Open Water Walk The Dog Cadence
jakejusa
Posted 6/10/2010 11:00 AM (#444790)
Subject: Open Water Walk The Dog Cadence




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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan!
Now that we have season's open all over and the "Roland Martin's of winter" have run into reality, let's talk some fishing!
What retrieve cadence have you found to be the most productive for a walk the dog lure in SPRING? H2O in 60's
esoxaddict
Posted 6/10/2010 11:58 AM (#444797 - in reply to #444790)
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chicken dance
MuskieMike
Posted 6/10/2010 12:15 PM (#444801 - in reply to #444790)
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Location: Des Moines IA
Hokey Pokey ......
jonnysled
Posted 6/10/2010 12:50 PM (#444807 - in reply to #444801)
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MuskieMike - 6/10/2010 12:15 PM

Hokey Pokey ......


yup
jakejusa
Posted 6/10/2010 12:53 PM (#444808 - in reply to #444790)
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan!
guess I started this thread in the wrong place, so it would make sense you guys would relate to a beat vs. a count or lead rythm. Ha Ha
MstormC
Posted 6/10/2010 1:20 PM (#444812 - in reply to #444801)
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MuskieMike - 6/10/2010 12:15 PM

Hokey Pokey ......


it is what it is all about!
MuskieMike
Posted 6/10/2010 4:48 PM (#444853 - in reply to #444790)
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Location: Des Moines IA
In all seriousness ...... In my limited WTD experience .....I've seen them work at mach 1, and also at a snails pace. I usually fish them faster shallow then I do when over Deep Water. There is something about the "Death March" over Deep Water that works? My .02$
Guest
Posted 6/10/2010 5:06 PM (#444859 - in reply to #444790)
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Here is something scary to think about. What if the hokey pokey is what it is all about?
MuskyRuss
Posted 6/10/2010 6:14 PM (#444868 - in reply to #444790)
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Old MacDonald
esoxaddict
Posted 6/10/2010 6:24 PM (#444869 - in reply to #444790)
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I tried the hokey pokey thing. The water was really cold, and I didn't catch any fish.

Being serious for a moment...

Change it up. I've had fish blow up on WTD baits with super fast erratic retrieves, slow and steady retrieves, and even when the lure was just sitting there. The chicken dance actually does work if you slow it down a bit, but once you get that stupid song in your head it won't go away. I'd rather catch no muskies at all than have that %^$*^& song going through my head all day.
archerynut36
Posted 6/10/2010 6:54 PM (#444877 - in reply to #444790)
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swoosh, swoosh, swoosh
muskie! nut
Posted 6/10/2010 8:00 PM (#444892 - in reply to #444790)
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Location: Yahara River Chain
Beer Barrel Polka. And a few uffdas from the tuba to boot.
PSYS
Posted 6/10/2010 8:10 PM (#444893 - in reply to #444790)
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Steady death march is awesome... halfway through, change it up at a moment's notice and work it really fast. Then slow it back down.
sworrall
Posted 6/10/2010 8:18 PM (#444895 - in reply to #444790)
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I don't use a cadence. Walk the walk and talk the talk.
ToddM
Posted 6/10/2010 10:32 PM (#444933 - in reply to #444790)
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I love the death march swoosh.........swoosh.........swoosh.........swoosh. Fish like it too.

If that doesn't work try the chicken dance, the hokey pokey and if nothing else some Rick Astley for those male muskies that opted out of the spawn cycle.

Edited by ToddM 6/10/2010 10:34 PM
muskie24/7
Posted 6/11/2010 7:55 AM (#444972 - in reply to #444933)
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Slow to Med. with faster speed changes a couple times each cast! Following fish get a real fast retreive!

Brian
jakejusa
Posted 6/11/2010 8:10 AM (#444976 - in reply to #444790)
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Had a guy in the boat last year that was religious over open water using a 5-3 count. He had a Weagle and would walk for 5 then pause, for 3 and then pop it to start up again. I had pretty much been under the impression a steady retrieve was the best bet prior to seeing that whole thing. He did have a few that were gawking at it at rest that blew out right when it started. I figured they were not too interested in eating anyway. Something about that pause though that was annoying me, but seemed to have merit.
Sam Ubl
Posted 6/11/2010 3:47 PM (#445063 - in reply to #444790)
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Location: SE Wisconsin
Switch it up and make it real - whatever 'real' is to you at that moment. Open water seems like a place for you to consider it a wounded fish, so for confidence sake, think of it that way and make it act. Point is, confidence in your pauses, switch-speeds, length of glide from side to side variance... it all boils down to your imagination and allow that to instill a confidence in your retrieve. When you start believing that it's gonna get eaten because there's no way it couldn't, you've got her down. You want to leave the water thinking, "Well, the fish just weren't eating today!", rather than, "Wonder what I was doing wrong??"

Consider this - If kumbaya songs or kiddy songs like "Do the Hokey Pokey" or "Old McDonald" seem viable to the harmony of your "swoosh swoosh swoosh", than chances are you're gonna bore the hell out of the fish - they don't eat robots.

Edited by Sam Ubl 6/11/2010 3:51 PM
venison_burger
Posted 6/11/2010 9:17 PM (#445116 - in reply to #444790)
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Location: Minnesota
During the death march I like to use "Stayin' Alive"
muletrain
Posted 6/13/2010 9:29 PM (#445330 - in reply to #445116)
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"That's the way uh huh-uh huh I Like It-uh huh-uh huh, That's the way................
-Chris
over yonder
Posted 6/16/2010 1:06 PM (#445861 - in reply to #444790)
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There are two kinds of people in this world:

The kind that know the hokey pokey really IS what it's all about

and those that dont.

As for fishing, let them tell you. If they're not talking, then you are doing it very, very wrong.
esoxaddict
Posted 6/16/2010 1:38 PM (#445867 - in reply to #445063)
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Sam Ubl - 6/11/2010 3:47 PM

[...]

Consider this - If kumbaya songs or kiddy songs like "Do the Hokey Pokey" or "Old McDonald" seem viable to the harmony of your "swoosh swoosh swoosh", than chances are you're gonna bore the hell out of the fish - they don't eat robots.


Yeah, but then 'ya don't get to annoy your boat partner with some obnoxious kiddie song. And the laughs in the boat when you actually score a fish while singing said song at the top of your lungs? Priceless.

I don't know as much about muskie fishing as a lot of guys, but I've learned one thing over the years:

I don't care how you fish. If you're not having fun out there, you're doing something wrong!