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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | I see a lot of comments on this board and others how so many people don't want people flocking to THEIR lake. I guess my questions is, where are they supposed to go? |
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Location: MN | Your lake. Lol |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Illinois? 
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I really don't mind "my" bigger lakes sucking up boats. I encourage it on Pelican and Three Lakes. There are tons of spots on both and plenty of fish to go around. I expect the boat landing on Pelican to be full all of July and August.
When I go to the smaller 100-500 acre lakes I admit, I get a bit cranky when there are a couple of rigs at the landing. I guess I prefer to keep those quieter. We are fortunate in northern WI, lots of lakes and it seems as if most of the pressure has headed a bit east. |
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Location: Wausau | Exactly...if their lake turned into your lake and now is my lake, who's lake is it really? |
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Location: MN | Grimm it's OUR lake! |
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Location: Minnetonka | Amen Timmy. Can't we all just get along?  |
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| Last summer I was fishing from shore with my son for bass, when a guy came trolling by the same spot we were fishing in his $30.000 rig. I asked him ''how is your luck'' no responce. Just then I got a strike and I swore I heard him mumble ''Get off MY lake'' I am gratefull to the people who help clean up and stock OUR beautiful lakes beyond words! But just because you have more time to fish, or spend more money on a boat and gear than me. Does not make them yours.
My $.02 cents worth. And to some of you my opinion doesn't matter because I'm standing from shore. |
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Location: New Hope MN | I think if people practiced a little more fishing etiquette, there would be less griping. If I'm fishing a small hump/weedline/point, you should probably wait for me to finish. It's not polite to jump in front of me and start casting.
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| Interesting subject.
Let's be honest - the muskie community is small and word travels. A good portion of guys will hear about a bite on a certain lake and migrate there. More times then not they do not experience the same success as those that really know that water.
Some of the big lakes in MN can absorb this kind of pressure and certain bites are well known.
What really rubs me wrong is when dudes see pics on the internet or hear about it and all of sudden start showing up on the lake you have been fishing. Why not pick a couple bodies of water and learn your own patterns? People that follow hot bites on smaller bodies of water (not the monster lakes in MN) are average fisherman and will never get better. They do not think for themselves - they just follow and sit on spots that you fish, making it difficult for you to do what you want. Hell, I konw of guys that have printed pics off of the internet and went out on certain bodies of water to find spots. How lame is that?
I think when people say "their" lakes they are referring to the ones the fish a lot. Some people lake jump - others hunker down and learn a body of water really well. My money is on the guy that spends time on a certain body of water and doesn't chase bites.
I guess I would do it to if I had no confidence in my ability to catch fish.
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Location: Minnetonka | guest - 1/15/2010 9:12 AM
People that follow hot bites on smaller bodies of water (not the monster lakes in MN) are average fisherman and will never get better. They do not think for themselves - they just follow and sit on spots that you fish, making it difficult for you to do what you want.
JJ
... orrrrr they are guys who see a hot lake/system/pattern as an opportunity to follow the average anglers and outfish them.
guest - 1/15/2010 9:12 AM
I guess I would do it to if I had no confidence in my ability to catch fish.
JJ
Trying new lakes and perhaps coming to YOUR lake is how we learn more about muskie fishing as a whole. I'd feel like I was missing out if I only fished my "home range."
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| I agree with the above statement from Guest
"Let's be honest - the muskie community is small and word travels. A good portion of guys will hear about a bite on a certain lake and migrate there. More times then not they do not experience the same success as those that really know that water."
If people don't want their lakes over fished then don't post pcitures or brag about where your fish were caught. |
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| If you dont want anyone fishing where you are fishing...
Dont guide
Dont put it on the internet
Dont tell anybody
Fish by yourself
Dont fish at all
Then you can't complain if someone is on your lake, because just like you, they probably found out about it on their own. I really don't think there is a single person out there that hasn't gone to a lake they heard about from someone else tho... or chased a hot bite at least once.
I'd rather fish in Illinois than anywhere in the U.S., so if you see me out on your lake, don't worry, I won't be there long
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | nwild - 1/15/2010 7:43 AM
We are fortunate in northern WI, lots of lakes and it seems as if most of the pressure has headed a bit east.
Holy crap, apparently I didn't have enough coffee before typing this gem. West...west is where the herds are traveling to.
I need a compass! |
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Location: Minnetonka | 2T Critter - 1/15/2010 9:45 AM
If people don't want their lakes over fished then don't post pictures or brag about where your fish were caught.
Right on. Would it hurt to say "Lake X" instead of Lake Minnetonka or Lake Vermilion? Coincidentally these are some of the most pressured lakes in the universe. |
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Location: Stevens Point, Wi. | I like fishing Norm's spots on Norm's lake |
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Location: McGuire AFB, NJ | Lets be real, none of the lakes in questions are owned by anyone. Any fisherman should be able to fish anywhere or any lake they please.
If you don't want people fishing your waters...keep it quiet. Loose lips...sink ships! And if someone does show up on a lake that your fishing, owell! Its their right.
I am a firm beliver in fishing etiquette. Does everybody follow it...NOPE! I'm sure at one time we have all encountered these individuals. I've even echanged words with a few boats. The sport is only getting bigger, regardless people talk and people are going to show up on waters that you wouldn't normally see them on. It's the nature of the beast.
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Location: Pickering, ON | Stay out of Canada!
LOL, seriously though, when I read about what you guys put up with on the water sometimes, it makes me feel so lucky.
Sure, we get the odd pleasure boating a**hole doing a high speed fly-by way too close, but by and large it is a rare day that I see more than one or two other musky boats on any of our lakes here. A crowded spot would be four walleye/panfish boats fishing off a hump at sunset, and there tend to only be one or two of those "communal" spots on most lakes, leaving the rest wide open. |
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Location: IL | Reelwise hit it right on the head.
You guys that don't want people fishing "your lakes"... guess what? Guys were there fishing them long before you ever were, so I guess you're fishing "their lakes". |
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| Slamr - 1/15/2010 7:00 AM
I see a lot of comments on this board and others how so many people don't want people flocking to THEIR lake. I guess my questions is, where are they supposed to go?
Away.
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Location: Anchorage | I don't mind other bait washers on MY RIVER; I just fish it when they aren't there. |
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Location: MN | I just want all of you to know that Lake Minnetonka is MY LAKE; so please stay off. Thanks.
The big question, does anyone openly invite and want pressure being directed to their waters? Some waters I fish, it doesn't really bother me, other waters it makes me ..... upset. Much of this depends on how well the body of water can absorb the increased pressure.
Can Lake Minnetonka & Mille Lacs absorb a lot of pressure? Yes. Do I get upset when another boat pulls onto Hennepin Island on Mille Lacs? No.
Can Little Lake X in central MN? or River X in Northern WI? handle a large influx of pressure of musky fisherman? I don't think so without impacting the fishery.
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| Ghoti likes Norm's spots on Norm's lakes, I just like Norm. Norm is cool! He is so cool I watched him hand line a 44 incher on LOTW last summer. I am still in awe.
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Location: Stevens Point, Wi. | 2T- you should have him show you his landing technique on beavers! |
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Location: IL | LOL! I remember reading about that one. LOL!  |
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Just wondering, because that happened to us up on LOTW a couple years ago and thats what we named the spot... if you can think of one better let me know! lol |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | hmmm. . . i was going to say, lol.
To that point, thanks to Maina's Top Wisconsin Musky Lakes, to the West they go, in search of gold.
Myself, I too feel urgency when I launch a small sleeper when I see half of a rig sitting in the little 5 car lots. . . As if there's any need to rush. What is that? Is it only me? |
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| It also has to be gauged by what type of status and venue your relaying info through
If Im at the landing and talking to a handfull of guys naming water
theres a big difference between someone with a microphone,regular magazine column, or TV camera man naming water,
I can whisper "fire" in a crowded room and a couple people will look
I can get on the public address and yell "FIRE" and cause the whole room to head to one place-the door |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | happy hooker - 1/15/2010 11:05 AM
I can whisper "fire" in a crowded room and a couple people will look
I can get on the public address and yell "FIRE" and cause the whole room to head to one place-the door
Couldn't say it better myself. |
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Location: Minneconia | Ahhh the infamous "guest"....go away |
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| Ghoti-
Norm's beaver adventure was described in vivid detail and the actual location of the incident was revealed the same I day I witnessed the hand landing. It was an incredible day, one I will never forget. |
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Location: Ontario | Totally agree with the STAY OUT OF CANADA statement. It is unreal the stuff you guys have to put up with. Jeff said it right about up here...I am surprised when I see another musky guy and alwyas go over and chat with them if its possible. Its like we have a bond even though we have never and will probably not meet again. |
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Location: Brookfield, WI | When I fished with Norm, the fish we caught, okay the fish Mike Phelps caught, just unhooked themselves and stood up for a picture when Norm looked at them. He knows most of the Pelican and Three Lakes fish personally.
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Location: Suburban Chicago | Sorry boys, I HAVE to fish YOUR LAKE
My lake sucks. It is pounded mercilessly all day long by everyone.
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| ahh yes Cheech... good ol' Shabbona? |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | 2T Critter - 1/15/2010 2:00 PM
Ghoti-
Norm's beaver adventure was described in vivid detail and the actual location of the incident was revealed the same I day I witnessed the hand landing. It was an incredible day, one I will never forget.
2T, Just keep the rodent hotspot under your hat. I don't mind guys fishing my musky spots, but if I catch one on one of MY beaver haunts...look out! |
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| Norm,
I would never give up any of your rodent spots. I hope one day I am lucky enough to be in the same boat as you when you hook into another large dark brown furry rodent. I would be your net man, I would even grab the line if I had to. |
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| Norm,
I would never give up any of your rodent spots. I hope one day I am lucky enough to be in the same boat as you when you hook into another large dark brown furry rodent. I would be your net man, I would even grab the line if I had to. |
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| I agree! Some waters are more suited to handle pressure than others! Yes, Tonka gets a huge amount of pressure but it also gets a huge amount of stocking! Lets keep in mind that some of the lakes in question are pure stocked fisheries! As long as stocking, management and CPR practices grow with the pressure the sport can be sustained. Pressure and angler surveys have caused the MNDNR to consider 5 new waters. We all win! I have no problem fishing busy water as long as I have options and can still find a secret little honey hole somewhere close! P.S. Mak51 I thought tonka was mine and I shared it with Hammskie! |
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| The next World Record will come from Lac Deux Montagnes ( Lake of Two Mountains ) come fish a great Lake .
Dale |
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Location: Land of the Musky | That is why I will be building my own little 4 acre "lake" next year. 4 musky, 4 pike, bass, crappie, walleye and some catfish. Then I just have to wait for 20 years to catch my 50" ! lol |
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Location: Watertown, MN | Ben you should know better, that is my lake, yes tonka gets stocked, but it does not get a huge stocking. It gets the same fish per acre as every other lake in MN. In past years till recently with TC MI chapter stepping up to help meet quotas on the lake, it was coming up short of DNR quota. Cool thing is there is a study being done by DNR with pit and floy tags to study the results of stocking yearling versus 1.5 old. That is why we are working hard to get our Banquet in order to pay for these studies and purchase these fish that everyone takes for granted because it is a public water. This year alone the MN Muskie Inc Chapters are spending $10,000 alone for muskie feeders for the Waterville Hatchery, plus we have I believe another $15,000+ allocated to fish, tags, and other expense just for the fisheries.
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Location: WI | I don't mind if they fish my home water, just not while I'm on it. And if I am, please be respectful and don't follow me around or cut me off. |
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| OK I'll share with you too troy! I simply meant Tonka is currently being stocked(every other year, I believe) and it is a pure stocked fishery. It can handle more pressure than lakes in northern MN that are natural fisheries with less aggressive stocking in years past! I have no problem with the pressure on Tonka; in fact I'd like to invite every musky hunter on Tonka to join me for free beer every night this summer! Meet me at Fletchers right at sunset!
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| Ben, lets just meet at Maynard's for a little younger action. |
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| promusky63 - 1/15/2010 6:39 PM
The next World Record will come from Lac Deux Montagnes ( Lake of Two Mountains ) come fish a great Lake .
Dale
Been there done that, no world records there. |
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| Maynard's is fine as long as its right at sunset! |
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Location: Watertown, MN | Ben and u r buying right. Yes it is stocked, but number of harvested there yearly, had member have to defend himself when releasing a mid 40, so guys board his boat cause the wanting to keep it. So watch out for the pirates of tonka
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Location: MN | Fine, I guess Troyz, Ben, Hammskie too, and maybe Bturg, and Josh, Jeff, and .... we can all share partial ownership of the Local Pond. However, now we need to figure out how we can get the other "owners" off the lake and make them stay in their mansions.
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| yeah well Ive been on tonka since 65 and kindergarden,,,so get off my lake!!! got a powerball tonite and when it hits buyin up Maynards,Sunsets Fletchers and the mound VFW like a big monoploly game,,so ya cant even stay on shore eiither!!!!!! |
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Location: MN | Mak51 - 1/16/2010 9:17 AM
Fine, I guess Troyz, Ben, Hammskie too, and maybe Bturg, and Josh, Jeff, and .... we can all share partial ownership of the Local Pond. However, now we need to figure out how we can get the other "owners" off the lake and make them stay in their mansions.
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The local pond is mine you guys may come and fish is just call and let me know you'll be out |
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Location: Mayer, MN | Tonka for me too. Guess we're going to have to learn to share. |
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Location: Minnetonka | Okay... see you at Sunsets at moonrise and Ben is buying a sponsor dinner.
I don't fish Tonka much. I fish Lake X, Johnsonville, and mostly just YOUR lake. |
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| I guess my only beef is when a "guide" goes out of state to speak at Musky Inc meetings and sells a lake they've never been to...apparently trying to keep visitors off his home water. Then, when I go to the lake I normally fish, I meet people from out of state that heard about it from him. He's never fished it!!! It's not that good, it's just good because nobody else fishes it and it's peaceful. |
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If Not YOUR Lake, Then Where?