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| Just wanted to let everyone know that Keyes Outdoors is back on the air. Saturday mornings at 8:00 am on FSN. Tune in for some awesome musky action this season. There will be lots of new and exciting action this season from new products to new and exciting big fish action. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | It was Fox Sports North, but that name was changed. Here in Madison its on Fox Sports Wisconsin. |
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| You can also watch all there best shows that air on FSN on the Keyes Outdoors web after they air on FSN. |
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| like the show and very nice people associated with it.
however can we not name llakes,rivers etc weve seen the pressure come from it |
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| We thank you for the opinion and will work to do a better job with those airings. |
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Location: N.FIB | DPB - 1/5/2010 2:07 PM
have a link to this
You can also watch all there best shows that air on FSN on the Keyes Outdoors web after they air on FSN. |
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Location: Birchwood, WI. | SWEET!!!!!!! GREAT SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks guys ! |
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Any word when the new episodes will be up on the site? |
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| How do you watch the episodes on the website? I see the list, but nowhere to click to play. |
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| Trying to say this in the nicest possible way, but the first two episodes weren't all that great, IMO.
First was a tournament episode, second was short clips of fish caught on specific baits.....strokin' sponsors. Which I understand, gotta know where your bread is buttered. Totally understand that.
Definitely not big on the tournament coverage shows. I just frankly find them really boring. They take away from the one thing that Keyes really does better than everyone else, which is the "eye in the sky" start-to-finish catch footage until someone picks up the other camera. Between that and the F8 footage, that's really Keyes' best quality. Filming people measuring and posing with fish during tourneys is not overly stimulating.
I understand it's probably easy footage, near-guaranteed fish footage, etc., and provides for a good filler show once or twice in the rotation, but man are they boring. And the crew rarely catches much during them. |
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Location: Minneconia | I disagree, I love the tournament coverage shows.
My favorite episode ever has to be the WI creek outing last year or two years ago...awesome show. |
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| You know, I thought Keyes show was one of the best. I always looked forward to seeing it weekly cause they always did things a little different. But the last couple of episodes ( and a few from last year) have been very boring. I, personally, tune in to see the keyes crew catch fish, not see a bunch of dink fish caught by other tournament anglers. It's like a tourny show now. I found myself turning it off. I liked their old stuff like fishing the bad river in wisconsin and other unknown spots. Don't get me wrong I am not trying to bash them I personally just think they are going int he wrong direction with the show. I think they should go back to their "roots" and do it the way they used to. my$.02 |
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| I agree with the last few posts...not a big fan of the tourney coverage neither. The "roots" as one said, is where I'd hope they would return. Good action, very cool music and crazy attitude!
I do have that show (along with MH and Bucher) DVR'd, but I find myself deleting most of them now...I still watch a few of the good ones from last year though. |
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| 2nd show was nothing more than an infomercial imo. It has gone down hill.
Not a big fan of the camera work either. Couldn't Mike get a buddy to film him instead of the tripod thing and only one guy in the boat for that one show/segment? Use to be better produced imo.
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| riverski - 1/13/2010 9:47 AM
I liked their old stuff like fishing the bad river in wisconsin and other unknown spots. Don't get me wrong I am not trying to bash them I personally just think they are going int he wrong direction with the show. I think they should go back to their "roots" and do it the way they used to. my$.02
The problem lies in that because of shows like this, there simply are not as many unknowns left to fish and promise good footage. I'd prefer they stick to the tourney footage, rather than the little unknowns, myself. |
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| Full disclosure: I am a Keyes Outdoors pro-staffer. Tournament muskie fishing is, by nature, hard to cover. However, KO is the only outlet for the premier tournament trail in our sport, the PMTT. IMO that fact makes it "air-worthy". Tournament anglers and the PMTT love the coverage! That said, Mike is aware of the fact that its not for everybody and will be making large scale changes in his tournament coverage for the 2010 PMTT season! Also keep in mind that forums like this one do not fall on deaf ears! Please feel free to make suggestions about what you'd like to see and myself and others will do our best to pass them along to Mike! As for this season; stay tuned and you will see all the classic skycam and f8 footage that has continued to set Keyes Outdoors apart! Now that the business is taken care of some strong episodes are on tap...including a two-parter with fast action and BIG fish! riverski...I think there are a few episodes that should be right up your alley coming later in the season! |
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| what would be nice is if these guys quit naming bodies of water on their episodes. what happened to the days when shows didn't say where they were out of respect for the fishery? but hey, what do these guys care, they're making a couple penny's and ruining fisheries! thanks fellas! |
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| I personally think the show is kinda weak if you ask me. First off, it's clear that his cameras are no where near what Saric uses, that's quite obvious. That up in the air thing Keyes uses is in my opinion kinda stupid. Why? Well, you can't hear crap first off, secondly, when he does have a second guy in the boat, the guy steps in front of the camera and blocks the view for a bit, at least edit that part out better.
Ben, you mention how the tournament anglers like the PMTT coverage and the PMTT likes it to. My question is, what good does that do the sponsors of the show? Clearly, majority of people don't like it, you'd think he'd want to tailor his show to more of his audience, not just the few that tournament fish or the PMTT. But I get it, it's about the money or whatever relationship he has set with the PMTT.
I've watched the show over the past couple of years, I don't get what everyone is raving over. Bucher and MuskyHunter TV do a much better job. When Gillespie does do musky shoots, even with his grab the Frabill line that he says over and over is much better than this show. This show is waaaaaaaaay overrated, but it's better than some I've seen. Just my .02. |
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| I agree with not naming waters but location in the country is nice. The little nobodys is the people that make this sport and it would be nice to see little guys on the show that make baits or guide, who's profiled and what baits used should not be only because of how bills are paid. I think if given the chance that some of these little guys might just be the big guys someday that pays the bills for you. Pro Staff was a little nobody at one time and now they promote products and TV show. |
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| Welcome to America!!! If you do not like it don't watch it. I think it is one of the best as far as musky coverage. Mike is not going to ever please everyone.
Keep up the good work Mike
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| Cant stand the tourney episodes. I'd rather be asleep. Seriously, did we need to watch a 30" fish get measured?
Or was it 2 30" fish? I think it was 2. Really hope they catch the first over 40" next week or I might forget why I used to like this show.
I don't like the lake names either!
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Keyes outdoors is awsome! I dont know why guys are complaining. Actually be happy that a muskie show is on tv to watch causes theirs not many on tv. Alot of work goes into makin a show. if ya dont like it dont watch it and go make ur own show. |
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Location: N.FIB | not too many musky shows on tv,I work the weekends so don`t get to watch any of them unless they are repeats during the week.The last thing I`m gonna do is complain about a show,I have to buy the season dvd for musky hunter and I don`t think every episode is great,but worth watching ,just like the keyes.The keyes shows I`ve seen have been good,but haven`t seen many of them,any musky footage is great footage. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | I agree Tournaments are very very boring, I agree with Jim Lang go back to shows with attitude and action and music with attitude. So many unknow rivers and lakes in WI, MN, and Canada to film and get back to what made them different. |
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| muskie_man - 1/13/2010 4:29 PM
Keyes outdoors is awsome! I dont know why guys are complaining. Actually be happy that a muskie show is on tv to watch causes theirs not many on tv. Alot of work goes into makin a show. if ya dont like it dont watch it and go make ur own show.
Awesome, seriously? Like someone stated, watching 30 inch fish get caught by a boat that's 300 yards away or watching someone hold the fish up for the camera is so spectacular. Keyes doesn't hold a breath with Muskyhunter TV and Bucher. Heck, I'd rather watch the Badfish dvd's for the 283rd time, haha. |
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Location: WESTERN WI | I enjoy Keyes Outdoors and look forward to it every week. From the Tourney coverage to Trophy Hunts it has it all. If I am not mistaken Keyes Outdoors has a longer running season where other shows only have ~12 new episodes a year.
Keep up the great work!!!
As for the "unpleaseables"... I am thinking the peanut gallery came out of hibernation a little early this year.
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| Got Esox? - 1/13/2010 5:32 PM
I enjoy Keyes Outdoors and look forward to it every week. From the Tourney coverage to Trophy Hunts it has it all. If I am not mistaken Keyes Outdoors has a longer running season where other shows only have ~12 new episodes a year.
Keep up the great work!!!
Actually, Gillespie has the most. A new show, every week. Now granted it's not musky related every week, but he definitely does more than Keyes! |
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Location: WESTERN WI | You are correct "guest". There are more episodes and less musky coverage. Love it when a big fish makes Gillepsie SHOUT for joy!
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| Got Esox? - 1/13/2010 5:43 PM
You are correct guest. There are more episodes and less musky coverage. Love it when a big fish makes Gillepsie SHOUT for joy!
Less musky coverage, what? You'd rather watch a guy babble about all his sponsors like Keyes did this last week than see actual footage from that prior week with a guy that screams Frabill? Again, Keyes show isn't that great, it's a show that is decently put together, but again, it doesn't hold a breath to MuskyHunter TV, Bucher, or Simple Fishing with Mesikomer.
Peanut gallery? Clearly you aren't watching the same show I'm watching. |
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Location: WESTERN WI | Clearly. |
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Location: The desert | I've seen some pretty boring shows. Can't comment on Keyes as I've never really watched them. Everything is you need to use this product from this company. I watched a Musky Hunter show and think I saw 2 fish caught the rest was just jibber jabber. I haven't watched it since. Gillespie has the only product showcase that is worth anything....Johnsonville Brats.
I enjoyed watching Bucher when I was growing up. He didn't talk too much and just fished.
Best fishing show I ever watched was B&J Outdoors. Worst production, couldn't understand a word they said if it was a breezy day but they went cool places and just showed fish action. No babble about sponsors as I'm not sure they had any. They didn't have all the fancy bells and whistles, just a couple guys going out and fishing. About the only fishing show I actually miss watching.
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | And to think its only January. Any muskie show is a good muskie show
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Location: Michigan | Guest - 1/11/2010 11:14 PM
How do you watch the episodes on the website? I see the list, but nowhere to click to play.
Im wondering the same thing. I see a couple shows are watchable but is there a place to watch them all? |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | What Gillespie does is unbelievable. To put out 52 new shows every year is amazing. And the fact that it's all "fresh" footage, usually within the previous week to 10 days prior to when it airs makes it even more impressive. It can't be easy to get that much good footage every week to put a show together.
That being said, I think what Keyes does is almost as impressive. To put 26 shows out every year is twice as many as most other shows. And the fact that most are on muskies has to be a huge challenge. I agree that not all the shows are the most exciting shows in the world (no different that MH, Gillespie, Bucher, etc.). I'm not a tournament guy. So the PMTT shows don't do a lot for me, personally. But I've always watched them. A show on muskies is better than any of the shows that don't fish muskies, in my opinion. And I can see why the tournament guys would enjoy them.
Through the course of Keyes' 26 shows, if you take the best of those shows and pit them against the best of the other shows mentioned here, I think they would stack up with any of them. Consider that The Musky Hunter, for example, airs only 13 shows. So you know they're airing the best of the best of their footage for the year on those shows. If they were to go to 26 shows like Keyes, you can be sure that some of their shows would be more watered down. After all, they would have to find footage for 13 more shows that wasn't good enough to make the 13 shows they DID air. Without seeing them or even know what they’re going to be on, we can all know that the 13 shows that air last will be better than the 13 infomercials that air in the Musky Hunter time slot after their season is over.
Either way, it can't be an easy job knowing that there's no way to make everyone in your audience happy with every show. This coming week’s show is more the norm of what we expect from Keyes. The action and excitement level is up a notch or five. I just watched the show online and it’s a good one. And other than “central MN”, the body of water is not named.
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | Alright, my 2 abe's, I LOVE the passsion Mike shows for the sport, how he actually gets EXCITED when he gets on a fish, regular guy, I like that. Lone wolf fishing...mixed feelings on that one. Any musky show is a good musky show. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Aaron, Keys regularly blabs where he's fishing. I remember one episode where they even had the MAP out pointing to where they were fishing! You of all people know the battles we have in MN to improve our fishery from the anti's much less from people who should know better.
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | Treats, I was actually referring to this week's show. I just watched it online and they didn't name the lake they were on. I'm on board with not talking about the body of water being fished for any TV show.
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| AWH - 1/14/2010 9:35 AM
Treats, I was actually referring to this week's show. I just watched it online and they didn't name the lake they were on. I'm on board with not talking about the body of water being fished for any TV show.
Aaron
You must have watched a different show. This past Saturday's show they were on Petenwell, and they said that multiple times throughout the show! |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | This week's show, not last week's show. As in the January 16 show, it's online.
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| Some of you really need to lighten up (Guest). Mike and Steve (and others) are providing the audience with fishing! Something we all love to do. Yeah the tourney episodes may be boring for some, but they support our sport- so relax. |
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Location: Roseau | People come on a Muskie website and bash a Musky show??!! Wow winter must really be kicken in! |
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Location: MPLS, MN | Muskie Treats - 1/14/2010 9:07 AM
Aaron, Keys regularly blabs where he's fishing. I remember one episode where they even had the MAP out pointing to where they were fishing!
That was the worst! THANKS BEN!!! I fished those areas and use to not see many other guys cept the walleye guys, now your lucky to be the 3rd in line and the 30th guy that day after that show. |
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| Like its a secret that lake erie holds huge eyes and smallies. Or green bay holds huge skis. That the Baha p has sailfish. And maine has lobsters. he he.
Petenwell is huge. I remember last year on the Next bite, Muskie god Pete Mania fishing little Wingra in Madison. And I don't see 500 boats there every weekend.
Well maybe now there will be lol. I watched the show last weekend too and agree It was a little drab. But some times so is the bite for me. |
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| At least with Keyes you get a full show of musky fishing and not one 6 min segment after 20 mins of cookie cutter smallies week in and week out. Not to mention that bucher has to fish canada now to even make a musky segement. What happened to the Wisconsin (Vilas) days? The only thing I dont like about Keyes show is that they do name the bodies of water they are on and I feel that isnt right. But as far as in your face footage how could you ask for more? They make it feel like your in the boat with them! Come on guys!
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Location: Seymour, WI | I love the tournament coverage in the Keys shows.
For anyone who has ever fished in musky tourney, you understand the emotional highs and lows when you're fishing in a tournament. Not every day on the water is going to have tons of action and big fish, it's musky fishing. Keys does a great job of showing this.
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Location: Hayward, WI | Yet again, the guests seem to have the loudest complaints. I like the tripod cam, and I don't CARE if their cameras aren't the same quality that Muskyhunter or Bucher use. Jeeze, do you guys need it to be like watching the Lifetime Network here? For the most part, Bucher only has a camera held stationary watching him too - nothing very exciting. I'm surpsied so many guys like the musky content on his show. It's got maybe 5 minutes that consist of one musky that he caught, and then explained how he gunned his bucktail over the cabbage bed too keep it free of weeds.
Saying this - I still watch Bucher sometimes because it's got some musky content. Be happy with that!
As to Keyes tournaments, I don't find them the most exciting either, but are we going to totally bash and discount the entire show because there are a couple episodes every season that don't trip your trigger? Do you throw away a bait if it goes one or two outings without catching a fish?
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| My only complaint about that show is that they name bodies of water and I have no problem signing my name to that. There is no absolutely no need for them to name unknown/small systems on their show other than to boost their egos and image in the eyes of those people who are unable or unwilling to find them on their own. Honestly, I don't even think it's necessary to say "Central MN" as Aaron said they did in this episode. How about just MN, or WI, or NW Ontario. Why broadcast location to the tools who follow the next "hot" bite? Do they like fishing in crowds? Do they like ruining fisheries? I just don't get it.
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Location: The desert | Perhaps it isn't the show that many don't like. Perhaps it is the people hosting the show. Funny, very few stand up for a tournament circuit that would cause very little harm to the sport yet people get up in arms for a couple of guys who produce a 30 minute tv show that apparently states nearly every lake name and even points out spots on maps for all the world to see. |
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| All you have to do is google Muskie fishing lakes, or lets say WI Muskie tour. They NAME every lake the tour hits plus pics of all the fish. I found some new hot spots LOL!! Keep up the good work boys! I enjoy the show!
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| Rats, I guess I just will have to go to Canada for those Fiftys LOL!
United we stand divided we fail. |
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| Out of all the musky shows that have been on over the years can somebody tell me one show that beat the footage of Mike, Steve Genson, and Jason Hamernick on MIlle Lacs in November when they put 2 fish way over 40 lbs on film and in the boat and a 30 lber to boot?? Nobody will ever beat that footage! That was downright incredible footage! IMO.
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Location: musky waters of SE, WI | "Out of all the musky shows that have been on over the years can somebody tell me one show that beat the footage of Mike, Steve Genson, and Jason Hamernick on MIlle Lacs in November when they put 2 fish way over 40 lbs on film and in the boat and a 30 lber to boot?? Nobody will ever beat that footage! That was downright incredible footage! IMO.
Mr Musky"
That was one of the best shows they ever had. I sometimes go onto MuskieBreaths website and watch those three clips. Awesome!!!
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| I had that episode on my DVR...until the hard drive crashed...bummer. Crazy good episode!! |
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| I feel Keyes Outdoors is the best musky showed aired right now. Mike and his pro-staff are down to earth fellas that are out on a normal day of fishing just like I would do. There are some shows that they catch a few monsters and there are some days they don't have much action at all. That's what I like, is the reality of the show. Great job on the show Mike! |
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Location: Appleton | I think Keyes is the best musky show out there. They do a great job of showing all sides of musky fishing not just the big fish days. Musky hunter TV only shows fish 45" and bigger and they catch 4 a day which isn't a normal day in most of our boats. New musky anglers get a false sense of what musky fishing is all about by watching these kinds of shows. The Tourney shows didn't interest me much until I started to fish tournaments more and now they are a little more interesting. Mike and Steve are very aware of the fact that people don't love the tourney shows but the PMTT must give them some kind of kick back or they wouldn't show them. I guess if you don't like their show just don't watch. I'll keep the DVR recording them every Saturday. |
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However, I have a huge issue with telling the world where you are fishing, identifying effective patterns on those waters, and running around with a camera showing the spots. We can learn a lot about how they caught fish without spilling the beans on everything including location and a great screen shot of the location. Unfortunately, pressure is growing and combat fishing sucks. I have seen pressure increase on some (near and dear) fisheries where they have filmed; fisheries which were hardly on the map before the episode. Is this a little sellfish of me? Yes. But I think all of us don't like competing to fish our home waters which we have countless hours invested in learning and understanding.
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| alot of people are making the reference 'if you dont like it dont watch it" thats fine but if I dont watch it I still dont want an influx of boats on a certain body of over water beating the crap out of it because they saw footage on somebodys show. |
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| Mak51 - 1/14/2010 9:13 PM
I like the Keyes Outdoors production, but I also haven't found a musky video that I haven't liked. I find value in watching how other musky fisherman approach the sport.
However, I have a huge issue with telling the world where you are fishing, identifying effective patterns on those waters, and running around with a camera showing the spots. We can learn a lot about how they caught fish without spilling the beans on everything including location and a great screen shot of the location. Unfortunately, pressure is growing and combat fishing sucks. I have seen pressure increase on some (near and dear) fisheries where they have filmed; fisheries which were hardly on the map before the episode. Is this a little sellfish of me? Yes. But I think all of us don't like competing to fish our home waters which we have countless hours invested in learning and understanding.
I totally agree with you and do not consider your thoughts selfish. Camera shots of specific landmarks can always be edited out and the show would still be as entertaining. Naming the lake hurts a bit, but showing specifics will get those who may have been intimidated by a certain body of water the confidence and knowledge to add it to their list.Watching certain episodes can drastically shorten the learning curve about a body of water, which results in more traffic.
On another note, Muskyhunter did the same on a particular show.
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| You can now dowload whole shows off our website. This is a new feature that was just added to the Keyes Outdoors Website. Come check it out we will make the shows dowloable after they air. |
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| After their first fall trolling show on the Fox River 2006 I asked Mike why they had to mention that they were in Depere trolling the Fox River every 5 mins during the show and the response I got was that the City paid them to come there and do a show and they had to mention where they were. Again great show's my personal fav but I dont think it's right that they give out the names. |
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | DPB - 1/15/2010 3:45 PM
You can now dowload whole shows off our website. This is a new feature that was just added to the Keyes Outdoors Website. Come check it out we will make the shows dowloable after they air.
Can you all put up the first episode(cave run pmtt) up online? |
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| Obfuscate, you're right! I'm sorry about that. It was the first show I worked on and I got carried away! I wasn't aware of the pressure it would bring. Live and learn! I brought this up with Mike and I will be much more careful in the future! |
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Location: Elkhorn, WI | I like KO as it is. Keep up the good work. Tourney coverage too. I watch them all and my preferance is:
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Location: WESTERN WI | Keyes Outdoors is a great show! I don't think any TV show, website, or magazine article should have to apologize for providing information on the sport, whether technique/location/etc. I think that everyone has a right to go a place that has a musky fishery that they have learned about through such a medium to experience the fishery. Increased pressure has resulted in me becoming a better fisherman. More people will begin fishing for Muskys every year, that is a fact I am sure. If this bothers you try to channel your 'energy' into musky stocking programs, fishing conservation clubs or those involved in rules and regulations to enhance our fisheries.
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Location: Michigan | IMOHO...
Keyes has been one of my favorites because:
- More grass roots and muskie focussed than any other show
- I like the raw/rougher footage
- Just good ol' boys having fun fishing
- Mike gets more excited about a 40 incher than most
- Variety of muskie fishing styles/situations/locations
- Opening song/footage is so cool...
* Could stand a bit less hype for sponsors...
* Really hope format doesn't deviate much, we don't have anything else on TV like this
Musky Hunter:
- Excellent video quality/editing
- Big fish
- Decent educational content (sometimes too basic)
- Too scripted
- Very different from anthing else on TV
- One of my favorites
Bucher
- Don't watch it anymore
- 12 min of smallies, 6 min of muskie, advertising = not very interesting to me
- Don't like pole mounted camera - almost get sea sick...
- Content of muskie related talk is not educational
- I think many times the head of the fish are out of the water way too long while unhooking in the net
The Next Bite
- Can't get it any more - Used to have it on Direct TV, but they couldn't get a new contract with Comcast
- Not enough muskie content...
- Would like to see more educational focus - Pete has more to share
- Wish I could still get it...
Woods n Waters
- Love the raw, but well edited footage
- Like the variety, but prefer more muskie
- John's enthusiam is over the top, hilarious, makes him unique
- Wouldn't miss it
Edited by Chadster 1/17/2010 7:20 AM
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Location: Minneapolis,Mn | Personally, I have to put the mute on Waters and Woods, because John Gillespie's volume can be so irritating. Thank God for Closed Captioning !!! |
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Location: On the River | I think his tournament coverage is boring to watch and his show has become a infomercial for his sponsors. I no longer watch it. |
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Location: IL | Love the show. keep up the good job Mike!  |
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Location: WI | sbro73 - 1/17/2010 8:56 AM
Personally, I have to put the mute on Waters and Woods, because John Gillespie's volume can be so irritating. Thank God for Closed Captioning !!!
How does slobasaurus come out w/ closed captioning? |
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| sbro73 - 1/17/2010 8:56 AM
Personally, I have to put the mute on Waters and Woods, because John Gillespie's volume can be so irritating. Thank God for Closed Captioning !!! You can say that again! |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | I think the BIG PICTURE is being missed here. KO is one of the few musky shows out there, and quite plainly, if you don't like watching it, then you probably shouldn't - why use a forum on a website to make an anonymous bash on friends of our shared interest - musky fishing. There are too many bass shows out there, of which I personally don't relate well to because I'm a musky man myself, and boy, isn't it interesting that you can often see the shoreline all around their boat. . . Not a lot of stocked farm ponds have names.
It also comes down to finances. Camera clarity and camera men, mostly cost money and a lot of it. In our small industry, whom do you suppose wants to jump into something small and sponsor it - furthermore, how many of our musky tackle companies can afford to promote the show with commercials, etc?
I for one am a huge fan of the Keyes Outdoors, as well as the Badfish crew. These are real guys like you and I who can put you on the water when your laid up in bed or stuck at home. I appreciate watching local dudes fising local water for a species I favor and can relate to, I tend to vear away from fishing bones on the sandflats of the keyes, or hunting Texas bucks in the dry desert looking fenced ranches. So consider applauding the series, or else stay tuned for more bass fishing and saltwater fishing. . . If you can relate to it. |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | wisriverrat - 1/17/2010 9:33 AM
I think his tournament coverage is boring to watch and his show has become a infomercial for his sponsors. I no longer watch it.
I'd like to defend the recipricol of this statement. Keep in mind that tournament fishing has become a key component in supporting our small industry. Tackle shops, tackle producers and taxidermests our what keeps you on the water, but realize that what seperates most of musky tackle is that it is handmade in a basement somewhere - very few are outsourced and molded into plastic in mass quantities. These lure manufacturers depend on more than word of mouth advertising and MH advertising. TV shows like the Keyes Outdoors, as well as tournaments are huge advertising promotional opportunities for these vendors and manufacturers. As a tournament angler myself, I can't tell you how many times we roll into a small town, like Eagle River, and find a certain lure is working from the locals or from prefishing - next thing you know, all the similar baits in a particular color are sold out at Guides Choice and Eagle Sports, etc. Weather you like tournament fishing or not, understand that money is what makes this world spin, and it's definitely a necessity to continue growing our tiny industry.
I support the tournament coverage because I can relate. It also teaches a lot about the water the tournament is being held on, which to many provides an akward disadvantage in that it can unveil anglers spots and tactics, which for many who have been in this limelight, can hold the idea in ill-regard, but for others, can be helpful. It also supports the promoters of our industry. |
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| Great show this weekend! Loved the underwater footage as well. Cant wait to see Part II.
Mr Musky |
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| "Great show this weekend" you must be kidding! They filmed the capture of exactly 2 fish neither of which was much over 40" if at all. I liked this show as well but this weekends' episode wasn't good at all. I honestly can't remember a half hour show done about muskies that only showed 2 being caught. If I was Hammernick I wouldn't be thrilled with it either. We were promised a great show this weekend and a Just in Case infomercial broke out. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Because some folks like/dislike any show doesn't make it great/horrible. Ratings are the real deal, and if Keyes is doing OK there, he's hitting it in the numbers. If he isn't, his sponsors will let him know, and he'll adjust, I bet. |
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