Live bait (walleye) question
J.Sloan
Posted 5/11/2010 6:04 PM (#440304)
Subject: Live bait (walleye) question





Location: Lake Tomahawk, WI
Probably the wrong forum for such a question, but anyway:

We need to order some leeches and have them shipped to Montana. Anyone have any info on this type of thing? Is this still legal? Thanks in advance.

JS
shaley
Posted 5/11/2010 6:15 PM (#440307 - in reply to #440304)
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J.Sloan
Posted 5/11/2010 7:00 PM (#440326 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: Lake Tomahawk, WI
Got it. Thanks a lot Sorno and Shaley!

JS
dogboy
Posted 5/12/2010 7:45 AM (#440408 - in reply to #440304)
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they have excellent service and good bait.
C.Painter
Posted 5/12/2010 12:52 PM (#440454 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: Madtown, WI
I thought you wre going to ask about using walleyes on quick strike rigs
jonnysled
Posted 5/12/2010 12:55 PM (#440457 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
not meant to hi-jack ... but any of you guys using the berkley artificial leeches for any species? i'm trying to save some money and storage for the coming summer. i go through about a pound of leeches a week and not only for the cost, but durability (fish per leech) trying to see if they are worth trying.

tonight will be a test run ... we do lots of bass jig-n-leech fishing. i'm hoping they will work ...

would like to hear some comments from experience
TJ DeVoe
Posted 5/12/2010 1:05 PM (#440458 - in reply to #440457)
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Location: Stevens Point, WI
Sled, the Berkley Leeches are worth a try. I've got multiple buckets of those things that haven't been opened. I'll make you a real good deal on one:)
jonnysled
Posted 5/12/2010 1:15 PM (#440460 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
if they work i'll buy whatever you've got. we plough through lots and lotsa leeches in a given season. just throw em in the boat next time you're up, or jump in the boat for some bassin' and we'll sort em out.
Musky Brian
Posted 5/12/2010 1:25 PM (#440464 - in reply to #440460)
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
I have been told the fake leeches work GREAT...well, here was my experience with them...

I was on a one day walleye trip to Lac Seul a few years back. We were set up in a current drift where you would toss out a slip bobber with a jig and leech and let it ride down the current....Almost every single trip down the water resulted in a walleye sucking in the bait. Having bought a package of the fake guys I deemed this as a perfect opportunity to test them out.....15 minutes later hadn't even gotten a bite as the guys around me kept reeling in fish right and left....Take the story for what it's worth but I will not be buying them again
Juhas
Posted 5/12/2010 1:28 PM (#440465 - in reply to #440304)
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Sled are you making sandwiches with the leaches while you're bass fishing?
jonnysled
Posted 5/12/2010 1:47 PM (#440468 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
chris ... i got 4 kids and the lakes are filled with hungry large and smallmouth bass. we get a pound on thursdays and they're gone by sunday. the bass fishing is so good on some lakes (some nice size too), it makes the musky fishing hard to justify sometimes.

brian ... are they durable so that you can catch a few fish on each one?
Pointerpride102
Posted 5/12/2010 1:49 PM (#440470 - in reply to #440464)
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Location: The desert
Musky Brian - 5/12/2010 1:25 PM

I have been told the fake leeches work GREAT...well, here was my experience with them...

I was on a one day walleye trip to Lac Seul a few years back. We were set up in a current drift where you would toss out a slip bobber with a jig and leech and let it ride down the current....Almost every single trip down the water resulted in a walleye sucking in the bait. Having bought a package of the fake guys I deemed this as a perfect opportunity to test them out.....15 minutes later hadn't even gotten a bite as the guys around me kept reeling in fish right and left....Take the story for what it's worth but I will not be buying them again :)


So you mean to tell me you caught them drifting your jig/bobber rig DOWN current and not casting them down and reeling up the current? And you're telling me you caught a fish on nearly every cast? I wonder how many you would have caught casting down current and reeling up instead of drifting them....well I don't really wonder, I already know the answer to that.
esoxaddict
Posted 5/12/2010 1:58 PM (#440473 - in reply to #440304)
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Sled,

I've used them with mixed results. I've caught quite a few fish on the larger sized Gulp leeches, but it's all been in situations (i.e. using a beetle spin for example) where I suspect any soft plastic would work. Unlike live leeches, they are good for multiple fish. I've also had some success using them under a slip bobber in place of live bait. The consistency and the action is not anything like a real leech, but they do look like leeches, and whatever that gulp goop is, it seems to cause the fish to hang on longer than they would using something like a Powerbait, or a non-scented soft plastic.

I've never done a side by side comparison, but I'll probably buy more when what I have runs out.

I would STRONGLY suggest you buy Plano's small "liqua bait" locker to store them in if you are going to use them with any regularity. The tubs they come in tend to leak, and that stuff gets all over everything.
Musky Brian
Posted 5/12/2010 2:01 PM (#440475 - in reply to #440468)
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
They seem durable...they will save you a few bucks, but at the end of the day they are still fake and just won't have the same action in the water as the real guys.Next time you go out bring both and have see how it plays out, I have read numerous stories where the fake ones out fish the real ones but yeah, I'm just not buying it...and who even knows for sure what role smell plays or doesn't play in the equation
Guest
Posted 5/12/2010 2:20 PM (#440481 - in reply to #440304)
Subject: RE: Live bait (walleye) question


Jigging for walleyes with a Gulp leech I caught a mid-thirties muskie. Didn't get any walleyes though.
leech lake strain
Posted 5/12/2010 9:50 PM (#440609 - in reply to #440304)
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you could always try a slug o lol
whynot
Posted 5/13/2010 8:44 AM (#440662 - in reply to #440304)
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My experiences with Gulp Leeches have been both good and bad. If you're using them under a bobber, you might have a tough day because they simply do not give the action of a real leech. I've never used them under a bobber in current so I can't comment on that. If you're using them lindy rigging or pitching jigs, they work great because you're imparting action into it. Live bait will still outfish Gulp lindy rigging and pitching jigs on some days, but some days Gulp will outfish live bait. And yes, you can usually use them for a bunch of fish before you have to replace them.
Sam Ubl
Posted 5/13/2010 8:50 AM (#440665 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: SE Wisconsin
Great points, Whynot. Sled, if you need more input, I'd hit up the WalleyeFIRST guys - some generous tips I've recieved over there.

For the dude using fake leeches under a bobber - ummm.
jonnysled
Posted 5/13/2010 8:53 AM (#440667 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
i used them for the first time last night and i'm both intrigued and skeptical ... just isn't a fat juicy leach. i'm imagining a hot-bite or a tournament that doesn't allow live-bait is where they'll apply. but when it's a little tougher i just don't see myself having confidence with them.

i did catch a few fish (lm bass) with them last night on the fall after being twitched through weeds and was impressed with their durability.
BNelson
Posted 5/13/2010 8:56 AM (#440669 - in reply to #440667)
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Location: Contrarian Island
to me the fake leeches would be better used in a current/river situation ...def not under a slip bobber...i had taken some up to canada yrs ago and they worked ok but a 3 and 4 inch twister tail did better than the fake leeches that trip
imo if fish are aggressively feeding/active you can use the fake ones but when the bite has slowed and you have to finesse them more live bait will shine...for example a couple weekends ago I got into prespawn smallys up in vilas..they were very very aggressive one day so I kept switching the twister tail color, size and even type to see what they would not hit...I couldn't find a combo they didn't like..then when it was tougher ..i had to downsize the jig and tip it with a live red tail chub to get the hits... you are probably best to carry some when they are aggressive and active don't waste your leeches but when it's tough pull out the real deal

Edited by BNelson 5/13/2010 8:59 AM
iamaddicted
Posted 5/13/2010 12:27 PM (#440725 - in reply to #440454)
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Location: Twin Cities
I thought you wre going to ask about using walleyes on quick strike rigs

I heard of a guy who does this in Wisconsin. Can't be legal is it?
Sam Ubl
Posted 5/13/2010 12:38 PM (#440730 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: SE Wisconsin
unfortunately it is. . . It would count against his daily bag limit, though, and of course has to be of legal size.
CiscoKid
Posted 5/13/2010 12:54 PM (#440734 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI
If the Gulp Alive leaches are anything like the minnows they are definitely worth the shot. In the four years we have used the minnows we were only out fished one day by live bait, and that was the Sun. of this year of opening weekend. What turned me onto them was I had fish that kept short hitting my live minnow, and therefore I would end up setting and ripping the minnow off the jig. In an effort to “save” the live bait I threw on a minnow and the rest is history. The fish were inhaling them compared to the non-aggressive hits the live ones were producing.

I would agree in the situations to use them in. Any that you are imparting the action (jigging, dragging, etc…) is good. Stationary under say a bobber I would think wouldn’t be as effective. So I guess for kids that aren’t to the point of jigging yet I would possibly stay with the real deal. For you Sled give them babies a workout!

Standard Gulp is great, but that Gulp Alive stuff is simply amazing! Stinks to high heaven though. I now have a windbreaker that was kept in the same locker as four tubs of the stuff, and I now smell like a dog that rolled through something dead in the woods. It is good for sticking your stinky fingers in front of your partners nose though.
Sam Ubl
Posted 5/13/2010 1:33 PM (#440738 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: SE Wisconsin
Another little tid-bit about Gulp. . . Don't let it dry to your hook. It will shrink to the size of your pinky nail, and turns to hard plastic (a pain to get off the hook).
MuskyHopeful
Posted 5/13/2010 7:28 PM (#440822 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: Brookfield, WI
Those fake leeches might catch fish, but how are they at bleeding someone with a fever?

Kevin
sworrall
Posted 5/13/2010 7:42 PM (#440827 - in reply to #440304)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Regularly used as a control in all medical experiments of that ilk.
guest
Posted 5/14/2010 5:51 AM (#440868 - in reply to #440304)
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try running the gulp leech on a drop shot rig instead of a traditional jighead. It will be next to impossible to not impart action to the bait due to the rig configuration.
Mr Musky
Posted 5/14/2010 8:56 PM (#440976 - in reply to #440304)
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Gulp alive reminds me of 8th grade all over again.

Edited by Mr Musky 5/14/2010 8:57 PM