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Location: Syracuse, Indiana | No, I don't mean long and skinny (far from it). Having just spent a week on Sabaskong, I realize my nearly 50 year old body is not in shape to fish muskies. I did it, but it wore me out. Too much desk time anymore. Does anyone have a good workout regimen that I could use to get me in better shape to throw muskie baits all day, every day, for a week or more? |
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| I had the same problem a couple weeks ago on my vacation. This may be one of those million dollar ideas, Okay hundred dollar ideas. Devlope a workout video for old out of shape muskie anglers. . |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | The only cure that I've found for this is less time off between outings to help build up your endurance. There's only so much you can do that will imitate/duplicate what you put your body through with chucking big baits all day. Of course that doesn't help when you can only get out every so often!
Aaron
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Location: New Hope MN | Here’s a pretty intense 3 day/week routine that I have modified for more endurance.
If you only want to work out once a week, just PM me and I’ll work something out. It won’t be as good.
Day 1
Chest
Barbell Flat Press 3 x 12-15
Incline Barbell Press 3 x 12-15
Cable Flys/Cross overs 2 x 12-15
Triceps
Cable Pushdowns 3 x 12-15
Dips (assisted if necessary) 3 x 12-15
Abs
Flex-Ball Crunches 3 x 12-20
Day 2
Back
Lateral Pull Down 3 x 12-15
T-Bar/Cable Rows 3 x 12-15
Hyper Extensions 3 x 12-15
Biceps
Cable Curls 2 x 12-15
Dumbell Curls 2 x 12-15
Cardio
Low Intensity 30-45 mins
Day 3
Shoulders
Front dumbbell Raises 2 x 15-20
Reverse Flys 2 x 15-20
Dumbbell Military Press 2 x 15-20
Abs
Lying Leg Raises 2 x 12-20
Flex-ball Crunches 2 x 12-20
Russian Twist 2 x 12-20
Wrists
Behind Back Wrist Curls 2 x 20+
Reverse bicep curls 2 x 20+
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| Don't forget your legs! Or I'll call you chicken little with those chicken legs, hahaha. I think it is just important to keep your legs strong for muskie fishing as well. Standing all day long can become tiring.
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| In the spring, I switch to 16 oz and 24 oz beers, that does the trick!  |
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Location: Racine, Wi | Beer man - 7/28/2009 1:54 PM
In the spring, I switch to 16 oz and 24 oz beers, that does the trick! ;)
Glad to see someone else here does the same workout I do.  |
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Baby Mallard - 7/28/2009 1:50 PM Don't forget your legs! Or I'll call you chicken little with those chicken legs, hahaha. I think it is just important to keep your legs strong for muskie fishing as well. Standing all day long can become tiring. EXTREMELY important and excellent point! Everyone always does upper body upper body upper body. Your legs carry you around all day everyday so they'd better be just as fit as your upper body. |
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Joel,
The only crulls your doing are at the bar with a beer in your hand.....haaaaaaaaa. I'll be the 1st to agree that I can't fish like I used to, though I think the method is to keep your legs in shape. Do some walking or riding the bike. Were going to enter a couple of Ironmans this fall, that should be interesting. Now I know why a lot of the older guys sucker fish and win more than us. Let me know if you can find the magic cure and be legal?
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Location: Warroad, Mn | I'm 70!!!!! But I fish muskies about seven months a year. There's nothing like fishing every day to get you in fishing shape. I currently fish 10-11 hour days seven day a week, and nothing hurts! I can pull DCGs all day with out a problem. More fishing is the solution, not lifting weights!!!!! Doug Johnson |
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| Not a fix, but more of a bandaid is ibuprofen. It at least deadens the pain and kind of helps the muscles relax as they tend to tense up when stressed. |
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Location: Brookfield, WI | Try the Wii Fit yoga. My Wife has been doing it in the morning to improve strength and flexibility. I've been watching her do it on Saturday and Sunday mornings before we head to the golf course, and I have to tell you, at 48, I've been playing my best golf in the last 20 some years.
Kevin
Never sneak up on a man that's been in a chemical fire. |
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Location: Oregon | If you select a regimen that is not too extreme you will be far more likely to stay with it over time. If you push too hard you will likely get burned out and be done with it in a few weeks. Choose a more modest program and plan on doing it for the long haul. You can easily get a good workout at home with little or no exercise equipment. I also sit at a desk all day and so long as I am doing these exercises I feel great. I usally work out while I watch tv.
1. Pushups..........great exercise for arms, back, shoulders, chest. If you can't do the regular ones start out on your knees, your strength will increase quickly. Don't do these everyday......maybe 3 days a week.
2. Wall squats...........with your back against a door, squat down until your legs are at a 90 degree angle and then back up again. You can also do these without the wall..........they will nail your legs! I usually do them 2 or 3 days a week.
3. Barbell curls and tricep extensions laying on your back. I do these 3 days or more a week because I enjoy them.
4. Crunches......miserable exercise but good for your lower back and mid-section.
5. Walk for 20-30 minutes 3-5 days a week. This is really impt for maintaing balance and stamina.
If you want to simplify this program even further...........do just pushups, wall squats, and walk!!
Jed
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| "5. Walk for 20-30 minutes 3-5 days a week. This is really impt for maintaing balance and stamina. "
Jed has good advice. Make sure you walk. If you find yourself out of breathe, please see a doctor....soon.
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Location: APPLETON, WI | dougj - 7/28/2009 9:01 PM
I'm 70!!!!! But I fish muskies about seven months a year. There's nothing like fishing every day to get you in fishing shape. I currently fish 10-11 hour days seven day a week, and nothing hurts! I can pull DCGs all day with out a problem. More fishing is the solution, not lifting weights!!!!! Doug Johnson
I hope one day when I'm 70 years old... I'll be able to have the means to fish every day, all day. Sounds like you're living the dream! |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I lift 3-5 x per week year round and even though doing that helps there is nothing better to work the muscles you use casting big baits all day than simply doing it...but lifting sure does help....
If Doug J can put in those hours at 70 us younger fellas have nothing to complain about ! ; ) |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | Since I have been dealing with back problems since Dec. I can say that stretching is just as important as the working out part. As a few others already brought up your legs are very important especially if you want to reduce/eliminate any possible back problems (largest muscle in the body and has a lot to do with your lower back). I have learned the hard way. Do some ham and quad stretches. Also do some calf and glute (butt) stretches. Stretch each side equally otherwise you can cause problems. From there stretch your back, triceps, and chest. Everything is connected and over time if you are not doing everything properly it will all go to hell in a handbag like it did for me. Do a search on the net and I am sure you could find some back stretches to do.
While I am still fighting my back issues stretching is one thing that makes it better for me while on the water. Better than pain killers and muscle relaxants! I haven’t been doing it, but Yoga is a good suggestion. In other words some kind of relaxing technique. Your muscles need to relax, and when they don’t things don’t operate properly and start to cause big issues.
On top of that take a look at also having lefty and righty set-ups. Run your trolling motor with both legs (not at once silly). One of my issues stems from always doing everything from one side. Always jerking/holding rod on left side. Always supporting myself with the left leg while running the trolling motor. Yada, yada, yada. This has thrown my body alignment all out of whack.
Hopefully I can keep some others from going through what I have been going through! This has been an eye opener for me since I am only 32, and I thought I was in fairly decent shape.
Oh yeh, nothing is better for getting in shape than being on the water all the time.
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Location: Cave Run Lake KY. | Doug. IM allso 70, and find it hard to find 45 year olds that can fish a 10 hr. day. I take them fishing one time and they never come back for more fun. Ill have to move to Minn. to find fishing partners. I try to fish at least 3 days a week but I have to save time to cut brush and haul it off. I live in the Daniel Boone National Forest and it never stops growing. I worked 32 years in the Evenrude factory in Milwaukee grinding V6 crankshafts lots of 10 and 12 Hr. days. I stay in shape by hunting the hill country around Cave Run Lake. Bow Hunt. Gun hunt, Muzzleload, deer. Take my Ruger 22 out Squirrel hunting. and still find time to fish. I dont have time for guys that complane that they are not in shape to bad get a life. Doug, come on down some winter day and send a day casting with me if the reels freze up we can troll. Take Care see you on the water casting #ers. Marv. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Lots of great advice above, just one thing I'm going to add (and this isn't a personal comment to you Mr. Cates, but to everyone): lose weight. It sounds simple, and I of all people would disagree with that! However, think of it in the simple terms of as if you're dragging around less of you, it's less strain on you.
I've lost about 35lbs in the last year and outside of going on the crazy atkins like diet I do, the best advice I can give anyone is this: think about what you eat. As yourself questions like "am I eating because I'm hungry or because that's yummy?" or "is there really ANYTHING nutritous in this meal?". TASTE and YUMMINESS ARE NOT pre-requisites to food. I know it's boring, and a drag, but a few more salads and a few less burgers and you're helping the cause. Or, if you're going to eat a burger, ditch the bun, don't glom on a gallon of kethup or mayo. The bun has about as much nutrional value as the napkin you wipe your face off with and the kethup/mayo are just extra salt, fat and carbs that do NOTHING positive for you.
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| I second what Slamr and Travis say. Slamr on the weight thing, Travis on the switching up thing.
Here's a couple of easy things to do. When going to the store, park on the far end of the lot, it forces you to walk a little further. Take the stairs instead of the elevator.
Like Travis said, switch up the casting, standing, retrieving, trolling motor runnning and all the repetitive actions that go with musky fishing.
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| "I lift 3-5 x per week year round and even though doing that helps there is nothing better to work the muscles you use casting big baits all day than simply doing it...but lifting sure does help.... "
Dude, you might want to start putting some plates on that bar once in awhile...hehehehe.
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| How good of shape do you want to be in? What works for me is to work out or jog seven days per week. Day one do an indoor routine with a barbell set and calisthentics. Day two jog.
With the indoor routine you can develop a light workout, a medium, and a serious. Just add more sets to your routine. Suggested:
1. Bench/floor press
2. Military press
3. Row press
4. Marine press
5. Curls
6. Sit-ups with weights behind head
7. Six inch leg raises.
You don't have to use a lot of weight to get a lot of benefit. Works over the upper body pretty well.
Jogging? Work your way up to 1.5 miles. That's enough. Go at your own pace. Walk as much as possible. Our legs are meant to be used.
I do this without problem at 54. |
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| I didn't say what I lift...it could be 16 oz coors lights 3-5 x a week.... ; )
yah, I'm so weak... |
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| Portions of this thread are almost as embarrassing as the many, "I sank a hook into myself and got an owwie and
went to da doctor" threads.
What next, how to care for your nails?
Diets, workouts. maybe we need a musky spa for treatments?
Fish or get outta da boat!
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Location: Seymour, WI | The only thing I can add to what's been said already is try to get a good nights rest. It took me a long time to figure this out, but when I used to golf alot I noticed that my scores were always lower if I got a good nights rest the night before. Rest will keep your mind and body sharp for a long day on the water. Stretching, hydration and vitamins can help too.
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| Cardio conditioning is much more important than lifting weights. You can have big muscles and still be out of shape. Staying in shape means you have to exercise. |
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Location: Ames, Iowa | If you 're nearing 50 like I am- 2 weeks to go- my advice is to sell the weight bench to a 15 year old. It's not likely that 50 year olds are going to incorporate a wt training regimen into their daily habits. Be realistic- we just don't have the time and likely won't make the time. Habits are built from starting something simple and painless. Get outside and make a habit of walking right after work, swim if you can, do yardwork, weeding(stretching) clean out the garage, the attic - do something every day. Watch what you eat. Juice. Lose some weight and work to keep it off.
I have suffered from a back injury since January. Gave up on the chiro- I have found that time, stretching, rest, and being smart about what I do with my back are best for me. I have to be ready for football practice when it starts late August and wrestling when it starts November- lost my eligibility a long time ago, so no weights for me at this time.
Wish I could fish every day too- that is a great workout. Maybe in 10 years.
Good luck,
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Location: Twin Cities, MN | Lots of good tips
Walking everyday and doing circuit training 2 times a week will go a long way to start and then you can adjust from their to what you are looking for long term. Make sure you stretch before each workout, including before you start fishing.
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | firstsixfeet, how old are you? I'm thinking your still pretty young as I am. I use to think the same as you until this year opened my eyes. I am not overweight, and had been in overall good health.
Due to neglegting being smart and taking care of myself things took a turn for the worse. I would fish 18 hrs straight ripping Jakes and other cranks. I took pride in being able to put in the long hours otherscouldn't or wouldn't. I still can put in more hours than a lot. However, the years of standing in the boat for long hours and taxing my body has taken it's toll. Being foolish and a whimp to me now is the person that doesn't think of what their actions may cause down the road. I will be and am changing the way I fish so that 10 years from now I can fish for muskies with my children.
Everybody is different, and can their bodies can handle different stuff. I am thinking Doug can handle what he does at his age because he hasn't ripped Jakes and other cranks all his life, hasn't thrown pounders all day for years, and hasn't been burning double #10's for 10 years for hours on end.
I can tell you all right now I wish I would have taken things a bit more seriously as it would be a lot easier doing a few stretches and exercises each day and feel good than having to do them anyway to get rid of numbness and tingling!
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"yah, I'm so weak..."
We know that, and why you should use some actual weights and not those little jazzercize rubber deals. Switching from the girly beer to Point might help too. Just a few tips, cause we care.
In reality, this is a great thread. got me to realize that no matter the age, we're not invincable. What I really need is for the double 5 willow blade revolution to come around, so I can quit witht the 10's for awhile. Someone get that going please... |
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Location: Syracuse, Indiana | LOT'S of good info. Thanks! |
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Location: Spencer, Wisconsin | I like Beer Man's analogy; lifting weights 12 ounces at a time then switching to the shot and a braut keeps this getting close to the 50 body in shape. Seriously though, I get allot of walking time in at work being in the shop and trying to limit the desk time as much as possible. Moderate lifting does help keep the muscles in somewhat shape but the more time out on the water I find my endurance does pickup when it comes to the tourney time! |
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Location: Milwaukee, WI | Some good info is at the Angling Edge website from one of the Lindner's sons; Troy Lindner's: "Fit for Fishing"
http://www.anglingedge.com/grfx2/F4F_web.pdf
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I am not in muskie shape!