Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist
dtaijo174
Posted 9/14/2009 3:07 PM (#399661)
Subject: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist





Posts: 1169


Location: New Hope MN
I can't seem to cast my new Rod & Reel combo. I orginally bought a 8'6" extra heavy St. Croix Prem. & a Saltist 30 no level wind. What a nightmare... I snapped the line during a backlash 4 times loosing the bucktail.

Then I bought the Saltist 30 with levelwind and am still getting mega backlashes. The only difference is that i put 100lbs Power pro on just in case i got a backlash to prevent loosing another lure. The line is ridiculously stiff... I normally use 65 without any troubles.

What's going on? Is it my rod selection? Line selection? Reel?
Basschamp167
Posted 9/14/2009 3:21 PM (#399664 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: RE: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist




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this happens to me as well with my saltist 30 levelwind. try tightening the brakes on the side, the little round knob on the side next to the handle and drag lever. also, some say that it helps to not fill your spool to the point where line will leave the spool at a downward sloping angle out of the levelwind. never tried that though
Basschamp167
dogonpoint
Posted 9/14/2009 3:41 PM (#399669 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist




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I've found that with the real long rods and the saltist you really do have to let the rod do the work and not try to really cast too hard. I had the same problems early on, now it seems fine.
muskiewhored
Posted 9/14/2009 4:10 PM (#399675 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist





Location: Oswego, IL
You will have to get used to it, do not go for a bomb shot right away, work yourself into getting a good cast. I also would suggest tightening the knob as well and keep your thumb on the line the entire cast. It took me sometime to get used to it myself. Keep trying you will be fine.
Cowboyhannah
Posted 9/14/2009 4:46 PM (#399686 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist





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Location: Kronenwetter, WI
Yes---some issues here as well, especially INTO the wind---lost a couple baits, too that way. For me, too, looks like the spring or whatever holds the lever into position broke, but it still works. Having some issues as well with the drag locking up and the reel locking and not turning forward--coupla' thumps clears that right up, though. The thing is going to have to go back, but not until the season is finished.
muskiewhored
Posted 9/14/2009 5:23 PM (#399694 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist





Location: Oswego, IL
Ouch! So put that in the books as the first one I heard of breaking.
JRedig
Posted 9/14/2009 6:20 PM (#399704 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist




Location: Twin Cities
If you guys are snapping baits off, you are throwing too hard. As stated, let the rod do the work...when you get it right, you can finesse a bait way farther, I find my saltist out casting TE's and curado's 300's no problem.
Windburn
Posted 9/14/2009 6:54 PM (#399711 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist




Posts: 115


Location: Birch Run
Your rod is fine, I have the same rod and reel setup. Don't overcast, adjust brake (as mentioned before). It will make a huge difference if you add weight to your big bucktails. I have used up to 2oz's in heavy wind, helps a ton and you can get more speed and reach a little deeper. Also line conditioner will help that 100lb. Everyone has had the same problems, the first time out I wanted to throw the reel in the drink.
Muskiemetal
Posted 9/14/2009 8:50 PM (#399744 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist





Posts: 676


Location: Wisconsin
Don't have the spool too full, that will help.
Pay very close to the spool tension, very small adjustments.
Like said before, let the rod do the work and make sure to thumb the spool ( I tend to run on the "loose" side of the spool tension)

Yes, it does take some getting used to, but once you do, the rewards are the retrieve and fish handling, which is incredible.

Good luck.
nclaker
Posted 9/14/2009 10:48 PM (#399775 - in reply to #399675)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist




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muskiewhored - 9/14/2009 4:10 PM

You will have to get used to it, do not go for a bomb shot right away, work yourself into getting a good cast. I also would suggest tightening the knob as well and keep your thumb on the line the entire cast. It took me sometime to get used to it myself. Keep trying you will be fine.

Ditto on this advice ... One other tip once you get use to casting with this reel. If you are right handed retrieve, and you aren't already comfortable casting with your left hand holding & thumbing the reel - definitely commit to doing so, especially with this reel. It makes it a LOT easier to work the manual spool release lever, and you don't have to worry about switching hands and fumbing with reengaging the spool lock. Once you get use to casting with the left, you will find it comes in handy with all your reels to give you more flexibility on casting and give your right hand a break once in a while.
dtaijo174
Posted 9/15/2009 10:25 AM (#399834 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist





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Location: New Hope MN
Guys thanks for the tips. I'll do think it's spooled a bit much and I'l "try" to not bomb cast. I still wonder if my 100lbs test line isn't too much.
Cowboyhannah
Posted 9/15/2009 10:30 AM (#399836 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist





Posts: 1455


Location: Kronenwetter, WI
Just got off the phone with Chuck---told him about no tension on the casting lever---said the spring likely broke or jumped off---Problem is that I continued using it b/c it was still working...bigger problem is that the freezing of the spool/handle/drag was likely caused by the spring going through those big-'ol gears....ouch!

Moral of the story---if that spring goes and you lose tension on the casting lever, DO NOT CONTINUE USING! Spring replacement is cheap, gear replacement BAD.

Gotta' say, I would buy another one of these reels--I really do like it even with the spring problem. Not every product is going to operate perfectly.

Edited by Cowboyhannah 9/15/2009 10:32 AM
muskiewhored
Posted 9/15/2009 11:58 AM (#399855 - in reply to #399836)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist





Location: Oswego, IL
Cowboyhannah - 9/15/2009 10:30 AM

Not every product is going to operate perfectly.



Nicely said!
nclaker
Posted 9/15/2009 1:10 PM (#399867 - in reply to #399834)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist




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dtaijo174 - 9/15/2009 10:25 AM

Guys thanks for the tips. I'll do think it's spooled a bit much and I'l "try" to not bomb cast. I still wonder if my 100lbs test line isn't too much.


IMO 100# line is just fine for the 30/40 size Saltist. I have 100# Suffix Braid, and it has been working great! Thicker line is easier to work out backlashes, less likely to lose your lure if you have a bad one on the cast, and I don't think it is as likely to bury into itself as easy with the thicker line.

One other note, make sure your line is spooled onto the reel very tightly. If it is nice and tight, it should cast better & less likely to bury into itself (which contributes to backlash issues). If the spool feels spongy when you squeeze it, then let out the line and reel it back in tight. You can do this on the water and use a hard pulling bait to retieve it back in.

Edited by nclaker 9/15/2009 1:15 PM
Windburn
Posted 9/15/2009 6:13 PM (#399969 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist




Posts: 115


Location: Birch Run
Hey Cowboy had the same thing happen, no tension with the lever, continued to use and everthing started to grind shortly after. Daiwa had it back within 3 weeks and just payed for shipping.
Cowboyhannah
Posted 10/2/2009 10:29 PM (#402991 - in reply to #399661)
Subject: Re: Backlash city: Troubles with Saltist





Posts: 1455


Location: Kronenwetter, WI
Windburn---same good customer service here. Just got mine back today less than two weeks turnaround no charge!!!