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Location: Maplewood, MN | I'm becoming a big fan of phantoms after using them for the first time with 5 follows. who else is loving these babies? |
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Location: Madison WI | If your referring to the phantoms with the softtails then I love the action they have and I have found out that unless the weed tops are 6 inches from the surface or less you can work this bait everywhere and anywhere. |
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| muskyhunter24 - 6/9/2009 1:51 AM
If your referring to the phantoms with the softtails then I love the action they have and I have found out that unless the weed tops are 6 inches from the surface or less you can work this bait everywhere and anywhere.
Ya i agree with this post because that tail is always moving even on the pause and that can be the difference between a strike or not. But the origanals are nice too. |
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Location: Minneapolis | muskyhunter24 - 6/9/2009 2:51 AM
If your referring to the phantoms with the softtails then I love the action
I'll be the contrarian. I MUCH prefer the orginal phantoms without the soft tails. The tail does move nicely in the water, but it kills the "death shimmy" that makes phantoms so productive. |
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Location: Madison WI | rpike - 6/9/2009 10:44 AM
muskyhunter24 - 6/9/2009 2:51 AM
If your referring to the phantoms with the softtails then I love the action
I'll be the contrarian. I MUCH prefer the orginal phantoms without the soft tails. The tail does move nicely in the water, but it kills the "death shimmy" that makes phantoms so productive.
When your referring to the death shimmy are you talking about what a hellhound does on the pause, cause the softail phantoms do the same thing but with the tail fluttering on the pause. |
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Location: syracuse indiana | all i can say about todd's phantoms is they are the shiznit.. i am known as the "phantom horder" i have well over 30 of them...bill |
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Location: Minneapolis | muskyhunter24 - 6/9/2009 12:21 PM
rpike - 6/9/2009 10:44 AM
muskyhunter24 - 6/9/2009 2:51 AM
If your referring to the phantoms with the softtails then I love the action
I'll be the contrarian. I MUCH prefer the orginal phantoms without the soft tails. The tail does move nicely in the water, but it kills the "death shimmy" that makes phantoms so productive.
When your referring to the death shimmy are you talking about what a hellhound does on the pause, cause the softail phantoms do the same thing but with the tail fluttering on the pause.
I mean the shimmy as its swinging to the side and flashing its belly. The soft tails seem more manta-like on the swing. I also have to throw a lot more slack with the soft tails to get them swinging. With hard phantoms, I can almost get them to spin in their tracks when I want to. |
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Location: Madison WI | rpike - 6/10/2009 12:45 PM
muskyhunter24 - 6/9/2009 12:21 PM
rpike - 6/9/2009 10:44 AM
muskyhunter24 - 6/9/2009 2:51 AM
If your referring to the phantoms with the softtails then I love the action
I'll be the contrarian. I MUCH prefer the orginal phantoms without the soft tails. The tail does move nicely in the water, but it kills the "death shimmy" that makes phantoms so productive.
When your referring to the death shimmy are you talking about what a hellhound does on the pause, cause the softail phantoms do the same thing but with the tail fluttering on the pause.
I mean the shimmy as its swinging to the side and flashing its belly. The soft tails seem more manta-like on the swing. I also have to throw a lot more slack with the soft tails to get them swinging. With hard phantoms, I can almost get them to spin in their tracks when I want to.
Are you using a fluoro or wire leader, I have tried both and the single strand piano wire leaders really make the softails shine. When I do a pull the bait moves toward me maybe 6-10 inches at the most.
Edited by muskyhunter24 6/10/2009 1:49 PM
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| I just picked up a couple softtails this winter and really like them. First time throwing them and they look great. Haven't tried the ones without tails.
I'm wondering when I get my first follow how I'm going to get them to eat it at the side of the boat. Fast into the 8 or let it hang? |
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| Let it hang for a couple seconds, then go into the 8. |
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| I can't say enough good things about phantoms! I love the rolls, ups & downs, everything about them. I have been using the softtails and they have been getting chewed I have one regular in bleeding sucker and that thing looks awesome way different action. I have not thrown it alot yet because it is the bigger one and I have been letting spring get a little further along until I throw bigger. I lost my canidian crush 2 nights ago and I intend to do some wading this weekend to get it back if not, I already have one in my cart at R&H..
Good luck gentleman!
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| Great bait no doubt. Effective and easy to work. In fact, it's the first jerkbait I grab if I'm trying to teach a newbie. Personally prefer the softtail and have had best results with a straight wire leader with a simple loop in the front instead of the usual hardware.
http://www.bigwoodmuskylures.com
Edited by kyle@bigwoodmuskylur 6/12/2009 10:21 PM
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Location: Corning, Iowa | I've got some 8 inch Phantoms I bought used, maybe 5-6 years ago. Never use them. Are some of them wood, and some plastic, and how can you tell the difference? thanks Doug |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | All of the new ones (about the last 2 years or so) are made of plastic. If you picked them up 5-6 years ago they are going to be wood ones. Wood or plastic, I wouldn't be concerned. They all work great.
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