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| How do you guys fix the tails on your rubber baits, i hear you just take a lighter to them, but i don't seen to have any luck fixing a tear, it just pulls back a part after a cast or two? |
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Location: Contrarian Island | little butane torch from bass pro does a nice job on the water...or you can take a soldering iron and do it at home or in the garage
here is the torch i use...it rocks...
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_1...
Edited by BNelson 8/6/2010 11:10 AM
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Location: Twin Cities | Mend it is the only way to fly. |
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Location: In a shack in the woods | I've got a little pocket torch from fleet farm. I've used mend it but like the torch better. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Butane Torch !!!!!!!!!!! and or CLEAR PVC CEMENT from Menards
Edited by PIKEMASTER 8/6/2010 1:37 PM
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Location: Tonka, MN | Tortch. Heat up a knife and stick it in. |
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| The old dawgs could be glued together with super glue or I use "the ultimate instant glue system" that you can find at most musky shops. I know Rollie and Hellen's muskyshop.com has it. I have glued baits that a person would deem unfixable back to money-maker status. Good Luck. Glue system is $10 by the way. |
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Location: syracuse indiana | thorn bro's has a good video on this. check it out on their website |
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| Thanks guys for the info...going to have to pick up one of the mini torches and give it a try. |
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Location: Denmark | Actually a bong lighter(GAS) will do just fine, the kind you will find for 1,5 $ in shops dealing with articles for smoking Majuanna.
http://www.head-nature.com/06116 |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | The windproof torch is the best for on the boat. . . Just adding 2 more cents to the pot. |
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Location: VA | I wish something would try and tear mine up! LOL
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| A berkley hot line cutter works excellent,i have tried just about all the fixes but the line cutter is the best i have found imo. |
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Location: Medford, WI | A torch/lighter will work if you want it too, but you also lose a fair amount of plastic in the process. I would highly recommend at least giving Mend-It a try. I never really thought the glue/liquid products would work that well, but I strictly use mend it now.
I just caught my 20th fish on the same 11" curly sue and have touched it up with Mend-It when needed so that goes to show the quality of both sues and Mend-It.
-Jake Bucki |
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Location: Montreal, Que. Canada | Hi Jake,
I love Mend-it too for body work but I haven't had any luck with tail replacement. Have you replaced many tails on your marathon 11"?
David |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Here is a video I made for fixing tails with a torch on a well used Mag SuperD. I do show using a torch on the body of the lure for teeth cuts but IMO for the shredded bodies use Mend-It or Hawg Seekers glue and drip it over all of the cuts and then let it sit for 60 minutes. That will heal the tooth cuts throughout the cut much better than a torch since you are not melting very deep into the lure with a torch.
JMO,
James
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/videos/07.29.2008/1063/Fixing.a.Rub...
I also have tails now for Regular, Mag and MegaD/Pounder swimbaits: You can find them at the bottom of each of my swimbait pages for the specific sizes you are looking for. They work on SuperDs, Bulldawgs, Shack Attack, etc, about anything made out of plastisol. Fun to mix up colors on swimbaits.
Reg tails:
http://www.tackleindustries.com/bassfishingprolure.html
Mag tails:
http://www.tackleindustries.com/largemouthbasslure.html
MegaD/Pounder tails:
http://www.tackleindustries.com/pikeswimbait.html
James
Edited by Tackle Industries 8/12/2010 9:58 AM
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Location: Twin Cities | DH.Pare - 8/12/2010 9:02 AM
Hi Jake,
I love Mend-it too for body work but I haven't had any luck with tail replacement. Have you replaced many tails on your marathon 11"?
David
I've had it work on several tail replacements. I have a black bulldawg on it's 4th or 5th tail now using mend-it for each new one. Couple weeks ago I got a bulldawg replacement tail to glue to a kickin minnow body for something a little different, didn't use anything but mend-it.
How long are you letting it dry? And in what temperature? The first few minutes are crucial to hold the cut/gap together while it bonds... |
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Location: Michigan | I've used Mend-it a little bit and it worked for some smaller body cuts when I first opened the bottle, but after that I couldn't get it to work on any sort of cut, big or small. It actually seemed to make the cuts bigger. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I would hold the cuts closed for ten minutes and open it up to find the cuts still weren't fixed. |
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Location: Denmark | Tackle Industries - 8/12/2010 9:23 AM
Here is a video I made for fixing tails with a torch on a well used Mag SuperD. I do show using a torch on the body of the lure for teeth cuts but IMO for the shredded bodies use Mend-It or Hawg Seekers glue and drip it over all of the cuts and then let it sit for 60 minutes. That will heal the tooth cuts throughout the cut much better than a torch since you are not melting very deep into the lure with a torch.
JMO,
James
True, the cuts are tricky to repair with a torch. Do u know if Mend it can be used to glue the eyes back on if they falls of(not my eyes,, LOL)
Edited by Killerbug 8/12/2010 6:22 PM
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | Killerbug - 8/12/2010 6:18 PM
True, the cuts are tricky to repair with a torch. Do u know if Mend it can be used to glue the eyes back on if they falls of(not my eyes,, LOL)
Mend-It does not act like a normal glue, so no. It will only work to bond soft plastic to soft plastic.
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Location: Rhinelander | Medford Fisher - 8/12/2010 8:41 AM
A torch/lighter will work if you want it too, but you also lose a fair amount of plastic in the process. I would highly recommend at least giving Mend-It a try. I never really thought the glue/liquid products would work that well, but I strictly use mend it now.
I just caught my 20th fish on the same 11" curly sue and have touched it up with Mend-It when needed so that goes to show the quality of both sues and Mend-It.
-Jake Bucki
Is that the same sue you caught the big girl in my boat last week? Or do you have another "hot bait" you were hiding from me?  |
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Location: Van Buren, Indiana | If I'm at home I like using a pen sized solder iron. You can remelt the tear or hole from the inside out. You can also get a good remelt putting the tail back together. It also works great to remelt the first joint on Kick'n Minnow's, and if needed replace the plastic in that joint with a piece of grub plastic. Did that to alot of Minnow's, of course that was before the arrival of the Shadillac!! That torch looks good for boat repairs though!
Edited by Ifishtolive 8/12/2010 8:40 PM
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Location: Hayward, WI | I bought a cheap butane soldering iron that works pretty well at healing rubber baits. I usually use the fairly flat "cutting" tip for most repairs. You can melt deep cuts back together very well with it, and with a little practice you don't really melt the rubber away either. I can also unscrew the tip and have it just be a hot torch flame too. That's better in the boat sometimes since you don't have to worry about letting the tip cool back down for several minutes.
I have a curly Sue that has seen quite a bit of action and is still going strong. It doesn't exactly look brand new due to all the melted together seams, but it is still pretty structurally sound.
Jake, I bet your Sue with 20 fish on it looks like it's been around the block a time or two. WOW! Better post a picture of it on here...so I can get one that color... lol!
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Location: Land of the Musky | Killerbug,
The secret about glueing eyes onto plastisol baits is to use Super Glue mixed with a small amount of cigarette ash. I know it sounds odd but the ash acts as an extra cross linking bond IMO and really gets both materials to stick to each other. Super Glue alone does work, just not as well.
James
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Location: Wishin I Was Fishin' | I'll second the line cutter / cauterizer: http://www.muromachi.com/fst/SurgAcc/18000-00.htm
Someplaces sell them as line cutters. They originated as disposable cauterizers for the medical industry. I get mine from a nurse friend.
Even easier to just use a Hard Head. I'm so frustrated when the rear hook hanger pulls out, the lead head pulls out or the tail gets bit off on a bait I paid so much for. I think someone should start a rubber recycle program and melt the tore up ones back down. I know I could send a bunch thier way. |
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Location: Denmark | Thanks a lot James, you just gave my one good reason taking up smoking again |
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Location: beloit | http://www.tequipment.net/WellerBP645MP.html
I bet this would work good too |
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| Just played around with some video editing s/w and thought I'd share this with you. It's pretty rough, but hopefully it has some value to those that have never seen a rubber muskie lure repaired before and want to give it a shot. This technique will work on just about any rubber musky lure including a Bull Dawg, Mag SuperD, Medusa, Big Joe, curly sue Rubber Dubber, rubber Reef Hawg, etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahtd2c33rdg |
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Location: La Crosse, WI | Mend-it is the best. I use it all the time for swimbaits. Works on every brand I have tried so far. I even had to put a 2lb bulldawg back together that someone ripped in half at a show and it is just as strong as before. Just takes longer for huge bonds. |
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