What do YOU want in a reel
Guest
Posted 11/29/2009 11:39 AM (#410145)
Subject: What do YOU want in a reel


I am in talks with a reel company in making a new reel. I am looking at getting input on what YOU would like to see in a reel and what you don't like. And were best to go to get some good input than the people that use the equipment. This reel would not be ready till the 2011 season.
Tackle Industries
Posted 11/29/2009 11:41 AM (#410146 - in reply to #410145)
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Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
Gears that don't strip. Maybe some gears made from an old SR-71 titanium scrap heap
shaley
Posted 11/29/2009 11:51 AM (#410147 - in reply to #410146)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 1184


Location: Iowa Great Lakes
No plastic, light strong good gears good drag engaging levelwind and possibly able to switch gear ratios easily. Oh and resonably priced.
muskyyaker
Posted 11/29/2009 12:04 PM (#410150 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 39


Location: branchburg NJ
first of all no plastic parts that warp after minor use. A non disengaging level wind so the heavy braid doesnt criss cross the spool.Easy maintenance and reliability. maybe this could be the reel to put an end to the relentless threads on DCG reels. :)

Edited by muskyyaker 11/29/2009 12:06 PM
reelman
Posted 11/29/2009 12:06 PM (#410151 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 1270


Generally speaking gears are not an issue with todays reels. As for plastic there are places where plastic is better than metal, put a metal cog gear on the level wind and you will not believe how the reel will scream when it spins at 30,000rpms!
PIKEMASTER
Posted 11/29/2009 12:23 PM (#410152 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Gears made from brass are fine, its the size that matters, a main gear that is 40-44mm tall and a 4slot pinion, That will give the reel the POWER to bring DCG10-13 with ease. Then you could use 100mm long Power handles, with 40mm plus gears, now that is a reel. Plastic Cogs are fine.
fishbag
Posted 11/29/2009 12:29 PM (#410154 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel


simple!left handed,tumb bar,light,no plastic gear,power handle,levelwind
gtp888
Posted 11/29/2009 1:02 PM (#410155 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel





Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Take the Revo Toro and make a ROUND version...please! Abu Garcia, are you listening? This is what I would love to see!
esoxaddict
Posted 11/29/2009 1:14 PM (#410156 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 8772


*sigh*

Okay here goes...

I want a reel that is smooth, comfortable, lightweight, and solid.
I want a reel with a thumbar that doesn't stick, engage halfway, or otherwise malfunction
I want a reel with a levelwind that lasts more than a season or two, that doesn't skip or suddenly start piling line up on one side of the spool
I want a reel with an anti-reverse that works, and keeps on working
I want a reel with a big handle, that picks up a lot of line, that won't blow up from pulling double 10's
I want a reel with a a centrifugal weight system and a mechanical brake that allows me to cast a good distance with a variety of baits, and not be a backlash machine, even if I am throwing a suick on a windy day.
I want a reel that doesn't require constant tightening of nuts and screws to keep handles and such attached
I want a reel that performs well in inclement weather. That means rain, snow, sleet, and well below freezing temperatures, often in the same day.
I want a reel that works as well at the end of a season (or even two seasons?) as it did when I took it out of the box in the spring
I want a reel that can make it from May to December without needing to be taken apart, cleaned, and oiled
I want a reel that doesn't start to grind, rattle, squeak, scream, wobble, fart, etc after a season
ffdonnie
Posted 11/29/2009 2:48 PM (#410165 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 179


Location: Wisconsin
Thanks for all the concerns you are looking for. Keep them coming. I want to be able to take all this info to the manufacturer and have them build a reel that will be sport changing.
fishbag
Posted 11/29/2009 4:05 PM (#410167 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel


have not seen a reel with all those quality.this is what i can call the perfect reel.
best of luck to make one
Cowboyhannah
Posted 11/29/2009 5:10 PM (#410169 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 1451


Location: Kronenwetter, WI
In my opinion, make a reel that dependably does what it was built to do for more than one season and you have a winner.
50inchGrinch
Posted 11/29/2009 5:23 PM (#410170 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 221


TN16 DC, levelwind, with auto-engage.
muskie_man
Posted 11/29/2009 5:42 PM (#410172 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 1237


Location: South Portsmouth, KY
a reel that the anti reverse wouldent crap out, the levelwind and pawl not crap out, big handles, also more high speed reels like the trindad with a push button and a levelwind.
Guest
Posted 11/29/2009 7:20 PM (#410181 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel


I would like a reel that has a vented spool, so you could tie your braided line to it so the line would never slip.
smj617
Posted 11/29/2009 8:47 PM (#410203 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 37


How about a good quality reel that doesnt break the bank to purchase.

Edited by smj617 11/29/2009 8:49 PM
reelman
Posted 11/29/2009 10:42 PM (#410214 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 1270


I have to laugh reading some of these posts, it reminds me of what I want in a tire for my truck. I want a tire that I never need to rotate, that I can do 30 second burn outs with, that I can come to a skidding stop all the time with, that will handle 180mph without any tire noise but will also get me through 12" of jumbo mud. Oh and I want it to have a lifetime warranty and only cost $25 each.
esoxaddict
Posted 11/30/2009 1:54 AM (#410225 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 8772


Reelman... Even the cheapest tires you can find will last a season. Is that too much to ask in a reel that was supposedly designed for muskie fishing???
Guest
Posted 11/30/2009 9:19 AM (#410238 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel


I would like to know which company is "making" this reel, that means alot as well. There are many companys out there with a pretty bad past and track record, that come out with new reels every year and the new ones are just as bad as the older ones. Then there are companies like Shimano that make the 400TE, and simply continue to make it without change or adding "new and improved" reels to the line up.
Dirt Esox
Posted 11/30/2009 10:26 AM (#410246 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 457


Location: Minneconia
Trinidad 16n with thumb bar and levelwind would be awesome!! I would be willing to pay for the improvements, quality ain't cheap!

Edited by Dirt Esox 11/30/2009 10:28 AM
Lightning
Posted 11/30/2009 12:03 PM (#410250 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 485


Location: On my favorite lake!
I would like to see both low profile reel and round reel with all metal such as titanium gears, Power handle, Drag and antireverse that don't strip out. Come in a variety of speeds. I want a reel that doesn't fail.
Brian
Posted 11/30/2009 12:33 PM (#410257 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel


Start with a Calcutta 400. Then, change the following:

- Leave the spool wide, but make the barrel thicker. This will reduce the amount of line capacity, which will reduce superline cost. It will eliminate the need for a mono backing on the spool.
- Add a threading hole in the barrel of the spool to prevent line slippage.
- Add a power handle, but make sure it is balanced to avoid premature engaging of the reel. To tell if it is balanced, take the handle off the reel and balance it on your finger, like a seesaw/teeter totter.
- In lieu of trying to balance the handle, just have two oversize knobs on the power handle (one on each end), and it will balance itself.
- Add stronger gears to withstand twin ten bucktails.
- If you want to be crazy, add a gear shift to switch between slow and fast retrieve speeds.

Brian
reelman
Posted 11/30/2009 12:40 PM (#410258 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 1270


All the talk about stronger gear has me thinking of who hear has stripped gear on a reel before. Not including 6.3 Abu gears And when I say gears I mean the gears that turn the spool, not the cog gears that turn the spool. The reason I ask is that I have repaired about 20,000 reels and other than the 6.3 abu gears I can count on one hand the reels that have had gears go bad on them. Now this also does not include gears that went bad because something else broke and got caught in the gears as that will destroy any gear. Way to often regardless of the problem people think it;s the gears.
BNelson
Posted 11/30/2009 12:42 PM (#410259 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel





Location: Contrarian Island
400TE and Trinidad 16N pretty much cover all the bases imo....make those about half the cost... ; )

Edited by BNelson 11/30/2009 12:43 PM
Ryan_Cotter
Posted 11/30/2009 5:50 PM (#410299 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 182


Location: musky waters of SE, WI
Trinidads with a push button and levelwind!!! also cut the cost in half

Edited by Ryan_Cotter 11/30/2009 5:52 PM
jackson
Posted 12/1/2009 7:22 AM (#410361 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 582


How about just NO PLASTIC. I hate opening a reel and finding gears made of plastic.
reelman
Posted 12/1/2009 11:29 AM (#410412 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 1270


What reel has main gears made of plastic? Most all of them have the gears that turn the level wind made out of plastic and if those were made out of metal you would not believe the noise they would make on the cast. I have been involved with reels that had metal gears to turn the level wind and trust me you don't want that.
123
Posted 12/3/2009 10:51 AM (#410662 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel


Everything they said, plus...

*Recessed reel foot
*Reel foot positioned to balance the reel better when on the rod
*Smooth, comfortable left-hand side plate for those of us who palm the reel all day (no sharp edges!)

BrianF.
ffdonnie
Posted 12/4/2009 8:13 PM (#410962 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 179


Location: Wisconsin
I would like to thanks everyone for there input. I will take this info to the reel maker and see how we can apply this to a new reel.

Thanks again
knooter
Posted 12/5/2009 12:50 AM (#410998 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
I'd like to see a 400 size Curado, in both the 6.2 and 5.0 gear ratios. Also with power handles and non-disengaging levelwind.
Also, I'd like to see a Trinidad 14 with a levelwind and auto clutch to engage the spool. Then it would need a balanced powerhandle to prevent that massive knob from engaging the spool mid-cast. I'd probably buy one or two if they made them, and sell the rest of my reels.
Rattlin RB
Posted 12/5/2009 7:29 PM (#411084 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 338


A reel that can HANDLE Musky fishing and you don't have to break the bank to own one. I have never had a reel that will hold up to the rigors of musky fishing. Just my 2 cents.
SouperFish
Posted 12/5/2009 9:24 PM (#411103 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel




Location: Green Bay
I would like to see MADE IN THE U.S.A.
RyanJoz
Posted 12/6/2009 7:15 AM (#411131 - in reply to #411103)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel




Posts: 1710


Location: Mt. Zion, IL
A one piece sideplate with a drop in anti-reverse bearing so that if it fails, it can be changed easily.
Guest
Posted 12/6/2009 8:49 PM (#411241 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel


side button, not thumb bar for casting thumb bars can get hit on hooksets and a real that doesn't slip or backreel after a full day out in the rain
Fishboy19
Posted 12/6/2009 11:22 PM (#411267 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 298


A Trinidad with a level wind would be awesome.
byteme90k
Posted 12/7/2009 9:39 AM (#411302 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: RE: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 220


Location: Pittsburgh, PA
left hand retrieve
Tim Kelly
Posted 12/8/2009 4:22 AM (#411462 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 358


Location: London, England
An old style 7001 with IAR and 4:1 gears would be a good start. A narrow bodied version too, like the HSN, but with 4:1 gears. Sweet!

Bigger high effieciency gears would be a definite improvement too, and if it could all be made a bit lighter I'd be a very happy bunny.

However it ended up, a left handed version is mandatory.
Hammskie
Posted 12/8/2009 8:20 AM (#411477 - in reply to #411462)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Posts: 697


Location: Minnetonka
I second Fishboy's request... a Trinidad 14 with levelwind would be the ultimate musky fishing reel.
muskellunged
Posted 12/12/2009 9:37 PM (#412451 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Location: Illinois
Invincibility and a built in warmer for cold days.
dfkiii
Posted 12/13/2009 1:32 AM (#412464 - in reply to #410145)
Subject: Re: What do YOU want in a reel





Location: Sawyer County, WI
Lefty Trinidad with a thumb bar and levelwind.