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| I troll for the majority of time for musky. Although I troll often, I have never used wire line. I was wondering what pound test and brand name you put on your reels? Thanks--Todd |
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Location: Racine, Wi | For wire, I've used the same line I run for salmon. I use 7strand 30# Malin wire for my wire set ups. All you have to do to tie the wire is an overhand Loop Knot. Then you can use a snap swivel to that connection by threading the loop through the eye of the swivel, then dropping the swivel down through the loop (hopefully that makes sense, other wise I can see if I can find some pics of how that works). Easier to do than say on a forum board. 
Make sure to set your drags much more loose with wire as there's noooooo stretch there so it's tough on your gear. |
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Location: Racine, Wi | Found a link to how you can tie the wire as described above with pics.
http://www.nocliquefishing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=106&p=762... |
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Location: Northern IL | Buck Perry said the future of fishing was with wire and how right he was....
I too use 30lbs but in the single strand variety. I tie a hay bale twist to a 80lbs swivel to a 80lb mono leader to a 80lbs snap. The lighter the lbs test the deeper the bait will run but the more lures you will loose, 30lbs is a good compromise.
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| Why do you think you need to use wire line for trolling Musky? Wire line is usually for very deep trolling. How how productive is deep trolling with Muskies?
We've wire-line trolled for DEEP lake trout---60' or so. The reason you use wire is because with that much line out mono tends to balloon out and you have more line in back of you than under you. Wire line helps prevent that.
Then there's the issue of wire being hard on your equipment. We used rigs with roller guides on the tip, or the wire was too hard on the guide. Just wanted to say that unless you're fishing WAY deep, you probably don't need to be using wire---but of course you can do whatever you want!
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| Single strand wire for muskies is very useful, it puts out a whole new vibration for the lure...You could compare it to the current rage of DB bucktails versus the smaller blades of the past...also with the spring rod tip it is easy to run and great at keeping weeds off the bait. It is equally effective shortlined or fishing deeper. Really a solid addition to your trolling techniques and a blast to fight fish on...BR |
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Location: Lake Tomahawk, WI | The reason I use wire line for trolling muskies isn't necessarily to get the lure really deep, but to achieve the desired running depths with less line out. Keeping my flat-lines (wire) closer to the boat I can run structure more precisely.
JS |
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Location: Northern IL | guest...
I don't think I need wire but know, in fact I wouldn't EVER fish without it!
Wire gets a smaller bait to deeper depths (walleye, lake trout ect... with far less line. Mono is good to about 25' after that wire.
If your running in 60' then you already know it takes aprox 250' of 30lbs single strand with the deepest diving crank available. Wire sinks, mono does not. Some guys I fish with use weights with mono and that works as well, however it does not work well for mapping purposes, imo. Using wire for any other reason than to achieve depth control is missing the point.
"How how productive is deep trolling with Muskies?"
How productive is shallow water trolling for Muskies?" If the fish are in 10' and we run a bait in 27', how many are we going to catch, and vice versa.
Never tried the spring tip but the rollers suck, the line gets caught in between unless held at the correct angle. Replacing the tip with a good ceramic works well. The line guide on the reel may also need to be replaced. |
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Location: Pittsburgh | BenR what are these spring tips and where might I find them. |
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| It's called a twill-i tip. Using this tip makes a much softer curve at the rod tip to minimize any kinks.
Here's a link http://www.lakemichiganangler.com/store/Twili_Tip.htm |
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Location: Pittsburgh | thankyou |
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