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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Hey. I know where to find moonrise and moonset charts online but does anybody have a link to the major and minor times? Thanks |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | http://www.in-fisherman.com/solunar-calendar |
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Location: Madison WI | You shouldn't need a chart to determine when moon overhead, moon underfoot, sun overhead and sun underfoot occur, as long as you know when sunrise, sunset, moon rise and moonset occur. The rotation of the earth doesn't change so finding these times is simple mathematics, ie sunrise is 6 am sunset is 6 pm so sun over head would be at noon.
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Might also want this - http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/pacalc.html
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Location: Minnetonka | 
Edited by Hammskie 9/17/2009 2:51 PM
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | Here's another. Just enter your zip code...
http://www.solunarforecast.com/solunarcalendar.aspx
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY |
thanks guys thats what i was lookin for.
Edited by muskie_man 9/17/2009 2:57 PM
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | Here is a source many find useful:
http://www.solunartables.com/products.html
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Richard Alden Knight's Solunar Tables the real solunar tables. Started by his father John, perfected by Richard, I use them for hunting an fishing and, they work within the limitations listed. |
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| muskyhunter24 - 9/17/2009 2:41 PM
You shouldn't need a chart to determine when moon overhead, moon underfoot, sun overhead and sun underfoot occur, as long as you know when sunrise, sunset, moon rise and moonset occur. The rotation of the earth doesn't change so finding these times is simple mathematics, ie sunrise is 6 am sunset is 6 pm so sun over head would be at noon.
This statement intrigued me enough to look it up. Sadly, I believe you are mistaken both for Madison WI, and Lexington, KY, though, I am suspicious it may be found at some lattitude(that does demark north south, right?) for perhaps one day of the year, if you dig around enough. I am thinking overall this perception will rarely be, in any way accurate enough to fish by, if periods are your thing.
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.php
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Location: Hayward WI | Also, if you've got a Lowrance gps, you can look them up on the water. |
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Location: Ontario | I have the old x-15mt and it does list Moon Phase, as well as Moon Rise+Set and Sun Rise+Set. It's pretty handy. Do the newer model Lowrance units give additional solunar data, like Maj/Min? Thanks. |
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| I use Alden Knight's as well. The only rub is, there are 2 minors and 2 majors each day (granted, some of them take place in the middle of the night), and each minor/major is supposed to be the sweet spot from the beginning of the period until 2 hours after. So, each day there are 8 hours of prime fishing. So yes, I have boated many fish during prime time, but then again there are 8 hours of prime time each day! I find them most helpful when I know I can only find a few hours on a given day to hit the water...so I'll fish one of the majors.
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Location: lake x...where the hell is it? | guys say "fish when you can", but fish the majors if you can. it is the best time to fish hands down!! |
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Location: Twin Cities | sean - 9/18/2009 10:51 AM
I use Alden Knight's as well. The only rub is, there are 2 minors and 2 majors each day (granted, some of them take place in the middle of the night), and each minor/major is supposed to be the sweet spot from the beginning of the period until 2 hours after. So, each day there are 8 hours of prime fishing. So yes, I have boated many fish during prime time, but then again there are 8 hours of prime time each day! I find them most helpful when I know I can only find a few hours on a given day to hit the water...so I'll fish one of the majors.
Sean
So does the window start at the time listed in the book or is it a range around that time? |
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So does the window start at the time listed in the book or is it a range around that time?
JRedig,
If you could answer that question you'd be famous! |
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Location: Twin Cities | Haha, yeah...I'm just curious I guess in people's experience, just how specific to that time to they experience activity? For me it's usually a window of an hour on either side, but that depends on a lot of things obviously... |
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| I spent an entire season fishing the new and full moon phases, trying to hit the majors/minors, expecting to have the most incredible season one could imagine. At one point I had 13 days on the water without a fish... That said, in my experience, there absolutely IS a connection between solunar events and fish activity. I've seen too many moons just coming up over the horizon in my fish pictures over the years to ignore that moonrise means something. Some of the times where I have encountered my biggest fish were within 2-3 minutes of a major period.
As for timing the feeding windows? I still think the best approach to fishing is to fish and hope you encounter one!!  |
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Location: Lake Forest, Illinois | According to the book, the time starts at the stated time and last for up to 2 hours after |
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Location: Madison WI | firstsixfeet - 9/18/2009 9:07 AM
muskyhunter24 - 9/17/2009 2:41 PM
You shouldn't need a chart to determine when moon overhead, moon underfoot, sun overhead and sun underfoot occur, as long as you know when sunrise, sunset, moon rise and moonset occur. The rotation of the earth doesn't change so finding these times is simple mathematics, ie sunrise is 6 am sunset is 6 pm so sun over head would be at noon.
This statement intrigued me enough to look it up. Sadly, I believe you are mistaken both for Madison WI, and Lexington, KY, though, I am suspicious it may be found at some lattitude (that does demark north south, right? ) for perhaps one day of the year, if you dig around enough. I am thinking overall this perception will rarely be, in any way accurate enough to fish by, if periods are your thing.
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.php
I also did some research on this, and found that finding out the actual time for sun under foot and sun overhead can be done with simple mathematics. I found out that the speed of the earth can change but it is such minimal amounts that it won't affect the times (it changes in milliseconds and last full second increase was in December of 1998). |
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| Sunrise and Sunset has nothing to do with moon rise and moon set. They are completely different......... |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | esoxaddict - 9/19/2009 11:34 PM
I spent an entire season fishing the new and full moon phases, trying to hit the majors/minors, expecting to have the most incredible season one could imagine. At one point I had 13 days on the water without a fish... That said, in my experience, there absolutely IS a connection between solunar events and fish activity. I've seen too many moons just coming up over the horizon in my fish pictures over the years to ignore that moonrise means something. Some of the times where I have encountered my biggest fish were within 2-3 minutes of a major period.
As for timing the feeding windows? I still think the best approach to fishing is to fish and hope you encounter one!! ;)
Very true. Fish when you can, but my last two fish have come within five minutes of sunsetl, as well as my biggest earlier this year. |
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | At times I have found the fish to be in sync with the majors and minors and at times no correlation at all. The weather actually seems to make a larger difference and a front coming through will always over rule any solar or lunar activity. The times when the majors/minors seem to make the biggest difference is when the weather is relatively stable. But when there are big fronts or many minor fronts coming through, all bets are off.
We have actually had some of our best outings in high skies with no lunar or solar activity. The Muskies simply wanted to eat. At other times we have not even seen fish when we had everything going for us.
The bottom line is Muskies do what they want and when they want. They are hard to predict at times. Sometimes one can predict them, but just as often they will leave a person guessing. That is what makes them so much fun. 
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | Herb_b - 10/20/2009 9:42 AM
The bottom line is Muskies do what they want and when they want. They are hard to predict at times.
AMEN to that, brother! |
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