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| Muskie expo just ended,,,I and other members worked the MI booth 3 days and gathered signatures for the letter and petition for the 5 new muskie waters and we did very well but not everyone Im guessing- 60% - 75% signed for the show attendees,,,there were at least 6 other stations for sign up designated by bright green flags,,Public address would regularly make the announcement to "stop at flag areas and sign for the new lakes" with a discription of what the intent was,,,However some people would not sign??? and that has me stumped??? no reason was really ever givin by anyone some would just not reply and keep walking others a simple 'no thanks",,,,And 'YES' in our booth we made it a POINT to let people know this was not a telemarket sold list but one for the DNR.,,,
every one who signed got a sticker that we put on them so other people could clearly see and get curious about.
Im just trying to understand the mindset???
You came and paid to a "Muskie specific" show,,why wouldnt you want more lakes?? to me thats like traveling to a casino and not wanting to win???
the sign up stations were not all Muskies inc booths there were regular show booths too staffed with different people with different greetings.
I could understand it if it was a general sports show with everything lumped in camping,hunting,walleye,bass,trout fishing,,but this was a muskie specific show with muskie fisherman.
it wasnt like you walked in by accident?
To me its a puzzler??
or maybe not
is it just plain old Bystander apathy?
or maybe someone else has a slant Im not seeing ???
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| I was there on Saturday,I was one of the 25-40 % that didn't sign your petition...I pay NO attention to the loud speaker,I avoid Muskies Inc. like a cult...(Been there done that many times and have gotten nothing but put downs fron the club...) I went to EVERY booth ( except muskies inc), and NONE asked me to sign a petetion! I was there to shop for lures,and equipment,talk to friends in the fishing world and meet new people...I was NOT there for your cause! I live and fish in WI,I will not fish Mn again for many years... I wish you well in your cause,60% sign rate is pretty darn good!!!! |
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Location: Bemidji | I had three people that wouldnt sign the form. One guy was from WI and only fished Tonka and said that it didn't affect him. I further explained that the more lakes that got stocked the pressure would eventually decrease a little on the lake that he fished. It seemed like it was really hard for him to make decisions on other things so that didn't surprise me.
Another guy was very interested in the lakes that were being stocked and wanted the 5 additional lakes. He said, "Maybe next time." Didn't really understand that either. Another was with another big local retailer "Joe" and said that we would never get Long Lake stocked and turned around and walked back across the isle to his booth.
All three scenarios seemed odd but it isn't a requirement that they had to sign. So three out of the 200 plus isn't bad.
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| I think alot of people are just plain self centered and they just don't want to deal with it unfortunately! If they would just think about it for a split second they would realize it is all around better for everyone, less pressure on lakes having more lakes and in return just plain positively effects everything! |
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| Look at the total % of people who vote for ''our''president of the united states lol.
And I think you will find you did well. Some people won't vote for anything, Including things that matter to them.
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Location: Iowa Great Lakes | I signed at Kevins booth even though I'm from Iowa I still like the chance at new waters. |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | Seems like a no-brainer to me. If I were there, I would've signed. Why WOULDN'T you want to have additional stocked lakes...? |
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Location: Eagan, MN | I was there for a few hours on saturday, and I never saw a sign or heard a loudspeaker, and nobody asked me at any of the booths I visited. Guess I was too fixated on the booths w/ lures, gear, etc. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Got me a green sticker.
I was asked several times, but I was there for three days. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | OK,
I'm just going to be blunt, and say: ............some people are just selfish and don't want others to enter their comfort zone,.... and some people are just plain foolish for not wanting to help others
Jerome
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| Since we are being blunt.....................Some people just think they are Holier then thou and the world needs to fall in line with their thinking or there is something wrong with them.
Read some of the posts here and on the other site. If the post is contrary to the "normal" (whatever that is) thinking the guy gets lambasted and called a fool and worse. God forbid he justs enjoys fishing for Muskie. He needs all the release tools, he needs to hold the fish perfectly, the photo needs to happen in .5 seconds, ect. ect.
While Muskie Inc. and many, many here do a real good job, there are the few fanatical guys that really turn me off. I guessing I'm not alone either. I wasn't at the show so I don't know who was pushing what. Just remember not everybody marches to the same drummer as some people here.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It's a given folks will disagree. We do our very best to see to it they can do so reasonably. There's quite a community visiting here, and a city this size will contain folks of all stripes, so to speak. Wouldn't have it any other way, myself.
I was at the show, and the case as to why I should sign was properly and carefully presented. If I had said no, I'm absolutely certain no one would have given me a bit of trouble.
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Location: Alexandria, Minnesota | I signed the petition at the show and I would just like to applaud all of the guys that took the time out of the busy schedules to get as many signatures as they did. We need more fighters on our side if we are going to get these new waters, I know the dark house assocations are fighting us tooth and nail.
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Location: Detroint Lakes, MN |
Seems to me people should be able to seperate "fanatical" behavior that turns them off and supporting expanding muskie waters.
Nobody was asked to join MI or to change behavior in regards to muskie fishing.
Having bad feelings towards MI or other anglers shouldn't over-shadow supporting what makes sense for MN muskies and all muskie anglers who live and fish here.
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| john skarie - 4/14/2010 6:53 AM
Seems to me people should be able to seperate "fanatical" behavior that turns them off and supporting expanding muskie waters.
Nobody was asked to join MI or to change behavior in regards to muskie fishing.
Having bad feelings towards MI or other anglers shouldn't over-shadow supporting what makes sense for MN muskies and all muskie anglers who live and fish here.
JS
Well, there are a lot of things going on in people's lives today and some of us just like to fish...so when there is a constant request to send emails, fight for the cause, fight for expansion the enjoyment people seek in muskie fishing, the "getting away from it all" to just get out in nature and fish is diminished. It is not a crazed passion for everyone and the constant pressure of your not a good conservationist if you don't help me will erode at the support you previously enjoyed, especially during times that many just really need to be able to enjoy their time on the water or even just spending time with friends at the shows...BR |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I completely agree with Skarie....
So BenR signing a piece of paper in support of more musky waters is asking for too much and is somehow putting people out of time or money or anything because it just takes so much time to sign your name....BS imo... anyone who fishes for muskies whether it's 1 hour a year or 1000 should have signed the petition, no question about it... you may not like MI but this was not a MI thing...it's a musky fisherman petition
it's funny you say there are some that just want to go out and fish...um yah, it's funny that those same people will be some of the ones fishing the new lakes in MN when they get stocked from all the hard work and signatures on petitions like this done by others...
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I think the point is some people don't feel obligated to support one state's or anthers battles for muskie fishing issues, or may have other reasons not to sign. It's not 'BS', it's democracy at it's finest. It's the job of the folks who want that petition signed to sway those folks if they can, and not everyone will be.
As I said, they did a great job making sure I was comfortable signing. But, that's me, and I was there. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | Ok so I'm curious what reasons a musky fisherman would have not to sign a piece of paper for more musky waters...what are they? I'm being serious..I can't think of any...so enlighten me
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Social, political, personal.
As was pointed out, quite a few people don't vote during the election for the President of the United States.
Maybe an argument with some of the folks supporting this. Maybe some folks think the muskie stocking issue should be driven by fisheries professionals, not the 'public'. Maybe some folks don't like signing their name to something they don't completely understand or have had the chance to investigate. It could be any number of reasons. As I said, Democracy at it's finest. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hiya,
Guess I see it as Steve Worrall does. Regardless of how many said no, more people signed than if people were not there pushing for it. One more name is better than one less.
So a few chose not to...no problem and honestly, no real big deal either... I see it that more signatures were obtained which the more support the better.
Its all good people....the intent to get more signatures. The result...more signatures.... Success in my book!!
Thanks to those who asked me to support and sign. I'll be honest...I didn't even know they were there doing it until I was approached....and am glad they did.
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My point is directed towards those that come up with the "I don't like MI or the muskie elitists" responses.
I don't care who you like or don't like or why. This is about the fisheries that as fishermen I would assume we all like.
This isn't about being offended because you can't get along with MI members or think people shouldn't talk about fish handling topics that you don't agree with.
Not supporting something that you take full advantage of because you don't like somebody or a group of somebodies that do support it is simply childish.
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Location: APPLETON, WI | john skarie - 4/14/2010 9:48 AM ...Not supporting something that you take full advantage of because you don't like somebody or a group of somebodies that do support it is simply childish. JS I concur. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | John,
You just made Ben's point, IMO. One can't expect everyone to support everything and everybody some think they should. I've seen great ideas and projects shot down because some folks don't like/understand/know/whatever the people trying to get them done. We almost lost the 50" limit on Pelican to that sort of thing; it was a misinformation campaign, but enough people listened for us to lose the question state wide.
We won locally, so we should be OK. I hope the effort in MN is successful too, I see no reason why it shouldn't be if the DNR is solidly behind the goal of the petition. |
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| just to clarify,,,when I posted this its was in an attempt to 'learn' more about getting people to support these types of things in the future and what follows after something like this which is the next step-"public input meetings" and if we CAN learn more about getting people behind this-improve when the next step comes.
A few references to Presidential elections and the % of people who get involved,,,however with a presidential election lets face it you are NEVER sure what your going to end up with be it Democrat,Republican,independent . The thing for me that makes it such a slam dunk is that the DNR is behind these lakes and if we look at the performance record of the Minnesota DNR muskie program and the wonderful fishery they have established out of both large AND small bodies of water the % of this being just a big positive for Muskie anglers seems like a total win,win deal.
based on the "track" record and past perfomance if this was a Horse in the Belmont this would come off has a even money favorite. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Sometimes when you put a signature and address to a piece of paper you open yourself up to annoying e-mails, spam and phone calls. Not saying that would've happened here but it may have been a concern to some. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hiya,
I think to work on swaying more people is to get information from them first before bringing up the real point....find out where they stand as far as where they fish, how they fish, etc....gather more information before asking if they would like to help support the cause. I would be sure to include where the cause is based...as in this case the DNR is asking for input and looking to see if there would be enough support to move ahead with the proposed lakes.
I think much of it comes to approach....everyone is different, so getting a feel for what would work with the person at hand is a skill few have mastered...it's tough.
To be honest, (and....hindsight being 20/20) I think having a DNR fisheries manager or spokesperson there asking for input might have been helpful since for them, they really have no stake in it, other than to gather public input. They also would have the insight into the why, the overall plan for the lakes in question, etc. since they are put in charge of managing the fishery. In other words, I think they would be a little less biased in conversation, which can be a great tool in creating an environment that is maybe not so....."pushy" (for lack of a better word right now..)so to speak.
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| happy hooker - 4/14/2010 10:19 AM
just to clarify,,,when I posted this its was in an attempt to 'learn' more about getting people to support these types of things in the future and what follows after something like this which is the next step-"public input meetings" and if we CAN learn more about getting people behind this-improve when the next step comes.
A few references to Presidential elections and the % of people who get involved,,,however with a presidential election lets face it you are NEVER sure what your going to end up with be it Democrat,Republican,independent . The thing for me that makes it such a slam dunk is that the DNR is behind these lakes and if we look at the performance record of the Minnesota DNR muskie program and the wonderful fishery they have established out of both large AND small bodies of water the % of this being just a big positive for Muskie anglers seems like a total win,win deal.
based on the "track" record and past perfomance if this was a Horse in the Belmont this would come off has a even money favorite.
Well.... some muskie anglers are democrats and some are republicans and in Minnesota definatly some independants. lol. You could hold a white piece of paper up from across the room an some one would swear its black.
To expect 100% on anything is definatly positive, but not realistic.
Take the ball and run.
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Location: Eagan, MN | I just want to clarify... I would have happily signed it if I was aware of it. I know a lot of people put in a lot of work to get the signatures that they did and I applaud them.
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| Why don't we get more signatures from this site? Mail a letter in with a signature to support MN muskies. I signed it at the show, but I knew to do so before I got there. I don't remember hearing any announcements on the loud speaker about it. |
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Again, nobody was asking anyone to support MI or even like MI.
This is about supporting the fishery, plain and simple.
Not supporting something that is good because you don't like who thought of it is childish, I'll stand by that statement till the cows come home.
Slamr what do your comments about MI have to do with growing the muskie fishery in MN? This isn't an MI issue, you don't have to be a membe or like MI to support the fishery.
If you have issues with MI than as a member why don't you bring those out into the open within MI, and try to get what you feel is damaging changed? What is the point in coming out here and bringing up vague accusations how MI attitudes are damaging anyting?
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Location: APPLETON, WI | Baby Mallard - 4/14/2010 10:51 AM Why don't we get more signatures from this site? Mail a letter in with a signature to support MN muskies. I would definitely help in anyway that I could. I actually moved to Wisconsin from Minnesota. And I try and get back to MN waters a couple of times each summer... so I still fish the lakes within the Twin Cities each year. As I stated, I'd happily sign. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | MI was the organization working the petition I spoke to at the show. I saw the petition and signed in an MI booth, and a chapter 54 member made the rounds as well, by my memory, so I could see how some folks might think this is a MI petition.
I signed. I guess a couple didn't. I support their decision to not sign as much as I support the decision of those who signed, it's their signature, not mine or yours.
Happy H,
I think you folks did a great job. You won't get everyone, but if you educate those you approach for a signature and let them know why you need the signature, you won't lose many. |
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Location: New Hope MN | Put the dang petition up and I'll sign it. I didn't see it anywhere at the show. |
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| The only real surprise is that Hooker posted his question on here and didn't expect this to turn into a bashing MN thread.
Skaries comments are 100% correct when it comes to childish attitudes and reasons not to support this initiative. Can't we start a different thread to complain about MI, Minnesota Musky elitists, and how MN fishermen should blame ourselves first?
Again, M1st falls way short when it counts.
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Location: Pittsburgh | BNelson - 4/14/2010 7:44 AM
Ok so I'm curious what reasons a musky fisherman would have not to sign a piece of paper for more musky waters...what are they? I'm being serious..I can't think of any...so enlighten me
Mr nelson you asked so I will answer honestly.If I attended that show I would not visit the booth to sign the petition.here a FEW bad apples through such bad behavior,make me just stay away.  |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Really..this is a MN bashing thread? Where, exactly?
If a person doesn't want to sign a petition for ANY reason, it's their personal choice, not MuskieFIRST's or JS's or yours. It's your job and JS's and the rest of the folks presenting the petition to convince those on the fence to sign. I signed the petition, and I'm glad I did.
Please define MuskieFIRST (in the context of MuskieFIRST 'falling short') for me, I'm curious what your perception might be.
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| john skarie - 4/14/2010 9:48 AM
My point is directed towards those that come up with the "I don't like MI or the muskie elitists" responses.
I don't care who you like or don't like or why. This is about the fisheries that as fishermen I would assume we all like.
This isn't about being offended because you can't get along with MI members or think people shouldn't talk about fish handling topics that you don't agree with.
Not supporting something that you take full advantage of because you don't like somebody or a group of somebodies that do support it is simply childish.
JS
That about sums up MY opinion on the subject. I would think anyone who likes fishing would sign a petition to help ANY fishing ANYWHERE no matter what they think of this or that organization or group of people.
And for those of you who "just like to go out and fish"... Do you like that there are fish to catch in the places you enjoy? How do you think they got there? |
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Location: MPLS, MN | I signed but some people don't want anyone to have their info I'd guess, just goofy like that. Guy I know said no but the reason was he already signed at the sports show but he didn't explain that to you guys. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | addict,
What if the petition was at a sports show passed around by folks opposed to stocking muskies because they feel the population of other gamefish is more important and needs attention; demanding that money be added to the stocking for those lakes for walleyes? Should I sign that as an uninformed show attendee? That's any fishing, anywhere, right?
Some ideas for the next time:
Post the Petition in LARGE print for folks to read at several locations in the show, basically a poster and/or hand out informational cards telling folks what the goal is. VERY important on that card or poster; explain why a petition is necessary. If the DNR supports this effort, logic would lead one to believe they are not the target of the petition and there's some other battle which could lead some to decline signing until they understand it better...so what group IS the target of the petition? Why? Write a press release and send it to any media asking them to publish. Same information as above. In ALL media, stay to the high ground and stay positive. Admit there are other interests out there, and that your petition is designed to educate first as to the benefits of your goals, and the long term positive effects. Answer any objections out there, even those of your opposition, carefully and politely.
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| steve, why don't you just call and have them cross you signature off. do you ever get tired of straddling the fence? i can't even believe what i'm reading here, but it's all the same BS we've read here many times before.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Guest - 4/14/2010 12:08 PM
steve, why don't you just call and have them cross you signature off. do you ever get tired of straddling the fence? i can't even believe what i'm reading here, but it's all the same BS we've read here many times before.
it's a black and white issue
and for a moment there I felt bad about what I said about MI members (and then deleted my comments).
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 'steve, why don't you just call and have them cross you signature off. do you ever get tired of straddling the fence? i can't even believe what i'm reading here, but it's all the same BS we've read here many times before. it's a black and white issue'
I stated my opinion. I signed the petition and was happy to do so. It's not my position editorially to tell everyone here they HAVE to think like I do. First, that never works well. Second, there's far more effective methods of winning over folks to a particular line of thought, and your technique definitely ain't one of 'em.
I do my best to inform and offer information/data to support my position. I'm not on the fence, I voted. I support the expansion of Muskie waters in MN. If everyone visiting this website had as strong feelings on the issue as I, there would be 200,000 signatures on that petition.
Another point you seem to have missed, the question was: Why did some folks not sign the petition?
Not: Why should the petition be signed?
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Location: Hudson, WI | I signed at Cochran's booth even though I fish Minnesota waters about 3 times a year (other than the Croix). The only reason I signed was because, honestly, how much time does it take to sign a piece of paper? I'll never fish any of them. But hell, if a guy's putting in his time and is willing to work to get new musky water in their state, great. |
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| sworrall - 4/14/2010 12:02 PM
addict,
What if the petition was at a sports show passed around by folks opposed to stocking muskies because they feel the population of other gamefish is more important and needs attention; demanding that money be added to the stocking for those lakes for walleyes? Should I sign that as an uninformed show attendee? That's any fishing, anywhere, right?
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Well, I like to eat walleyes, so I might not be right the person to answer that question. I trust the DNR biologists to know how to maintain quality fishing for ALL species, so as long as the science behind the proposal is sound I'd support NOT stocking muskies too. But like I said -- I might be the wrong person to ask that question, because while I love muskie fishing, I also like catching Pike, Bass, Walleyes, etc. |
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Well, I like to eat walleyes, so I might not be right the person to answer that question. I trust the DNR biologists to know how to maintain quality fishing for ALL species, so as long as the science behind the proposal is sound I'd support NOT stocking muskies too. But like I said -- I might be the wrong person to ask that question, because while I love muskie fishing, I also like catching Pike, Bass, Walleyes, etc.
So...in other words...you support what Steve says about exercising one's right to not sign a petition...
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| Muskies don't necessarily damage other fisheries by their presence alone. They don't eat a lot of walleyes, or "ruin" the fishing for other species. But they do cost a lot of money, and if stocking dollars are diverted from other species to the muskie effort, that WILL affect the other species of fish. Personally I think MN needs a few more muskie lakes. If the guys who fish there regularly aren't just making up stories about the amount of pressure, I think it's a good idea. My point is that as an angler, I'd support better angling opportunities across the board, because good fishing is good fishing no matter where you are or what you are fishing for. |
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| Guest - 4/14/2010 11:26 AM
The only real surprise is that Hooker posted his question on here and didn't expect this to turn into a bashing MN thread.
Guest,,,,I'd be glad to give you an answer but can you expand on that?,,, because NO I dont see the relationship
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| VMS - 4/14/2010 1:48 PM
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So...in other words...you support what Steve says about exercising one's right to not sign a petition...
Of course I do. I just don't understand why any well informed muskie angler would NOT want to support more muskie lakes in MN. And from what I'm hearing here, the reasons are that people don't want to be bothered, or they don't like muskies inc, or they don't like being told how to release their fish... I support anyone's right to stand wherever they want on an issue, but when their reasons for their stance aren't based on logic and facts I question their motivation.
"I hate muskies inc." is not a legitimate reason not to support stocking additional lakes.
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| Actually the thought of having a 'stand alone' petition booth at the expo crossed my mind before the expo in a post I put on the fishingminnesota.com muskie section,,,however it just didnt make sense ,,The promotor would have had to make another free space,,,you would have had to find people to staff it everyday,,having the petitions spaced out between MI booths meant you wouldnt have to line up at one booth for the limited table space and staff,,and it isnt an MI issue anyway-its the 5 new lakes proposal by the dnr
PERM had a booth but this isnt really their thing
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Location: Grand Forks ND | I was at the show Friday night and Saturday for a seminar and don't remember hearing anything on the loud speaker. I think I walked by a couple MI booths and was never asked by anyone to sign anything.
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | It took me less than fifteen seconds to sign. I'm not going to get any more emails or phone calls than before. It didn't cost me a thing and the petitiion is definitely in my best interests. A no-brainer to say the least.
As to why some people refused to sign, I think some people just like to be contrary. But if they are going to be contrary to something like Muskie stocking while at the same time claiming to be Muskie fishermen, maybe they should fish for something else? Seems like they are making very contrary decisions at best.
Some people are like that. They make decisions that simply make no sense at all. There is little or no logic to their decisions and they often seem to do things that seem self-destructive to most everyone else. And at the same time they always have ways to justify it to themselves.
Sounds like a lot of people signed. I wouldn't worry about those who refused. Just let them be contrary.
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| I cant tell you how many I got to sign I really don't know for certain, one thing is for sure no-one pushed anyone into anything, I had 2 out of all of those say no.
One was a lure maker, I wont say who but I was surprised, the other a Darkhouse spearer that Muskie fishes.
I listened to all of his concerns, we talked for I suppose 8-10 min, turns out he would like more lakes but doesn't trust the DNR to not put a spearing ban on the new lakes. We discussed allot of aspects and views, I told him how to find the Muskie Faq page and he stated he wanted to read the info and make a educated decision.
We shook hands while exchanging names thanked each other and went back to doing our thing at the show.
The people that signed I cant thank you enough, I love to talk to people about the fish, I like to promote the fish.
I especially enjoy those who wont sign for a reason or don't like Muskies for a reason, they have taught me plenty.
I always let the fire burn down and look for the logic, some are not logical and without reason they are anti-muskie automatons that cant be reached from earth.
Edited by Muskiefool 4/15/2010 12:17 AM
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Location: WI | I was planning on signing it but must not have seen where to do it. I thought it would be near the enterance. It was also the first time I went with another person so we kept distracting each other running around trying to find specific booths.
I had trouble hearing the loudspeaker. I really wish the show was still in Blaine, I don't like the St Paul layout or parking at all. |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | I was there from open to close on Saturday and didn't hear it mentioned once on the load speaker. I'm sure it was mentioned there several times. But for others like me, I didn't pay attention to loud speaker announcements so I didn't hear anything that was said there. There were a number of guys asking everyone that they could if they wanted to sign. But I didn't notice anyone that was "pushing" it on anyone.
For anyone that didn't get a chance to sign and still wants to support the proposals that are out there, here is the DNR FAQ page on the subject with links to all of the actual proposals.
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/fish/muskellunge/muskiefaq.html
I don't have DNR Commissioner Holsten's contact info handy. But I'm sure someone else can supply that so you can let him know you appreciate the efforts of the DNR and support their proposals for stocking new waters in the state.
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Location: Ames, Iowa | Dang guys, lighten up.
Maybe some didn't like the idea of leaving a phone #. Maybe some didn't sign because they're in the witness protection program. Maybe some who were there are wanted. Who cares? 60% is pretty dang good. Can you get the petition on line here at M1st? I'll sign it. I live in IA and have a place in MN. By the way, I'd love to bash Minnesota.....I'm a 49er fan. : )
Season's just around the corner fellas. |
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Location: Bloomington, MN | What are the 5 proposed lakes? |
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