Toro60 Vs Toro60HS
muskiewhored
Posted 5/6/2009 5:22 PM (#376503)
Subject: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS





Location: Oswego, IL
I am thinking of bringing my normal one back for a high speed. Any one know and pro's and con's of doing so, or a all around good idea? I been burning some 10s on it and its been fine, Im thinking I want to go Faster but worried about damage.
reelman
Posted 5/6/2009 5:57 PM (#376514 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS




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You are going to loose torque by going to the higher speed gear ratio, I would not recomend the 6.4 gear ratio for DC10's.

welldriller
Posted 5/6/2009 8:00 PM (#376537 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS




Posts: 402


Location: Eagle River, WI
Using a high speed reel for dc10's is like putting your truck in 3rd gear and trying to pull your boat out of the water. To high of a gear for a lure with that much torque on it. IMO.
muskiewhored
Posted 5/7/2009 11:58 AM (#376672 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS





Location: Oswego, IL
I have desided to just my saltist30 levelwind for the 10's and such, I did swap out to the HS lastnight, I figure its easier to pick up slack on my jerk baits, and topwaters with it. It would be great for everything but the 10's.
reelman
Posted 5/7/2009 3:26 PM (#376696 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS




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So you bought a reel, used it, and then took it back because you wanted a different one? Nothing was wrong with the first one? Sorry but I just don't think that's very ethical as you just stuck the store with a reel that is now used and can not be sold as new. I know some stores allow it but IMHO it just doesn't seem right.
muskiewhored
Posted 5/7/2009 4:27 PM (#376716 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS





Location: Oswego, IL
Same thing as putting on a pair of jeans walking down the stairs and relize it too much of a ball hugger and bringin it back getting a new size. Lastly, the one I got was a display, and the one I brought back went right into a display. Where's the harm there bud? So someone turned the handle a few times, Im sure everyone who looks at them turns the handle buying it or not.
WI Skis
Posted 5/7/2009 4:30 PM (#376719 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS





Posts: 547


Location: Oshkosh
I can see both points, but turning a handle in the store and burning double tens is not exactly the same thing.

Peter
muskiewhored
Posted 5/7/2009 5:03 PM (#376726 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS





Location: Oswego, IL
Ok, let me clarify the "Burning of Double Tens" One day for probably 5 minutes, or 5 casts. I was trying out new lures a local pond and a double 10 was one of them, I want to see how it handled it, as well as all the other applications, jerks, gliders, topwater- I wasnt fishing, The only thing in that pond is catfish,bluegill,and fingerling bass. The best was all the people looking at me throwing those baits in there, must of thought I was completely nutz. Hey if you spend over 300 on a reel, and you dont like it, what would you do, if it was 2 weeks old, used 1 time? Seriously, you act as if I destroyed the reel or something. Next time I will ask you to come by when I am trying out another reel, and get your approval. Thanks.
reelman
Posted 5/7/2009 10:25 PM (#376791 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS




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So if you were buying a reel you would not mind paying the same for a reel that has been spooled up with line and been used to cast Double 10's as you do for one that is fresh out of the box?
muskiewhored
Posted 5/8/2009 9:29 AM (#376848 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS





Location: Oswego, IL
Reelman,

I do see your 1% of your point, but also, if the one I bought originally was out of the display and the second one I got was a display, then looks like I never bought a brand new one out of the box anyways huh>? I also get your point on how 5 casts with a dbl 10 ruined the reel, sorry. Lastly, how do you cast a reel/try out a reel without line on it? Id sure like to know.
Marshall
Posted 5/8/2009 9:57 AM (#376849 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS





Posts: 406


Location: Stones throw away...finally!!
I don't know what is funnier, the back and forth between you two, or that you paid over 300.00 for the same reel I bought for under 200.00.

Just kidding...but seriously, I have the exact reel you just got (60HS) and love it. I don't use it for 10's, but seems to handle everything else just fine.

Edited by Marshall 5/8/2009 9:58 AM
Pete Stoltman
Posted 5/8/2009 11:17 AM (#376869 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS




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A reel "on display" at a store is hardly the same thing as one that has been removed from the store, used, and then returned. How does the store or a potential new buyer know what kind of treatment it's received in the time you took it out? Not the same scenario at all. This sounds like a situation in which the buyer should have done a little more homework on the appropriate choice of a product before pulling the trigger.

Edited by Pete Stoltman 5/8/2009 11:28 AM
muskiewhored
Posted 5/8/2009 1:02 PM (#376898 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS





Location: Oswego, IL
Marshall, and where did you find that below 200, thats got to be a fib, or not the same reel. Retails for 269 plus tax bud. Maybe you got the one I returned. hahahaha

Pete, obviously you didnt read my other post, I used it for 5 casts regardless, I dont need to explain crap to anyone.
Anyways, I feel like this is a complete waste of time discussing this. I get all your points, and agree to a certain point. If it was that big of a deal, dont you think when I brought it back with the line on it, and they swaped out the spool and put in on the HS, they wouldve said something if it was really used, they opened it.

But like I said I get all your points........your right...........im wrong.......Got it..... Im out!
reelman
Posted 5/8/2009 2:59 PM (#376922 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS




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IF the store knew you had used the reel and actually swapped out the spool I can see you point. From reading your posts it sounded to me like you had used the reel then took the line off so that the store didn't know you used it and then swapped it out. What you describe now is a different story. Sorry for the misunderstanding. No hard feeling or anything, are we friends again?
Marshall
Posted 5/8/2009 3:19 PM (#376926 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS





Posts: 406


Location: Stones throw away...finally!!
I believe I paid 179.00 plus 10 for shipping for a brand new, in the box 60hs, with the 2 handles. You can find them all day long on ebay for low 2's.
IAJustin
Posted 5/8/2009 3:19 PM (#376927 - in reply to #376922)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS




Posts: 2010


Gander Mtn - had a fishing day around a month ago - 30% off so I got mine for like $205...I should have bought 3 instead of 1 ...so far the Toro60 is the finest muskie reel i've owned (better IMO than calcutta's and luna's).....but we will see after a year of abuse.
muskyjim
Posted 5/8/2009 3:32 PM (#376928 - in reply to #376503)
Subject: RE: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS




Posts: 132


Location: MN
Is the Toro the low profile reel? This isn't a good option in either case for D10's is it?
cast10K
Posted 5/8/2009 3:48 PM (#376929 - in reply to #376928)
Subject: RE: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS




Posts: 432


Location: Eagan, MN
Yes, it's a large low-profile reel. Some are saying it's a good d10 reel, but I don't know if anybody has a full season pull d10's w/ one. It's one thing for a reel to pull them, it's another to pull them and survive.
Pete Stoltman
Posted 5/9/2009 1:32 AM (#376990 - in reply to #376898)
Subject: Re: Toro60 Vs Toro60HS




Posts: 663


muskiewhored - 5/8/2009 1:02 PM


Pete, obviously you didnt read my other post, I used it for 5 casts regardless, I dont need to explain crap to anyone.


Yes, I did read the other post and don't think I was responding in an unkind way. Whatever an individual store does to satisfy a customer is their own business so on this deal you win. My only point is that once a product goes out the doors of a store it's impossible for them to know what kind of treatment that item received. Now they have a USED product on their hands no matter how well you took care of it. To be ethical they can't sell that item to another customer as "new" can they? I suppose they could say "well we sold it to a guy who only took it out once and only cast it a few times, and he treated it really well, so now you can buy it". Wonder how many customers would be willing to buy that reel under those circumstances unless they got a "used" price for it.

Don't take the comments from others so hard. You're the guy who came out on the winning end of this deal.