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Location: Montreal, Que. Canada | I was woundering when a big fish bites the head and just the head on a mag dawg or even bite's it off does anybody have a solution for that problem? I have put 7/0 mustads 3551's on it, just hopping there was something more with out overloading it with hooks.
THanks,
David
Edited by DH.Pare 8/2/2010 4:18 PM
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Location: Hayward, WI | Do you mean that they are hitting the bait so far forward that they are not getting hooked? I have had that patrcular thing happen once or twice, but it is pretty rare. Fish USUALLY take rubber baits pretty well. Lots of times they hit it from the side and are fairly centered on the front hook. Sometimes they hit them from behind and get most of the bait in their mouth, and sometimes they hit head on and get most of the front half of the bait in their mouth. Sometimes they miss a little and hit the bait funny, but that happens with any bait.
I think 7/0 Mustad 3551's are a great hook to use on Mag Dawgs.
curleytail
Edited by curleytail 8/2/2010 11:51 PM
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Location: VA | Interesting.....just a random thought from a buddy of mine: could the musky get such a good "bite" into the plastic rubbery part of the lure that they could HOLD the lure in their mouth and setting the hook does nothing but move the musky's head without ever moving the lure? Might explain the bite out of the lure also.
And whats up with the price on the dogs anyway? Only difference I see from a cheap one and a bait costing nearly twice as much is a set of plastic eyes.....
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Location: Hopefully on the water | As far as the hookset and not moving the hooks. It is possible yes, but when I fish with any rubber bait I tend to load up on my hooksets even more. We haven't had much of a problem with the hooksets except for the tail nippers and coming back with a partial bait. The price is the price of any bait. Personally myself if a bait cost $100 each and I knew it would get destroyed everytime out from multiple fish I would by it.
As far as u\changing the size of the hooks, I wouldn't. As it was said before it depends on how the fish bites and the angle it does it from. Plus each person has a different reaction time on hooksets and how the hook is set. Rubber baits can take some getting use to on certain occasions and other time I have seen just the tip of the til sticking out of thier mouths almost making impossible to get off. |
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Location: 15 miles east of Lake Kinkaid | DR in VA....I do believe this is possible, but much more likely when using a very hard plastic such a Curley Sues. I find Bulldawgs to slice very well when pulling the rubber bait through the musky's teeth. (Even though this limits the amount of fish caught on 1 bait, I believe it gives the best chance of landing fish that hit; which, to me, is the most important part.)
D.H. Pare....I have had what you described happen o me twice while pumping a dawg, and got the bait back with the head shredded but never got hooks in the fish, so I know what you are talking about. Most of the time, as Curleytail explained the bait is attacked from the side and centered on the front hook.
One thing is for sure.....plastic puts fish in the boat! |
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Location: VA | twells,
"Personally myself if a bait cost $100 each and I knew it would get destroyed everytime out from multiple fish I would by it."
Please delete that so that the lure makers dont see it!! LOL
Yep, I understand the cost, I let go of some green on 2 lures just today, one was the mentioned $18 lure with the plastic eyes....I hope the musky like it Saturday as well as I did in the store 
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Location: Hopefully on the water | DR in VA,
I agree about the $100 dollar bait. But think of it this way also. None of of us would have as many baits as we do that sit idle in our boxes, wall, and garages. It may benefit us somewhere along the line. I know it would me and limit myself to 1 or 2 baits total. I wouldn't want to pay that all the time either.... just say LOL. |
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Location: VA | Yep....Twells I agree completely, except the 1-2 baits part....I might could get by with 5-6
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Location: Montreal, Que. Canada | So you guys are saying that the head bites don't happen enough to put a stinger hook under the nose. Putting a 1/0 4x treble on the split ring on the RedOctober monster tube's nose for the nose rig has worked wonders for us though I guess the Mag dawgs are a different animal.
Thanks for the imput!!
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Location: Hopefully on the water | DH.Pare, with the Red October bait I believe there is a longer distance between the plit ring and the hook on those tubes that make it beneficial to do that. On a Mag of any brand there isn't much a "gap" that would warrant it in my opinion. Good luck fishing. |
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