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Location: Eagan, MN | I'm trying make some leaders for trolling, using 90 lb Mason Nylostrand. It seems like I can make them slip pretty easily by hooking one end to something solid, and pulling the other end w/ a channel lock. Not sure exactly how much pressure I'm applying but it doesn't seem like all that much. Usually the crimp strips the coating off the wire. I tried crimping just the middle part of the crimp but that didn't help. According to thorne bros I'm using the right size crimps. Should I be able to pull these apart this easily or am I doing something wrong? Any tips/pointers? |
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| Here is a great place to learn how to crimp. I would compare what you are doing with what they say and see if there is any differences. I make my leaders with nylon coated and have not had any trouble.
http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/crimp_techniques.html |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Once the crimp is in place, a tiny drop of super glue won't hurt anything. |
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Location: Racine, Wi | Before you crimp, make sure to leave a 3-4" tag, then wrap the wire around itself and melt it together. That will give you a good solid hold with the tag end, then crimp as you normally would. That should keep it from twisting.
Note, just barely hold the flame to it as it melts fast, and if you heat too much, you'll melt the coating down to the wire. |
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| I melt the nylon like tuffy. One of the reasons I like to use nylon coated wire for trolling. |
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| cast10K - 5/27/2010 11:01 PM
I'm trying make some leaders for trolling, using 90 lb Mason Nylostrand. It seems like I can make them slip pretty easily by hooking one end to something solid, and pulling the other end w/ a channel lock. Not sure exactly how much pressure I'm applying but it doesn't seem like all that much. Usually the crimp strips the coating off the wire. I tried crimping just the middle part of the crimp but that didn't help. According to thorne bros I'm using the right size crimps. Should I be able to pull these apart this easily or am I doing something wrong? Any tips/pointers?
I am guessing that is a lot more pressure than ANY fishing situation you will have with a fish. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | firstsixfeet - 5/28/2010 12:11 PM
I am guessing that is a lot more pressure than ANY fishing situation you will have with a fish.
It is not always the fish, but the snag that will do a leader in, however. IMO, the leader should not be the weak link. That said, crimp in the middle, and both edges is what I was always taught.
Edited by RyanJoz 5/28/2010 12:17 PM
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Location: Eagan, MN | firstsixfeet - 5/28/2010 12:11 PM
I am guessing that is a lot more pressure than ANY fishing situation you will have with a fish.
That's kinda what I was thinking, but I'm worried about leaving a lure stuck in a fish's mouth. I IM'd dougj (I got the idea to use coated from watching him on an in-fisherman video) and he says he double crimps and has never had one slip.
Thanks for all the replies. Going to do some more tinkering tonight.
Edited by cast10K 5/28/2010 5:32 PM
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Location: Madtown, WI | I use 4 crimps for mine, better safe than sorry! |
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| I use coated wire for 90% of my casting and all my trolling. I do a double crimp and they hold solid.
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coated 7 strand leaders