guiding for a resort
Guest
Posted 8/23/2009 6:36 PM (#395526)
Subject: guiding for a resort


Anyone know any resorts that need or want a muskie guide? I would love to do it! If you know of any just say and I would give them a call and talk to em.
Thanks!!!
Guest
Posted 8/23/2009 7:58 PM (#395538 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort


It is pretty late in the season for it
Guest
Posted 8/24/2009 7:25 AM (#395580 - in reply to #395538)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort


I was thinkin next season
ChinWhiskers
Posted 8/24/2009 10:14 AM (#395613 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort




Posts: 518


Location: Cave Run Lake KY.
If guest registers his name and Email address on to Muskies first . he will get some info for next summer. Marv.
50"skie
Posted 8/24/2009 12:27 PM (#395651 - in reply to #395613)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort





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ChinWhiskers - 8/24/2009 10:14 AM If guest registers his name and Email address on to Muskies first . he will get some info for next summer. Marv.
That Guest was me, I wasn't logged in though. My e-mail is [email protected] Thanks Marv

Edited by 50"skie 8/24/2009 12:54 PM
ChinWhiskers
Posted 8/24/2009 6:35 PM (#395740 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort




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Location: Cave Run Lake KY.
( OK"") Try Witch Bay Camp on lake of the wood's about ten years ago a Guide friend spent the musky season there as camp guide, was a one year thing,for him as he was In his last year of school. He said it was great. Good Luck with your search, and have some sort of fishing history info for the camp to look at. Marv.
fishcrazed
Posted 8/24/2009 8:46 PM (#395768 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: Re: guiding for a resort




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Location: indiana
a "southerner" can't just go to a camp in canada and guide for them. i was informed this summer up there that you must own a business or camp and own at least 50 percent of it to guide out of the camp as a non-resident. somebody correct me if i am misinformed. don't mean to burst any bubbles, just letting you know what i found out. it would be awesome to try and guide for a summer up north.
ChinWhiskers
Posted 8/24/2009 11:40 PM (#395823 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort




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Location: Cave Run Lake KY.
fish - - It used to be you had to work for the resort and have some sort of visa thru the resort, you had to get the permit for a certian time frame (ie fishing sesson). The resort sets up the paper work for the year. this can change every year. Some of the big name Pro Guides do this every year.
Dave Williamson
Posted 8/25/2009 1:49 AM (#395827 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort





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Location: Alexandria, Minnesota
I love the notion that you can just show up to lake that you do not know and become a guide. There is a lot more to guiding than that. It takes years to figure out a lakes quirks and patterns before you should charge anyone to go fishing with you. Find a lake get to know it like the back of your hand and then thinking about guiding.
Jason Hillman
Posted 8/25/2009 8:23 AM (#395843 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort


If you want to guide on LOTW, you can try a resort on the NW angle. When I was in College, I went up and worked at a camp on the NW angle for a summer. You could also try a resort on Oak or Flag Island. If you've never fished LOTW, i'm not sure I would recommend it tho, the lake is huge and you really need to know your business out there, especially if someone is gonna be giving you their money. Plus most people that fish LOTW and hire a guide, atleast from my experience are walleye fisherman. So you need to be a versatille guide and be able to put people on all species of fish if need be. Unless you are doug johnson, bill sandy, dick pearson or any of the other big name guides, I wouldn't rely too much on Muskie fisherman for guiding business.

I've been going up there now for 8 years since I worked there and that lake still get's the better of me most years.

I couldn't work at a Canadian resort due to the visa issues and such, so the NW angle was the best option I had. Did some guiding on the side, but most of the work i did was just resort help. Mowing, gassing boats, trash duty, etc...but I did get quite a bit of free time to fish.

That's just my opinions and 2 cents from my experience working and going every summer since. If you have any other questions I'd be more than happy to help if I can. [email protected]
Guest
Posted 8/25/2009 8:32 AM (#395847 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort


I agree with Williamson. It amazes me how many guys think they have the experience, time on the water, and knowledge to guide.
It takes more than catching a few big fish to think you can teach others how to do it and charge money on a lake you potentially have never fished?
I respect your passion and zest for the sport 50"skie but imo you might want to fish the lake a couple summers before ever thinking about charging money to put people on fish.
Guest
Posted 8/25/2009 8:53 AM (#395851 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort


50"Ski: Jason Hillman seems to have the best advice on here. Everyone else apparently just wants to be a jerk. But that's the internet for you. My advice is to email Jason for more info on his experience and ignore everyone else.
Dave Williamson
Posted 8/26/2009 2:29 PM (#396165 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: RE: guiding for a resort





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Location: Alexandria, Minnesota
The reason I get so heated about this subject is that I have come across a few guys this year that are calling themselves guides and charging people to go fishing with them. One guy the other day he said he is guiding two to three times a week. I asked him how many fish is his best year of fishing he said around 20 fish and then I asked him how many fish he has boated this year in his boat. He told me 5 but they have seen quit a few. I do this for a living do think the people that spent their hard earned money are ever going to hire another guide after that experience with this guy. Also I asked him if he carried insurance for being a guide outfitter he looked like a deer in the head lights.

It took me 8 years of fishing and I caught 100's of muskies before I decided to guide on full time basis. I just don't understand where 20 fish in the boat for a year qualifies someone to be a guide.
50"skie
Posted 8/26/2009 3:10 PM (#396177 - in reply to #395526)
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I was looking for more of just a place to be a dock boy or help out around the resort, then maybe if someone staying at the resort isn't seeing anything then on my off time I would guide them. Its just that I just moved to PA a week ago and I hate moving away from the musky crowd. I just need a way to Musky fish in MN or WI or even Canada for the summer time.
esox50
Posted 8/26/2009 3:20 PM (#396180 - in reply to #396177)
Subject: Re: guiding for a resort





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That's an entirely different matter! I'd say begin with areas you'd like to be located in and start finding as many resorts as possible. Then get on the phone (I'd say avoid email if you are looking for a yes/no answer) and start inquiring. If you contact Canadian resorts make sure you explicitly tell them you are a US citizen. You will need some sort of work permit to be up there, paid by Canadians, and be there legally. They WILL ask you at the border, so if you land a job up there be prepared to give customs the appropriate documentation.
Flambeauski
Posted 8/26/2009 3:29 PM (#396185 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: Re: guiding for a resort




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Location: Smith Creek
I think the PA guys get some some pretty big muskies over there. Do some research, you might be surprised what's in your own back yard.
esox911
Posted 8/26/2009 7:02 PM (#396229 - in reply to #396185)
Subject: Re: guiding for a resort




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Gotta Love all the MUSKY EXPERTS telling this young man how hard their job is and that only an expert like themselves can do it. I say good luck to young man and some have offered great advice on how to accomplish your dream--Don't get discouraged and continue to seek out advice from those who choose to offer it with an open hand. I did exactly what you are trying to do for 4 summers up in Northern WI. Still have friends today 35 years later who helped me and took me under their wing so to speak. I also got the opportunity to share some things I learned with guests of the resort who I would fish with--Again I still fish with a couple of these people today that I met and shared info with back then. Good Luck to you and keep working at it.
50"skie
Posted 8/26/2009 7:08 PM (#396231 - in reply to #395526)
Subject: Re: guiding for a resort





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Thank you esox911, and I bet most of you are woundering, I am going to turn 16 in November.