply to #467960)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
I have this a little too. Just told my chiropractor about it and he did a few things to my elbow and it feels much better. About to go out and split some wood so I will see how much it really helped once I get going....
jdsplasher
Posted 11/24/2010 7:11 PM (#468010 - in reply to #467963)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





Posts: 2308


Location: SE, WI.

Most will have the problem with the arm you hold your rod. Balancing each and every rod you own is HUGE and  will help with fatigue, and strained tendons.

And yes, get a regiment of exercises for your tendonitis, it also will help reduce your problems...:-O

dward
Posted 11/24/2010 7:53 PM (#468017 - in reply to #468010)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 576


Location: Germantown, WI
ouch! i had it a few years ago (not fishing related) and it took a good 6 months to heal on it's own. injuried it pulling on a chainsaw about 200 times one weekend. no fun at all!!!
spoonva
Posted 11/24/2010 9:52 PM (#468031 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 29


I've been fighting tendonitis in the elbow of my casting arm all fall. I thought it was just because I am so old. lol Been taking advil right before I hit the water and it has seemed to help me get through the day casting. I've also been wearing an arm brace over my elbow. It helps some. I'll rest it once it gets too cold to chase musky. I have also started to cast with my other arm some during the day.

Edited by spoonva 11/24/2010 9:54 PM
BenR
Posted 11/24/2010 9:59 PM (#468032 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis


It all comes from the body being out of line, fix the the issue and the pain goes away. The parts are not over used, they are just not working right....
Hambone
Posted 11/25/2010 7:31 AM (#468049 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis


Try trolling, it works.
kelz
Posted 11/25/2010 10:58 AM (#468072 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 16


Location: Arpin, WI
it sounds wierd but wearing a wrist brace while you sleep helps alot in the healing prosess

Edited by kelz 11/25/2010 11:00 AM
ToddM
Posted 11/25/2010 12:03 PM (#468081 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis


I get it too but I just deal with it. Working out aggrevates it too. If have been married before so this pain is not a problem for me.
SHaas
Posted 11/26/2010 9:02 AM (#468133 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 8


An anti inflammatory helps me, and glucosamine chondroiton may be having some positive effect as well. I also switched to left hand retrieve. Now I'll start wearing out the right side.
Tackle Industries
Posted 11/26/2010 2:21 PM (#468163 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
Agree--Glucosamine & Chondroiton along with omega-3 fatty acids and natural vitamin E (look for gamma tocopherol) are all good anti-inflammatory agents. I did a lot of R&D on these a few years ago. Clinical studies suggested they are as good and sometimes better than other synthetics. They are also synergistic together (1+1=3...).
Guest
Posted 11/29/2010 1:46 PM (#468528 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis


One word PROLOTHERAPY.

It's the only thing that worked for me. If all else fails give it a shot.

The cortizone shots are worthless. Switching to a different reel will not help.
You will only work the other arm or elbow harder to compensate for the other
bad arm resulting in two bad arms.

Guest
Posted 11/29/2010 7:32 PM (#468565 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis


Here's a novel idea-go see a medical professional.
firstsixfeet
Posted 11/29/2010 8:34 PM (#468579 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 2361


Read all the posts. Once again, I have to think that musky fishing has been invaded by a lot of metrosexuals.

Todd M, LOL, exactly my take on it.

Maybe a high colonic would work for some of you guys????
kyleharty
Posted 12/1/2010 8:21 PM (#468769 - in reply to #468081)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 56


Location: Southern MN
ToddM - 11/25/2010 12:03 PM

I get it too but I just deal with it. Working out aggrevates it too.


Did this the other way around myself, strained my left elbow mid October lifting weights; soon came to realize it wasn't gonna fully disappear until after fishing season closed. Casting big rubber definitely didn't help the situation.
rpieske
Posted 12/3/2010 8:47 AM (#468881 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





Posts: 484


Location: St. Louis, MO., Marco Is., FL, Nestor Falls, ON
I have had it in both elbows. I believe I had gotten away from good casting form and technique. I concentrated on keeping my elbows in next to my body and not trying to "muscle" the lure. That plus Naproxen as an anti-inflamatory worked for me. Trying too hard to throw those big rubber baits a country mile didn't do the elbows any good. In between, rest the elbow and apply ice right after fishing.

Edited by rpieske 12/3/2010 8:49 AM
Musky53
Posted 12/3/2010 9:01 AM (#468882 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 255


I work a pretty physical job and that is how I developed mine. I tried the brace and it worked a little. Took it off and the pain came back. Tried proper exercises and proper rest as best i could. That kind of worked for a while. Cortizone shot finally worked for me. I have been pain free for 2 months now.

Top H2O
Posted 12/3/2010 10:22 AM (#468891 - in reply to #468882)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Come on, Suck it up ! ........ Pick up your dress Sally !
I start out throwing smaller lures like 10" jakes or Mag Dawgs, and end with pounders or 14" Jakes....you need to get things loose before ya throw the heavy stuff.
A shot or two of Crown seems to numb any pain that might raise its ugly head.
Don't be a bunch of sissies.....its fishing.....not full contact kick boxing ! Sheeshhhh!!
The Silver Fox, G-Rome

Edited by Top H2O 12/3/2010 10:23 AM
esoxaddict
Posted 12/3/2010 12:05 PM (#468905 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





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I've had it. It's not your normal "this or that hurts" pain you get after a few 10 hour days. It's the kind of pain that makes you drop stuff and shout expletives.

Having both left handed and right handed reels has helped. When it gets bad I'll start the day with some Flex-All and 4 Advil. As someone else added a few shots of Crown throughout the day will help keep things loose, too.

Once it starts, and it's bad enough to change the way you cast and work your baits? You're done -- you get tense and your form goes to crap, and you wind up working twice as had to cast and do figure 8's. That just makes the problem worse.
JimtenHaaf
Posted 12/9/2010 3:11 PM (#469780 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





Posts: 717


Location: Grand Rapids, MI
I was afraid after reading these threads that this is what I had. I just got back from the doc, and it's confirmed. I have elbow tendonitis. It started way back in August after my brother did some stupid UFC move on my arm. I felt something tear or stretch and that was it. We were so busy with work up until now that I didn't have a chance to get in. But just as esoxaddict said, you tend to drop stuff and shout expletives! It almost even happened in church when I reached ahead to grab my bible. You have to grit your teeth anytime your arm is extended and you try to grasp something. I work concrete construction too, so swinging a hammer and lifting forms all day didn't help heal my situation at all. That coupled with fishing after work and I was in agony some days. Hopefully now with the slow work and the off-muskie season, things will get better. The doc also gave me a "brace" that basically just holds the tendons tight to the bone so when you strain, they can't expand out. Seems to help.
CiscoKid
Posted 12/9/2010 6:03 PM (#469806 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
Rest and excercise is the only cure. Cortizone shots and braces are only band-aids. Braces are ok to keep from stressing it under load, but in the long run braces only have a negative effect as you will lose muscle. ie. the worse thing for a bad back is someone that wears a backbrace all the time. The brace doesn't allow you to work the muscles, and thus they just continue to weaken.
BenR
Posted 12/9/2010 9:44 PM (#469819 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis


There is a reason it is happening, the body is not wearing out. If you get everything working in the manner it was supposed to you won't have the issue unless you are injured. Clearly see a Doctor as this is the internet, but getting your body back to how it is supposed to work can really solve back issues and repetitive use pain etc...going from back surgery at the age of 28, to now serious mountain biking and snowboarding in the rockies at 38, has shown me that, finding the cause and fixing the bad habits of your body goes a long way....BR
cjrich
Posted 12/11/2010 11:25 AM (#470000 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





Posts: 551


Location: Columbus, Georgia
It took me quite some time to make the connection. I'd go Muskie fishing and have bad elbow tendonitis. Wearing the brace, taking ibuprofen like it was going out of style ... and suffering. I finally realized that the tendonitis was linked to how mow much work I was doing with my computer mouse.

When I was spending a lot of time using the mouse, there was a direct correlation between whether I was having any pain whatsoever, or was on my knees at the first figure-8 made with double 10's.



Edited by cjrich 12/11/2010 11:35 AM
MuskyFlyGuy
Posted 12/11/2010 12:28 PM (#470009 - in reply to #470000)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 275


there are two types
lateral epicondilytis - tennis elbow
medial epicondilytis - golfer's elbow
check with a doctor and have them prescribe some sessions with a physical therapist
PTs really understand the body and can not only provide some relief, but they will help you understand the causation and what you can do to minimize it.

Tom
JimtenHaaf
Posted 12/11/2010 10:19 PM (#470106 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





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Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Hmmm. Didn't know there were 2 different kinds. Thanks. My doc said I have the tennis elbow. He prescribed the Physical Therapy. Haven't decided if I really want to take the time to do that, but my wife is nagging me to. I'm 30 years old, man! I thought I was supposed to be in my prime right now! Sheesh!
knooter
Posted 12/12/2010 11:44 AM (#470145 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
I had it in my left arm a couple years ago, and this year I ended up with it in my right arm. A good physical therapist will quickly end the pain and inflammation. I had the therapist perform the "Graston Technique", which is aggressive massage with specialized metal tools. That stuff worked well. I was pain free in like five or six short sessions.
For me it wasn't the musky fishing that caused it. It was the year round stress I put on it at work. Fishing was just one of the things that aggravated it.
If you don't think tendonitis is a serious issue, do a youtube search on tendonitis surgery and see thru an arthroscopic camera what it looks like when the tendons are all scarred up and need to be released. Pretty serious stuff if it goes untreated. Don't be a sissy, go see a doctor.
lpmusky
Posted 12/12/2010 3:37 PM (#470251 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis


I have found extending the butt of my rods long enough to sick in my arm pit. This put more pressure on your body and less on your arm. Balance my rods, this is easier with longer butt. Also cast both left hand and right hand well help. I have a friend who was telling me his arm problems this summer. I suggested casting with the other hand, I had to push him to try it. When I fishing with him the last couple weeks of the season he was fine. I put my hours in each season and with my age I have found picking lures depending on how strong I feel (top water easy to heavy rubber lures) and consider taking a break and troll.
CiscoKid
Posted 12/13/2010 12:55 PM (#470346 - in reply to #467920)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
In case some of you don’t know. Lindner’s angling edge has two good booklets done by Troy Lindner that has some basic exercises for a fisherman to do. The booklets are free. You just have to download. Here is the link to the homepage. What I am speaking of can be found at the bottom.

Sometimes if you are already in bad shape to begin with (bad shape as in knotted up) you may need to see someone to “release” the muscles prior to exercising and stretching. Otherwise stretching a tight muscle is almost like pulling on a string with a knot in it to get the knot out. You just make it tighter. If anyone is looking for a good person to see in the Green Bay area just let me know. I know a really good Kinseotherapist.

Here is the link to Angling Edge.

http://www.anglingedge.com/pages/home.shtml
Jerry Newman
Posted 12/27/2010 8:57 AM (#472103 - in reply to #470346)
Subject: RE: elbow tendonitis




Location: 31
When everything else failed (exercise/cortisone shots) I had this shockwave procedure performed on my elbow. I still have some issues, but nothing like before.

http://www.shockwavetherapy.ca/what_we_offer.htm

The best and most convenient preventative exercise I have found is stretching the tendon a few times a day by bending the fingers back for 30-60 seconds . I just use the front edge of my desk or the steering wheel of the car to push against.





Edited by Jerry Newman 12/27/2010 9:57 AM
Slamr
Posted 12/27/2010 9:35 AM (#472110 - in reply to #470106)
Subject: Re: elbow tendonitis





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
JimtenHaaf - 12/11/2010 10:19 PM

Hmmm. Didn't know there were 2 different kinds. Thanks. My doc said I have the tennis elbow. He prescribed the Physical Therapy. Haven't decided if I really want to take the time to do that, but my wife is nagging me to. I'm 30 years old, man! I thought I was supposed to be in my prime right now! Sheesh!


The doc says what to do, and you say you might not want to take the time to do what he suggests. The pain must not be that bad.