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| Sorry for beating a dead horse.
I have been using abu 5500 C3's for my double ten blades. It hurts but I am toughening up! But I am going to buy a reel dedicated to these blades. I am thinking the Revo Toro Winch. I know it is a nice reel but can I burn these baits fairly quickly with this.
I really need Winch owners to share their experience this summer with this reel?
I can bulge the DCG's with my abus to the point where they blow out of the water but it hurts:( I do not want to go with the super heavy reels (saltist, abu 7000...) as I find that just as tiring and uncomfortable as muscling the bait in with my 5500 abus.
Any opinions/experience on the 5.4:1 toro would be helpful.
Thanks!!
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Location: Iowa Great Lakes | I run the 5:4 Toro for blades, won't burn them without pain but pulls them in normaly without issue. My blade set up is a 9' Predator with the Toro 60, been a great set up this year. To truly burn them get a Salstis or similar. |
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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | Your 5500's are geared the same as me 6500's I believe, throw a power handle on them and go. I can burn dbl #10s with no problem and bulge dbl #13's with little effort.
Good fishin'
Tim
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Get yourself some 3.8:1 winch gears for the 5500 and a power handle. Then you will be all set. |
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Location: Oregon, IL | I used a the Revo Toro with the 5.4:1 this year for double blades with no problems.
Edited by ILmuskyhunter 11/22/2009 3:41 PM
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| Not exactly the answer to your question (as my experience was with a Revo60 and not the smaller Winch) but nonetheless...
I own both an Abu Revo60 and a Shimano Torium14. I thought the Revo60 was a really nice sturdy reel. In regards to Double 10's I will say that it didn't crank/burn the double 10's in even remotely close as easily and comfortably as the Torium14. The Revo60 still caused my arm to strain a bit and me to work hard when I wanted to reel faster. I suppose it's an unfair comparasin but it's "simple mathematics" - the Revo and saltwater reels are mechanically different. My Revo60 has found a place on my topwater and medium blade rod. That being said, the Revo60 is an good musky reel - it's just not the TOP choice for a double 10 burner for me.
(As for the saltwater reels being thought of as too big and possibly scaring people off of buying one - well - I palm my Torium14 comfortably on a split grip sling blade rod. I considered a size 16 Shimano saltwater reel but I found that I could comfortably palm the Torium14 so I made my decision there. With the Revo60, I found it very wide and didn't palm as comfortably as the Torium14, believe it or not).
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Location: Contrarian Island | Landry, imo if you want a reel that will actually burn double 10s without killing your arms after an hour..you should simply get a reel that makes it easy...saltist 30, trinidad 16n, and a couple others...reels like the REvo in 5.4 and even 4.6 are simply not bringing in the line per crank of the saltwater reels.... |
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| Checked out the Torium and I am intrigued but I prefer left-hand retrieve.
Like the simple idea of adding a power handle too - although I am guessing my abu will likely be destroyed after another summer of pulling those things.
I am sure the toro winch would retrieve these baits easily but is it just too slow.
How fast are people burning these things - are you adding extra weight to keep them in the water?
Thanks a ton
Landry |
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Location: MN | I've got super models that have an extra 2oz on them and I'm still waken the surface wath a 16 DC Trinidad. A Revo 60 4.6,5.4 do not bring enough line per turn to burn tails for more than a cast or 2.
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Location: Contrarian Island | left hand retrieve get an Avet, scroll down and there is a thread about left hand options.
Edited by BNelson 11/24/2009 8:40 AM
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Location: Antioch, IL | are you adding extra weight to keep them in the water?
Thanks a ton
Landry
I'll add weight if I want them to run deep. I usually think of bulging the surface when "burning" is mentioned. I know some guys add weight, but more weight = more fatigue on man & machine. If you're blowing the bait out just put the rod tip in the water during the retrieve. (It's going in for the figure eight anyway). I use an 8'6" rod with a Saltist 30LW and can burn big blades all day long plus have enough reserve (putting the rod tip in the water) to turn on the afterburners and trigger a follower to come unglued.
It's not just speed. It's variations in speed. Get the highest gear ratio available (that your comfortable with). All reels can go slow, not all can go fast. |
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Location: Ontario | Since I know from reading these posts that starting another thread about DCG reels is a no no, I thought I would try and sneak a question in here. With the Trinidad and the Saltist, do they automatically engage when you start reeling or do you have to flip the level back? Just picked up a new rod for big blades and am deciding on the reel.
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| Matty - 11/24/2009 1:09 PM
Since I know from reading these posts that starting another thread about DCG reels is a no no, I thought I would try and sneak a question in here. With the Trinidad and the Saltist, do they automatically engage when you start reeling or do you have to flip the level back? Just picked up a new rod for big blades and am deciding on the reel.
Thanks,
Matt
They both have to be manually engaged (flipped back), but I would not let this scare you away from these reels. I bet it takes you less than an hour to get use to it. |
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| I agree that manually engaging the reel is not a big deal at all. I've used a lot of reels for big blades but now use only two - Shimano Trinidad 16 and Calcutta 700TE - both must be engaged manually. I've had many, many people in my boat that were using these reels for the first time and rarely is anyone bothered by the manual engagement. The Trinidad can't be topped if you want to burn your blades. However, I think the 700TE doesn't give up much speed and it's a better all-around reel. It has both power and speed, and it has a levelwind. The Trinidad is great for hard-pulling baits like double-10s, but doesn't perform as well with other baits. I know some people that use a Trinidad for everything, but I think the 700TE is a much better choice for a wide range of baits. I have a zillion hours on mine and they have been very, very reliable. I send them to Shimano in the off-season for clean and lube, and that's it.
Matty:
If you're only throwing blades with your new rod you can't go wrong with either the Trinidad or the 700TE. If you want a reel that's peerless for everything, that reel is the 700TE. |
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Location: Ontario | Can I forward this message onto my wife so she lets me spend $400 on another reel?!?!? |
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Location: Twin Cities | What on earth are you doing telling her what they actually cost? You're gonna ruin it for the rest of us! lol! |
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yet another annoying DCG reel thread:)