Contrast or Blending In
257ROBT
Posted 8/15/2009 9:30 PM (#394330)
Subject: Contrast or Blending In




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Ran across this video and found it pretty interesting:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7916533719290606424&ei=QW6H...

I also have heard others talk that you want contrast in baits. I have a copy of Musky Hunter that talks about lure color versus blue, green, and red water. Black and FireTiger were readliy visible in all three photos.

So, what are your thoughts.

Dale
Cast
Posted 8/16/2009 2:59 PM (#394371 - in reply to #394330)
Subject: RE: Contrast or Blending In


I'm sure he's a great angler, but it doesn't make sense to me. Skis are basically sight hunters, right? Why would you not want them to see a clear outline of the bait, if the lure color is not too far from common forage?
jlong
Posted 8/16/2009 4:36 PM (#394392 - in reply to #394371)
Subject: RE: Contrast or Blending In





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Location: Black Creek, WI
Well... muskies also rely heavily on their lateral line for feeding.... so??

I subscribe to Saric's philosophy.... especially on heavily pressured waters or when using aggressive "reaction strike" type presentations. The less a fish can see the details of your lure, the less likely it is to "See" something that will turn it off.

Also, contrast within a lure pattern can serve as camouflage. I think that is how firetiger stripes and the "black dot" patterns evolved. Take an extremely visible lure of a single color (flo. orange or chartruese)... and make it more difficult to focus on by adding edges (stripes/dots). The fish can really notice these lures yet have hard time focusing on it.
Roughneck1860
Posted 8/16/2009 6:11 PM (#394405 - in reply to #394392)
Subject: RE: Contrast or Blending In





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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair
jlong - 8/16/2009 5:36 PM

The fish can really notice these lures yet have hard time focusing on it.


Bingo...!!!! At certain times of the year we have what we call Blue Frog or Helin Frog water. If either of these two baits disappear when you drop them in......look out!!!!

Good Fishin'
Tim
257ROBT
Posted 8/16/2009 9:22 PM (#394444 - in reply to #394392)
Subject: RE: Contrast or Blending In




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jlong - 8/16/2009 4:36 PM

Well... muskies also rely heavily on their lateral line for feeding.... so??

I subscribe to Saric's philosophy.... especially on heavily pressured waters or when using aggressive "reaction strike" type presentations. The less a fish can see the details of your lure, the less likely it is to "See" something that will turn it off.

Also, contrast within a lure pattern can serve as camouflage. I think that is how firetiger stripes and the "black dot" patterns evolved. Take an extremely visible lure of a single color (flo. orange or chartruese)... and make it more difficult to focus on by adding edges (stripes/dots). The fish can really notice these lures yet have hard time focusing on it.


I can agree with this.

As far as the article in Musky Hunter mentions lures changing colors at difference distances when in the water. I would guess that solid blacks works well then because the color stays constant at all distances.
mota
Posted 8/17/2009 1:53 PM (#394553 - in reply to #394330)
Subject: Re: Contrast or Blending In


all good guess,but never forget something,musky have a brain smaller than a olive
bobtodd
Posted 8/17/2009 2:56 PM (#394563 - in reply to #394330)
Subject: Re: Contrast or Blending In





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Location: Central WI
I fish the WI river which has about a foot or two of clarity. I think if the fish went by sight they would starve. Black seems to work well.
Beaver
Posted 8/17/2009 10:49 PM (#394659 - in reply to #394563)
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When I paint lures I try to incorporate some contrast even in natural pattern. A spot, a line even just some highlighting in the right area. Big eyes will help a lure to stand out even if the lure is a totally natural pattern. Fish will react to vibration or movement and then hone in on their prey using their eyesight. It's hard to make a lure invisible, because I can't think of a lure that is made that runs and hides from a muskie.
I've caught fish on gaudy lures and natural colors. Much has to do with the water color and clarity, but a lure that moves water will get eaten regardless of the color.
Different lakes have different 'hot colors', but not all of the fish come on one color pattern. I will always like a bit of contrast on my lures just to make them more visible just like in the wild. Muskies seem to find all of the food that they need even though it is all naturally colored.
Throw what you like. They all get bit if you are lucky enough to throw it in front of an agressive hungry fish.
Beav
jlong
Posted 8/18/2009 9:50 AM (#394670 - in reply to #394659)
Subject: Re: Contrast or Blending In





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Location: Black Creek, WI
I agree with Beav!

As for a musky having a small brain... I feel that is irrelevant with this discussion. Camouflage is for real and a natural phenomena in nature. Humans just understand why/how it works. The GUESSES on this forum is our attempt to figure out how to apply that knowledge to catch more and bigger muskies.

Take the Zebra for example. Those stripes serve a purpose. To protect the herd from predation. Why do you think cisco school up when under attack from a musky? Etc. Etc.