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| So , I am wondering at what water temp do you guys stop using blades ? Not really DCG's but even Reapers etc ? Also, why do they stop working with cooler temps ? Should I consider going smaller ? Or get over it till warm weather again ? Any thoughts are appreciated . |
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Location: Contrarian Island | bucktails work til the lakes freeze...I've even had fish eating topwaters in mid 40 degree water temps...every style of bait works at any time of the year....keep an open mind... |
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Location: Twin Cities | Friend got a 47 over the tops of shallow dead weeds burning a double showgirl in november last year. first rule of muskie fishing? There are no rules. |
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Location: MPLS, MN | To me, after it gets under 50 degree water temps the only bucktail I'll use is a Supermodel slow rolled. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I caught one today in low 50's temps and I know of several, including a 47 two days ago on a double 10, and that was in 48* water. |
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| Thanks guys ..... |
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Location: Contrarian Island | put one in the net last nite, 49 degree temps...regular double ten at medium speed...she ate in the 8...fish will eat any lure at any water temp...when they are active/eating you don't have to think only slow lures will get hit...ever watch a musky chase a sucker in mid to high 30 temps...the notion that lures have to be moving slow to get hit in cold temps is something fishermen concocted..not the fish |
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Location: MPLS, MN | No one said have to move slow BNelson, I just think it ups your percentages and so do most articles by pros I've read, especially on big fish. I'd maybe use double 10's in under 50 degree water if they hadn't invented the Supermodel. Probably also fish differant if I lived in Wisconson vs MN. Anyway I know you catch alot of fish so I respect your take but for me, if your in MN and the water is under 50 I'll stick to Supermodels, Jerks, Cranks and Rubber... |
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Location: Contrarian Island | while I will agree with that...just saying that just cuz the water is cold doesn't mean you have to reel anything slow...good place to start for sure but if slow doesn't make them eat maybe they want it fast...as noted above by the guy burning a showgirl and got a nice one...just have to keep an open mind and never think that slow, or even the super model, is the only way to go in cold temps....
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Location: Detroint Lakes, MN |
Cold water temps do not make fish "slow down" as a rule. Sometimes slower is better, but that is also true in the middle of summer.
I've caught a lot of fish trolling at 3-4 MPH when the lakes are just about frozen.
Also put a lot of fish in the boat trolling jerk-baits at fairly high speeds in the cold shallow water.
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| Obfuscate Musky - 10/22/2009 9:20 AM
I'd maybe use double 10's in under 50 degree water if they hadn't invented the Supermodel.
There's alot interesting "takes" in this thread. Ob/M, what do you find better about the Supermodel in colder water temps? Is it b/cuz of the larger profile? Just curious.
Brad N., I've always was taught/led to believe that baits had to be slowed down in the colder water. I now know that's not accurate. Like you mentioned the suckers getting chased. I've seen fish flat out move/chase them like there was no tomorrow too.
I've seen fish in the spring, right after ice out (IN) come flying in on a double 10's being ripped. I guess one thing for sure is to definatley always keep an open mind, and let the fish tell/show you what they want.
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Location: Contrarian Island | I use to think the same thing about cold temps... not anymore... like JS says, at times in 75 degree water they want a bait moving slow, at times fast, same can be said for 40 degree temps, sometimes slow triggers them, sometimes fast...same with size, sometimes big, sometimes small... anyone (including the "pros") that says only slow and big will get hit in cold temps is simply missing out on chances to put fish in the boat imo.
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| Everything we CAST is SLOW compared to a baitfish trying to escape...Anyone ever figure out how fast you can actually "burn" a bucktail? Maybe 8mph? |
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Location: Contrarian Island | about 8mph...this was the figure I used...if you cast a double ten 70 feet, and this was just a guess in my head it takes about 6 seconds to burn it in...that would put it moving at 7.9 mph..... |
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Location: MPLS, MN | Chas - 10/22/2009 9:59 AM
Obfuscate Musky - 10/22/2009 9:20 AM
I'd maybe use double 10's in under 50 degree water if they hadn't invented the Supermodel.
There's alot interesting "takes" in this thread. Ob/M, what do you find better about the Supermodel in colder water temps? Is it b/cuz of the larger profile? Just curious.
The last couple years I've had more action in late fall on Supermodels than other guys in my boat with cowgirls or smaller tails but it's Probably just a confidence thing. I guess if my mind is that slower is usually better in late fall, then so is a larger profile, also, I'm no pro but I've usually caught enough fish by mid October that I'm really fishing for that Monster fish by then. Same with a lure like a Grandma, most of the summer - early fall I'm using 7" or 9" but late fall use mostly 13"ers.
Like I said, I may be wrong but that's how I roll..LOL.. |
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| Obfuscate Musky - 10/22/2009 11:27 AM
Chas - 10/22/2009 9:59 AM
Obfuscate Musky - 10/22/2009 9:20 AM
I'd maybe use double 10's in under 50 degree water if they hadn't invented the Supermodel.
There's alot interesting "takes" in this thread. Ob/M, what do you find better about the Supermodel in colder water temps? Is it b/cuz of the larger profile? Just curious.
The last couple years I've had more action in late fall on Supermodels than other guys in my boat with cowgirls or smaller tails but it's Probably just a confidence thing. I guess if my mind is that slower is usually better in late fall, then so is a larger profile, also, I'm no pro but I've usually caught enough fish by mid October that I'm really fishing for that Monster fish by then. Same with a lure like a Grandma, most of the summer - early fall I'm using 7" or 9" but late fall use mostly 13"ers.
Like I said, I may be wrong but that's how I roll..LOL..
That's cool, thanks for the info.  |
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