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Location: MN | Did anybody see the new 12" phantoms this weekend and could you post a pic if you got one. The MN show isn't till April and I need to see them. |
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| Todd is going to be at the St. Paul Sports show. I saw them listed in the tackle area.
http://stpaulsportshow.com/tackle.html
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Location: MN | Same Here... can't make the St. Paul show but I am itching to see the new 12" size and show custom colors. |
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Location: Hubbard, Iowa | I would like to see the baits also. went to the chicago show but he wasn't there. It was a good show as usual. bought a few baits and had a blast at the swap meet. |
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Location: sun prairie,wi | maybe milwaukee???????? |
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Location: Minneapolis | A 12" phantom? I'm sure it will look incredible in the water and get more than its share of strikes, but will it ever hook and hold a fish? I lose so many with 8" phantoms, I shudder to think what the catch ratio would be with one that weighs half again as much. |
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Location: MN | rpike I'm not trying to start a fight or call you a liar but I can olny think of one fish that I've lost on a 8"phantom and I don't think any lure would have held that jumping little spaz. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Hi Tim,
First off I LOVE the phantoms, easily my favorite glider. But I, too, have a horrible hook-up ratio. Do you let them take it for a second or set right away? Or twitch the bait hard enough to set hooks? Set when you see the strike or feel it?
BTW, I will be getting a few 12" regardless. |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | My guess is that it isn't the bait causing problems as much as it is the hook. There's lots of flex in those 3/0 RB hooks before they penetrate past the barb. Depending on your hookset style you may be more prone to loosing fish. If you are loosing a lot of fish I would try a different hook. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Do you T yours? |
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Location: Norway | Heres a 12" Phantom. Next to a monster Mag and other pic. next to an 8" and a 10" Smuttly. This was a collectors item once (I think) and Im not sure if its this he is now gonna sell.
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| Hey guys heres the scoop on the new phantoms I talk to Todd on a regular basis
the NEW 12 inc phantom is not ready yet,,most likely by MILW show,,for sure at Minn show
only 250 total will be made,,125 solid,,,125 soft tail,,,however RIGHT now Todd is at the St paul sports show through sunday and he does have a sample of the new 12 on display and he IS taking orders,,,,Todd is here today[weds] but he will not be back again till sat,,thurs and fri the booth will be manned by other people but the 12 will be on display
also
there is a new 9 inch phantom in both models
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the new 4 inch phantom,,,dont discount the little guy Ive seen it and it looks like worlds first "burning" glidebait.
i told him about this thread and he will try to get a photo of the new baits up..or some enterprising person could stop by the booth this weekend and photo it and get it on here
Edited by happy hooker 1/13/2010 3:15 PM
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Location: Minneapolis | Flambeauski - 1/13/2010 3:20 PM
Hi Tim,
First off I LOVE the phantoms, easily my favorite glider. But I, too, have a horrible hook-up ratio. Do you let them take it for a second or set right away? Or twitch the bait hard enough to set hooks? Set when you see the strike or feel it?
BTW, I will be getting a few 12" regardless.
I love phantoms, too, and I have an 8" that's money (I'm pretty sure I could get a follow in my bathtub with it, and probably even get the fish to hit), but unless I really need it's magic mojo, I throw something else, because fish throw it so easily. With 6" phantoms, I don't have that problem.
My hook-up ratio is better when I work the 8" slower, but it's still not very good, and my number of strikes is higher when I work it more erratically.
Interesting comment about hook styles. I tried pinching the barbs on one of my 8" phantoms, and my catch-to-strike ratio was still about 50%.
Edited by rpike 1/13/2010 4:51 PM
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Location: MN | My order is in for a 12" Squirrelly! 
A good friend is at the St. Paul show right now and gave me the run down. Sounds like they are $50 and come in all current and new patterns. You can put in an order now and pick them up at the MN Musky Expo. As noted by Happy Hooker, there is a limited supply being made.
Edited by Mak51 1/13/2010 6:35 PM
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Location: MN | I would say that 90% of my fish on them come within 10ft of the boat so I can usualy see them hit then I wait just a second then hammer those hooks home. I guess I never knew they were a poor hooking bait now I'll prob miss all my phantom fish. I do think I'll NEED at least 2 12" in crappie soft tail and reg. |
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Location: sun prairie,wi | where can i make my orders to get one.....or two |
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| are the 12" baits plastic or wood? |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | The 9" and 12" are all going to be made of wood. If they go over well they'll likely go to a mold so they can go to plastic in the future.
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| Just got back from the sportsman's show. Todd told me the 9" should be in regular production before the season, so you don't necessarily have to order one ahead of time. If you really want a 12" I would probably pre-order it to ensure you get one. I can't wait for mine, definitely a big fish bait.
Matt
Edited by mbani 1/13/2010 9:42 PM
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Location: Lebanon,Mo | Todd and Mark are great guys and kinda glad they didnt make Chicago as my wallet was begging for mercy.I still need one...or three. |
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| When will the 4" be avalible to the masses?
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Location: sun prairie,wi | looking to get acouple if 12"im going to be at the milwaukee show.... |
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Location: MN | Hey guys, I just got off the phone with Todd from phantom and you can pre order over the phone if you can't make it to the shows. He said there olny makeing 250 of them and they will all be # and demand is high so don't miss out on your chance to get in on these sweet limited production baits. |
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Location: sun prairie,wi | tim do you know the price..... |
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Location: MN | $50 bucks Todd said that if they sell all of these they will more probly make a mold but that wouldent be till next year. I'm so jacked up to get my crappie and hot whitefish I don't know if I can wait till the MN expo. |
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| Saw the 12" today at the MN show....good grief that is a giant bait! I can only imagine the splash that thing makes when it hits the water. |
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| Anyone have any input on performance differences between the Phantoms that are made with wood vs. the ones made with plastic? I own an 8'' plastic one that tends to role on its sides while gliding. Definitely different action than my other gliders. wasn't sure if this is a quality of the plastic phantoms, phantoms in general, or my specific phantom.
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Whats the web site ? I might need to get a couple of those 12 inchers.
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Location: syracuse indiana | http://www.phantomlures.com/ |
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Location: Aurora, IL. | Dan,
I own a lot of Phantoms, use them a ton. If your experiencing the roll on the glide I would check two things:
1) Check to be sure the eyelet on the front of the bait is perfectly horizontal.
2) Check to be sure the hooks were assembled with the proper alignment, the back of the hook should lay flat when you hold the bait verticle.
If your speaking of the Phantom softails make sure the post in the rear of the bait that holds the tail is as straight as possible. Then make sure the tail is in the proper position. I like the mold seem of the tail facing straight up.
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Im sure the roll on your bait is not right but some phantoms have unusual carracteristics. A few of the baits in my phantom arsenal act slightly different than the rest. I cant explain it but often that is the bait that gets eaten. Sometimes what I think is the proper action the fish prove me wrong.
By the way, its the back and forth roll on the pause and hang that they just cant resist.
Hope this helps!
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| Definitely helpful Joe. Thanks for the info.
Dan |
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| Any info or pics of the custom colors? |
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| Any updates on when these will be ready!? |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | I love glide baits! I'm not fussy or hungup on the name of any brand. I try them all for a couple years and if the lure produces it stays if it doesn't it goes. The hookup ratio on glides in my experience can be low, especially if the fish are off a couple notches. The comment about the hooks is super valid in my opinon. Changing out the hooks can change the bait action and the hookup ratio. I have one glide made by a guy in Longville back in the 70's that I bought for $5.00. That was allot back then! That bait is ugly, and I cannot see anything it does in the water different from other baits and yet it has boated close to 100 fish for me. On the other side of the coin, myson and I fished the Gil Hamm event last year on Leech and expected to catch 4-5 fish. We had four on and lost all four! Pace and the style of the hookset used were the two major contributors we came up with. |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | I forgot to add I have a buddy that I get together with and fish for Skis every three to four years. He brings all his dog lures and I bring mine. We swap group for group and every time we both end up with baits that flat out produce for us! I don't know what that means, but we're on for the 6th or 7th trade out this year and both of us are looking forward to the new baits! |
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Location: deephaven mn | hopefully they all sell out before the minnesota show, so i will have an extra $50 for gas this summer |
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