10" Suick Middle Hook?
Baby Mallard
Posted 5/19/2009 6:00 PM (#379306)
Subject: 10" Suick Middle Hook?





To remove or not remove, that is the question? I would really like to remove the middle treble hook on the suick because I hate having 3 trebles so close together. Do you guys think it will cost me fish if I do? I know fish like to T-bone baits, but maybe the fish will still get hooked on the front or back. It is a huge pain unhooking a fish with the 3 trebles so close. Any opinions?
Jsondag
Posted 5/19/2009 7:01 PM (#379318 - in reply to #379306)
Subject: Re: 10" Suick Middle Hook?





Posts: 692


Location: Pelican Rapids, MN
When I remove a hook on a jerk or crank, it is usually the tail hook. If removing the middle hook costs you fish, the fish will probably be small enough to fit between the tail and the head hook. Overall, you shouldn't have a problem. One of those ends should hook up.
JimtenHaaf
Posted 5/19/2009 8:14 PM (#379333 - in reply to #379306)
Subject: Re: 10" Suick Middle Hook?





Posts: 717


Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Fishing last nite changed my mind about removing hooks. Bagged a 37"er on a 9" Grandma, and it only had the tail hook. Phew!
cast10K
Posted 5/20/2009 9:10 AM (#379452 - in reply to #379306)
Subject: RE: 10" Suick Middle Hook?




Posts: 432


Location: Eagan, MN
The 10" suick is one of my favorite lures... seems like I hook most fish on the middle hook. I think w/ erratic lures the more hooks the better.
Muskie Treats
Posted 5/20/2009 10:05 AM (#379465 - in reply to #379306)
Subject: Re: 10" Suick Middle Hook?





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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Leave the first two hooks alone (or upsize). Take the rear hook and cut all the points off at the shank. This will 1. give the bait WAY better action, 2. Make the bait extremely weedless, 3. still give you that metal-on-metal "clack" sound when you jerk it.
Jsondag
Posted 5/20/2009 10:39 AM (#379479 - in reply to #379306)
Subject: RE: 10" Suick Middle Hook?





Posts: 692


Location: Pelican Rapids, MN
No to mention, but removing a hook is a lot better for the fish - i can't tell you how many times I have had that rear hood in the cheek, gills and even in the eye of a musky. Fish damage is reduced dramatically with the absence of that rear treble. This is how I run a trimmed down suick.


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Baby Mallard
Posted 5/20/2009 10:54 AM (#379483 - in reply to #379479)
Subject: RE: 10" Suick Middle Hook?





Yeah, the main reason I wanted to remove a treble is for the fish. It is safer for both the angler and the fish IMO. My first year fishing muskies back in the day taught me that lesson in a hurry. I was using a standard length pliers (another problem) and I was hooked badly trying to unhook a 46" fish. Blood every where. The fish lived, but I had to quit for the day as I would not stop bleeding.

Thanks for the tips guys. I think I will snip the back hooks off.

Edited by Baby Mallard 5/20/2009 11:05 AM
nclaker
Posted 5/20/2009 1:37 PM (#379534 - in reply to #379479)
Subject: RE: 10" Suick Middle Hook?




Posts: 83


Jerry, thanks for the pic's, is that a rubber band holding the middle hook in the first picture?

What do you do with other baits types (cranks/twitch, glide, topwater) that have 3 trebles? Do you also run with only 2 hooks on these - and if you do is it usually the middle or back hook that is removed?

I also like the idea of fewer hooks for being more fish & human freindly.

Thanks.
Jsondag
Posted 5/20/2009 2:36 PM (#379546 - in reply to #379306)
Subject: Re: 10" Suick Middle Hook?





Posts: 692


Location: Pelican Rapids, MN
I always seem to remove the rear hook on cranks and Jerks. And it is a small rubber band holding the hook to the body. You cant really see it, but the belly hook is "T'd" so it lays flatter against the belly. I have done this with round baits like Sledge's also, but didn't "T" the hook.
Will Schultz
Posted 5/20/2009 2:49 PM (#379551 - in reply to #379306)
Subject: Re: 10" Suick Middle Hook?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
About 20 years ago I started removing the rear hook on Suicks and Foolers and never noticed a difference in the number of fish hooked. If removing the rear hook changes the action in a way that you don't like Shawn's tip above is a good one.
nclaker
Posted 5/20/2009 3:09 PM (#379554 - in reply to #379551)
Subject: Re: 10" Suick Middle Hook?




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Lots of great tips, thanks everyone. Some personal experimentation sounds like the nest step.
muskiewhored
Posted 5/20/2009 3:22 PM (#379556 - in reply to #379306)
Subject: Re: 10" Suick Middle Hook?





Location: Oswego, IL
I "T" the front hook of my bulldogs. I havent done much with anything else. But now I read this stuff, I may fool around with other a bit. I do change out Hooks and split rings on most of my lures when I buy them. I upsize.