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| If you were fishing a weedline and encountered a bouy and about that time a wrapped guide boat rolls up on you and says that's their spot and you need to get out of there, then proceeds to bombard your boat with lures, what would you do? |
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Location: Contrarian Island | are you kidding me? what a joke...I'd have a few words back to him and not move an inch...what's he gonna do?
Edited by BNelson 9/22/2009 4:02 PM
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Location: Smith Creek | Call the DNR, take a lot of pictures for evidence. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Fish my way through. No one owns the water, some folks just feel like they do. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | ...I think most cell phones have video cameras these days..maybe if this happens to someone they can shoot a little video to post...
Edited by BNelson 9/22/2009 4:03 PM
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| I would put a two pounder on and launch it in there direction and watch him get soaked. I can not beleive that happened, may I ask what lake you were on. This great sport is supposed to be fun and that will take the fun right out of it. Better luck next time and I wish that you caught a pig right in front of him. |
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Location: Sw Pennsylvania | Move your boat and lose your spot mr guide. That is absolutely ridiculous a guide would do that. I bet his paying customers were real impressed.
Edited by allegheny river kid 9/22/2009 4:12 PM
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| put on a hughes river and start unloading. a buoy on a spot? c'mon. some guide actually did that? can you actually feel like a guide? thats like being a guide on a 300 acre lake. |
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| I don't believe this for one minute. Nobody and I mean nobody is that arrogant and stupid. |
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Location: Madison WI | Hunter4 - 9/22/2009 4:43 PM
I don't believe this for one minute. Nobody and I mean nobody is that arrogant and stupid.
We all want to think this but the truth of the matter is there are plenty of arrogant stupid people out there that wouldn't think twice before doing this. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | actually it's kind of funny, but I got a text from a very reputable souce this morning before this post that this actually did happen.... |
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Location: Oswego, IL | I can see a walleye guy mark a reef or something and fish it which is just fin ein my book, but if he wasnt anywhere around that bouy: to me, is now a lost one. A muskie guy, I dont know.... running around the lake throwing bouys and expect people to stay away, total donkey balls IMO. Remember there is little someone can do to you while your on the water, just a verbal attack and maybe casting wild lures, best bet, anything close enough, cut the line and take his lure |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Would you really throw a bait full of hooks at a boat with 3 guys in it? Sounds like some internet muscle to me.
Edited by Luke_Chinewalker 9/22/2009 5:24 PM
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| stop and think for a minute: that buoy's there for a reason...so make use of it.
a) take the buoy, say loudly, "look what i found. i bet there's a big fish here!"
b) drop anchor, continue casting, ignore other boat.
c) if they get too obnoxious, pull out the camera and start taking photos...
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| I would not fish a buoy another person threw out the mark a spot especially if they are right there to fish it...seems to be no common courtesy for others any longer....too bad. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | I think I would need more information before making a comment here. Reason? I don't know the entire situation since I was not there. For all I know, the guide boat may have just been down the line fishing toward the buoy and the other boat pulled up and started fishing toward it, thus cutting the guide boat off.
I just get a feeling we are not getting the whole story....
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| I'm with Lambeau, I can always use an extra bouy. I pick up a couple every season, but they don't put em out often enough down here, but to counter it, I can get a lot of styrofoam catfish jugs that are abandoned. |
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| firstsixfeet - 9/22/2009 6:03 PM
I'm with Lambeau, I can always use an extra bouy. I pick up a couple every season, but they don't put em out often enough down here, but to counter it, I can get a lot of styrofoam catfish jugs that are abandoned.
You could always just steal them from the store as well if you need them that badly...Ben |
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Location: Lebanon,Mo | Same down here,if I put out a buoy I wouldnt be worried about someone fishing my spot as much as them taking it.Rednecks here will put it to use for other reasons....Trout line,clothes line,kite rope for there kids,or even to tie down there pile of junk on a trailer.Im thinkin too much as one of them,but at least i didnt think of using it to tie up a confederate flag as a curtain. |
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| BenR - 9/22/2009 6:14 PM
You could always just steal them from the store as well if you need them that badly...Ben
Picking up bouys is like picking up litter, only better.  |
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Location: Oswego, IL | If there was no boat insight, that bouy is up for grabs, or better yet a fishable area for anyone. You cant mark territory and not be anywhere near it, that BS 101. |
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Location: McGuire AFB, NJ | See I would take the direct approach. I would offer him 2 options. Take his sorry @ss to another spot and appoligize for being a male reproducitve organ or....board his boat like a somilian pirate and put a thumpin on him.
Was fishing a well known lake this weekend and there was of course one of the thousand bass fishing tourneys going on. Had a guy fly in bout twenty yards down line from me. I gave him the stank eye, started my boat and procceded to stop roughly ten yards in front of him. Not one word was said. It didn't need to be said, he knew he was wrong. He started his boat and left.
I treat folks with the up most respect when on the water. Trust me there have been plenty of days that we have that perfect spot picked out. Cruise twenty minutes down lake and find someone fishing it. Owell, to bad go somewhere else. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | Where I fish if you throw a buoy, you have 5 boats there within 15 mins. paint your buoys black if you are using them for casting...makes them less visible to others and you can still fish where you want without the attention. krylon fusion works wonders in satin finish.....gloss blends in too well.
I would take pics of the boat and turn the license no. on the boat into DNR. I've done it before and I will do it again. |
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Location: The desert | Act as if you are hard of hearing, putt over to him while raising your motor so the prop is barely under water. Ask him what he said once up close enough to him. Simply say ok. Get to the correct angle where you can soak him by giving the motor the business, and do so. Then go back to the spot and resume fishing. |
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| Assuming you didn't see the buoy and innocently encountered it without the guide boat in sight I would say your at no fault. I would politely explain to the guide you didn't see the buoy, his boat wasn't there when you pulled up to the spot and he could fish it once your done. Try being polite and respectful and maybe the favor will be returned? However, if his boat was in sight or close by maybe you shouldn't have been on the spot in the first place?
Some people like to be victims... and some guides could be more respectful. |
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Location: Bemidji/Cass Lake | The way I read this is that another boat was nowhere near you when you began fishing, and then suddenly appeared, arriving at a buoy you are near claiming that spot to be their's. As long as you didn't cut them off, there should not be an issue. I'd have words for'em if this happened how you said it. Putting down a buoy does not claim ownership, resorters come up and put a buoy on a spot for their entire trip sometimes, that doesn't make it "their" spot for the whole trip does it?. Anyone putting one out risks others checking it out, if you use them you have to realize that.
BTW, what kind of guide uses a buoy these days? |
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| Sackett - 9/23/2009 1:33 AM BTW, what kind of guide uses a buoy these days? Exactly. If you are a guide, I think it would be reasonable to assume you have GPS. This is not an attack on all guides, even non-guide anglers are guilty of this, but I really am frustrated with a few guides who feel like they own a lake or a spot. I am respectful to others on the water, I can only hope others do the same. If I want to fish a spot and someone else is already fishing there, I will go find a different spot, or I will fish behind the boat. If I'm the second person to the spot, then I should be second in line if I want to fish it. I think some guides start taking fishing too serious as this sport is more about money now rather than just going out and fishing and having fun. It's too bad.
Edited by Baby Mallard 9/23/2009 8:40 AM
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Location: SE Wisconsin | Let's not let this get into a guide bash, one mans mistake isn't anothers. While I would never even think to throw down a marker bouy to mark a fish I want to come back to, this man apparently did and while I can see his dissapointment to find another fisherman on top of that spot, he was out of line in every way according to the story and Brads contact. Too bad there really are people like that out there. I'm numb to that sort of personal aggression in Lake Country, there are so many guys most of the time, going back on a fish sometimes means waiting your turn.
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Location: New Hope MN | am i the only one thinking fire up the motor and circle the structure? Trim the motor WAY up and spray spray spray. |
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| Do they own the lake? Probably not
Were you there first and they were nowhere in sight? If yes, then tell them to get lost |
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Location: Racine, Wi | dtaijo174 - 9/23/2009 8:49 AM
am i the only one thinking fire up the motor and circle the structure? Trim the motor WAY up and spray spray spray.
That's not always a good idea. I've caught plenty of fish right after someone flew off of a spot, and have had buddies tell me that they've caught fish right after I buzzed off of a spot. I think (at least down here where there's lots of pressure and boats), that buzzing around like that kicks the fish out of the weeds and gets them up by your baits. |
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| Lotsa big balls here on the internet...
What would I do? I'd laugh and say "I'm sorry sir, but you must be mistaken. This can't be your spot, because it's on MY lake!" |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | M,
We do not allow personal attacks and vendettas, and if we allowed folks to claim so and so did this or that, we'd spend all day every day trying to verify claims and settle disputes. Not to mention the problem with folks simply making up a story to try to damage someone's reputation...it could happen, and we have better things to do than sit in court defending a libel suit. |
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Location: Musky Country | sworrall - 9/23/2009 10:51 AM
M,
We do not allow personal attacks and vendettas, and if we allowed folks to claim so and so did this or that, we'd spend all day every day trying to verify claims and settle disputes. Not to mention the problem with folks simply making up a story to try to damage someone's reputation...it could happen, and we have better things to do than sit in court defending a libel suit.
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| Hey guide get a gps and wait your turn. Maybe a walleye guide with a buoy. Sounds believable then. Any guide should be used to having someone fishing where they want to. |
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Location: Not where I wanna be! | hahaha, i have yet to have an experience like this on the water.... I tend to be quite defensive and would not respond well to this kind of situation.... It might end up with a certain guide needing to get an oar removed from an orafice.....
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I think he has no claim to the spot but it is his marker, proceed on and fish like you planned too but leave his marker.
I use markers to mark weedbeds in the middle of the river, makes it easier to make my way around. GPS don't work at casting speed and what if weedbed is but 100x50 feet or 1/2x 1/4 miles? Actually seeing that marker on top of the water makes it easyer to know exactly where I am at all times. I also use them to mark follows on large spots as well as hits while trolling large weedlines. none of this can be done with GPS or accurate enough.
Now it may be a dangerous thing to steel someone's marker. I get mine stolen all the time and it peees me off, you get 2 for $5 for gods sake. I was thinking of taping a $5 bill on them with a note to leave mine alone and go buy yourself 2. |
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Staking a claim...what would you do?