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| Going to get a new boat/motor, is there any difference in quality between a new honda vs a new yammy in the 60-90 HP range? Thanks for any help! |
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Location: Lebanon,Mo | Go Yamaha.More popular,better resale value, and plenty of great feedback out there. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hiya,
To be honest, if you go 90 hp, I would get the honda with the Vtec technology....that is a dynamite system and will definitely be a little easier on the gas while trolling and under lower throttle settings. B & W magazine did a test on that 90 and it had somewhere around 13 miles to the gallon if memory serves me correctly while in a lower cruising mode. Weight-wise, I think they are both comparable.
If I could upgrade to that honda, I think I would do it pretty quickly from my 90 2 stroke...a bit more power than the yamaha 90hp.
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Location: On my favorite lake! | I would go honda also. I know they are quiter. Because two friends have 50's and the honda is noticibly less noisy. I think both are decent but if it was me. Honda is my choice |
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | I would say they would both be very good motors. However, both will need parts at some point.
When deciding on my next motor, I went Yamaha because parts availability is very important and Yamaha dealers are everywhere. I stayed away from Suzuki for that reason and it might be tough to get parts for a Honda too. Also, Yamahas are all salt water capable so corrosion is not an issue.
As far as dependability goes, all one has to do is go to any marina on the ocean and look to see the most popular outboard motor. When you're on the ocean, a dead motor or motors can be life threatening. Almost all one sees anymore on the ocean are Yamahas. There are a very few saltwater Mercs and occasionaly a Suzuki or Evenrude, but it has to be at least 90% Yamaha. There was nothing but Yamaha at the marina we stayed at in the Keys last winter.
Good luck with whatever you get.
Edited by Herb_b 10/1/2009 3:02 PM
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Location: The desert | Herb_b - 10/1/2009 3:01 PM
I would say they would both be very good motors. However, both will need parts at some point.
Good luck with whatever you get.
Bingo. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | honda gets my vote. i know a friend with a yammy 200 and he had a piece of leaf get stuck in the throttle linkage that runs THROUGH the block. we are both engineers and decided that it could be done a lot more efficiently with a lot fewer parts. the dealer he took it to said the yammy throttle has nearly 300 parts. I have not seen a honda, but I have dealt with their atv's, and you can't kill one. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Herb_b - 10/1/2009 4:01 PM
I would say they would both be very good motors. However, both will need parts at some point.
When deciding on my next motor, I went Yamaha because parts availability is very important and Yamaha dealers are everywhere. I stayed away from Suzuki for that reason and it might be tough to get parts for a Honda too. Also, Yamahas are all salt water capable so corrosion is not an issue.
As far as dependability goes, all one has to do is go to any marina on the ocean and look to see the most popular outboard motor. When you're on the ocean, a dead motor or motors can be life threatening. Almost all one sees anymore on the ocean are Yamahas. There are a very few saltwater Mercs and occasionaly a Suzuki or Evenrude, but it has to be at least 90% Yamaha. There was nothing but Yamaha at the marina we stayed at in the Keys last winter.
Good luck with whatever you get.
Agreed. Honda anything is great, but Yamaha is king of the hill when it comes to the saltwater world where reliability and longevity rule. I had a VMAX and now a F225 and I could not be happier. Not had it in for service, but if I ever need to, I'll be able to pick from any one of the 110 (a bit of an exaggeration) Yamaha shops in my area. |
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Location: Ontario | I have the 2003 90hp Yamaha. If Hondas beat them in mileage trolling (or on plane) its not by very much. You can't go wrong with either. Mine gets very good fuel economy. Wknds that are +/- 60 miles round trip by boat are the norm, with a lot of trolling thrown in on top of that. A tank lasts me close to two full wknds most of the time.
Buy the one that has the closest reputable dealer for the convenience factor, I say. This is like deciding which super model to date..there is no bad choice. |
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Location: The desert | We run 3 honda outboards here in our office. All three have been in and out of the shop all year. Parts take forever to come in. They run decent when they run, but we've experienced a lot of issues with them, however some were operator induced from one of our interns this summer. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Sure it wasn't from the intern the last two years at the office? |
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Location: The desert | TJ DeVoe - 10/1/2009 9:45 PM
Sure it wasn't from the intern the last two years at the office?
Never once had a problem either season. So I'm sure. I was only an intern one year. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Ha, that's plenty of time to wreck half the Utah fleet! |
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Location: The desert | Seems strange that the boats ran fine for 2 and half years, then when a certain someone runs each boat they need to head to the shop.
Edited by Pointerpride102 10/1/2009 10:30 PM
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Ran find? Who's talkin stupid? |
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Location: The desert | I've got a headache, likely induced by the grammar and spelling seen here.
Edited by Pointerpride102 10/1/2009 10:33 PM
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| They are both good motors..............don't overlook Suzukis, awesome motors. |
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | I agree, both a great motors, but I would suggest looking at Suzuki's as well. |
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | I hear the Evenrude Etec motors are really good motors too. Lots of good options and I would base my choice largely on service availability in your area. If Yamaha has the best service, then I would choose Yamaha. If its Honda, Suzuki, or Evenrude, I would go that direction instead. They are all very good motors.
Mercury I am not sure about. It seems some of their motors are very good and some are not. I don't have enough information on them to form an opinion. Perhaps someone else here could elaborate on Mercury motors.
One important thing for all new four-strokes and fuel injection 2-strokes, a person wants to make sure you add in an in-line gas filter like the 10 micron high-flow Yamaha filter. Those high-pressure injection systems use very small fuel injectors and that high pressure can lead to serious problems if any dirt gets in the gas. Ethanol blended gas can cause problems too. Unfortunately, fixing fouled fuel injectors is a big deal and can be very expensive.
I ended up with a big bill because a small amount of dirt got into my system. Could have saved myself over a thousand dollars had I known to put one of those filters in. 
Good luck. |
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| I've had a Honda for 10 years. Love it, wouldn't buy anything else.
You won't go wrong with a Yami or a Suzi either.
The other posters are right about the lack of Honda dealers. |
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Location: Ontario | Same with automobiles. Honda beats the Big Three in sales with 1/3 the dealerships in the US and Canada (and the overhead costs that acompany them). |
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Honda VS Yamaha..any difference?