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Location: madison wisconsin | Who makes it? I thought raection strike did but can't find that they do.
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| You are right about Reaction strike making them. Last year I was told they were going to stop making baits though. I believe thats why Dorn had Homewreckers for 10 bucks last fall.
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | They still have them.. http://www.reactionstrike.com/homewrecker.html
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| It looks like a pretty good bait. Halfway between the 8 and 10 inch weagle. From the looks of the video it has pretty good action also. |
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Location: madison wisconsin | Thanks guys. Actually turns out that I won one on a raffle at a muskies inc metting. Looks pretty coll. Gonna have to try her out this year! |
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| I have a homwrecker that i bought for 10 bucks at a fishing show this winter. looks pretty good, nice and big. Thats going to be a good bait throwin in the dark and early morning. |
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| Another cheap China knockoff on clearance everywhere. It is the original copy of the Weagle when Cady and I made them. If you must, change the hooks and rings at least. I know what it cost to make a Weagle, these things must be like 50 cents.Hahahaha.
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Leave the dance with the one that brought ya....as Jonesi would say.
Stick with the Weagle, it works the first time...EVERYTIME.
MIKE HULBERT
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I won a Homewrecker at our League banquet last fall, and can't get it to work at all. It simply pulls pretty much straight no matter what I do. Any tricks for a Homewrecker that doesn't zig? |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | Mine would nose dive but zig-zag a little at the end of the cast but about 30-40' from the boat it wouldn't do anything. I contacted RS and sent my back for a replacement which they did so I'll have to give the new one a shot this summer. Can't say anything bad since they took care of me but my first experience didn't pan out either. |
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| Looks like once again Mark Llewjeski can boat a bunch of fish on the Homewrecker as he did in Badfish III with no problems but once again he could catch fish in a sink full of dishes. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | I have 4 HomeWreakers that I got last year, put new rings and hooks on and they work great, moves alot of water, comes in 18 different colors, can't beat the price that I paid for them. Knockoff or not it works for me.
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| They are really a great bait. I have yet to find a walk the dawg topwater with as much swing as they have. For ten dollars you cant beat it. |
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| That weird, because I have probabally 10 of them and I would say 7 out of the 10 don't even come close to working.
So yeah, for $10.00 they still such...but I would assume a musky bait that cost $10 bucks will suck.
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| Guest - 3/13/2009 7:39 AM
That weird, because I have probabally 10 of them and I would say 7 out of the 10 don't even come close to working.
So yeah, for $10.00 they still such...but I would assume a musky bait that cost $10 bucks will suck.
why do u have so many if they don't work. if a lure doesn't work u don't buy 10 of them for no reason. |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | danielson - 3/13/2009 3:26 PM
Guest - 3/13/2009 7:39 AM
That weird, because I have probabally 10 of them and I would say 7 out of the 10 don't even come close to working.
So yeah, for $10.00 they still such...but I would assume a musky bait that cost $10 bucks will suck.
why do u have so many if they don't work. if a lure doesn't work u don't buy 10 of them for no reason.
Because you could buy large lots off of ebay for little to nothing. I've seen them go for a couple of bucks each.
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Location: lansing, il | weagle baby! |
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| Weagles Wabull, but they always run right. Hahahahahahaha. Leavin' The Dance........ Made by a "Fat Guy" (sorry man) in his basement. The way they ALWAYS have and hopefully, ALWAYS will be.
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | Weagles, like no others.
Why cheap out when your fishing. Life is too short!!!
Why throw cheap junk when you can use quality for just a bit more? |
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| guys if you want something at right price who always work rock solid try a satisfier you will not be disappointed............
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | I got a Homewrecker for cheap this past winter. Some of our waters opened up before the season closed, so I thought I'd give it a try. The 'wrecker seemed to work fine. Pushed a lot of water, had a nice "swoosh", and zigged and zagged very well. |
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Location: Racine, Wi | Hulbert - 3/12/2009 6:28 PM
Leave the dance with the one that brought ya....as Jonesi would say.
Stick with the Weagle, it works the first time...EVERYTIME.
MIKE HULBERT
Amen daddio. |
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| I paid $30 for a Wabull with shipping which is basically built the exact same way as a Weagle. Within a couple weeks the entire epoxy topcoat and paint job cracked and pealed off. I paid $10 for a Homewrecker that worked right out of the box and has lasted through 3 years of abuse.
So it may have been a cheap china knockoff, but it's durability has outlasted the original. |
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| Did you call Baldy about it? Cause mine hasn't even come close to chipping and cracking, and I have used mine from summer through fall of last year. Im sure others would agree with me that this was most likely a fluke. If I were you I would definitely call about it. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Guest, talk to Baldy about the bait. I won't knock the Homewrecker because I've never used one, but I think you'll find that poor quality is the exception rather than the rule with Mojo products.
Like everything, no matter how high the quality of a product is, something goes wrong now and then.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Of course he didn't. He'd rather complain anonymously on an internet message board (and expect everyone to believe him) than have Baldy replace the lure post haste...which he would. I have at least a dozen Wabulls, and the finish on all has been fine. I have a Homewrecker that won't run, and the advice was to return it, which I will, and get one that does! |
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| i think there was a chipping problem on the very first batch of weagel and wabull(mojo)
just do a search on the forum you will see.
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | STEVE send your HomeWrecker back to Reaction Strike ask for RICK QUADE 100% Guarantee, replacement of a bad bait. It is funny the org. post ask about the REACTION STRIKE HOME WRECKER, not about a Weagle. The avg joe can buy 2-3 Home Wreckers for the same price as one Weagle. Mark Llewjeski of Bad Fish has a video and anybody can see the Home Wrecker zig and zag and nail some BIG muskies on his video. I wish guys would not put down a bait that they have not used, to pimp another one.
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Location: Tinley Park. Fish Cen IL. Bass & Vilas Cty.Muskie | I am total mixed up on your last post Sworrall ? ? You complain about the Homewreck but you don't return it. Yet you dish someone who did the same with the Wabull and didn't return it ? ? The buddy system is a great Marketing tool on the Internet. How else do you explain it ? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Sorry you're confused. I asked if there were any tips for making a Homewrecker work that seemed to pull pretty much straight. I got one late last Fall at our League banquet that I had trouble getting to zig/zag. If you read my post again you'll see I wasn't 'complaining', I was asking for clarification on how those things work. I did so signed in, under my name. Then, when it was explained others had Homewreckers that did the same as mine, that if it did that it needed to be replaced and suggested I send it in for a replacement, I said I would do just that. Pretty simple, and not a 'dish' (whatever that is) on anyone or anything.
The anonymous (and therefore lacking credibility in any complaint) guy with the Wabull said he got his and the finish came off. From his post, it seems he's had it awhile.
The finish coming off is alot different than a bait not 'working' as one expects and is hardly 'the same problem'...there may be a trick to working the lure or balancing it...everyone says they replaced the hooks a split rings on the Homewrecker, I thought maybe that helps.
There isn't any trick for a lure losing it's finish. Now if the finish had come off that Homewrecker, it would have already been returned.
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| Had the same problem with a Wabull shedding paint. Talked to Baldy and he had it replaced in a couple days. People find more time to complain than get things taken care of. Seems to be something that is becoming common. People don't want to make a phone call anymore. If someone doesn't respond to an e-mail in 30 minutes they think they have been ignored. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | This is why I have an email shocking notification device installed in my neck now. I really hate those joke emails now.. ... .. . . . . .. |
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Location: Tinley Park. Fish Cen IL. Bass & Vilas Cty.Muskie | I gots ya,I am leaving in the very early morning(First trip) and I am just having a hard time here getting everything together. I probably should have just folded my fat little fingers and be a good Roy(Boy). Thanks for clearing up my confusion. I own about 15+ weagles and love every one. I could use a little help packing ? ? |
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| Wrong, wrong, wrong. You missed the point of the post completely. Yes, I sent the Wabull back in and got it replaced, although it took a full month before I got it back. I sent in in mid October and convenient for me, didn't get it back until after musky season was over, very disappointing.
Point is, maybe before bashing the Homewrecker, realize you might just have a bad bait. Everybody and their cousin gets on here to support a "friend of the board", fact is, the Homewrecker is a fine bait that is much cheaper than the competition. Every bait has durability issues, we're fishing for muskies! |
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| Guest - 3/17/2009 8:25 AM
Wrong, wrong, wrong. You missed the point of the post completely. Yes, I sent the Wabull back in and got it replaced, although it took a full month before I got it back. I sent in in mid October and convenient for me, didn't get it back until after musky season was over, very disappointing.
Point is, maybe before bashing the Homewrecker, realize you might just have a bad bait. Everybody and their cousin gets on here to support a "friend of the board", fact is, the Homewrecker is a fine bait that is much cheaper than the competition. Every bait has durability issues, we're fishing for muskies!
I replace every bait that I receive that has had finish or other issues caused by a defect from "the factory" (yes, I can tell). I also send an additional free bait for the trouble.
Yes, sometimes it takes longer than I would like, but I do what I can while balancing a full time job, a bait business, and a family. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Weagle 100% IMO. I have both old Cady and new Mojo Weagles and love them all! Tough as nails. Loved watching Steve Jonesi and Baldy at a show hit a Mojo Weagle a few times with a 10lb hammer. LMAO during that demonstration. Didn't even crack the coating! I put these lures in the same class as my beloved Suick lures. A+ |
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| Everybody and their cousin gets on here to support a "friend of the board"!
and we'll keep right on doing it, too.
the simple fact is that there are good people in the industry, people who do things the right way, and there are other people who are only out to make money.
Baldy has proven time and time again that he's one of the good people out there: he makes himself readily available here on MuskieFirst, takes extremely good care of his customers, and donates to every worthy cause that comes along. on top of that he's one of the nicest people you'll meet.
part of the Rick Quade/Reaction Strike business model a couple years back was to send popular baits to China and have copies made so that he could sell them for a lower price. HomeWrecker = Weagle, Quiver Critter = Crane, Fred = Sledge, Jointed Sow = Pig...that's simply about making money by using inexpensive overseas labor and materials.
it's not new, or even wrong, to copy baits and it's "just business" in the end so he's not a bad guy for doing it, nor does it make them bad baits. but it doesn't qualify him as a good guy worthy of support either.
Baldy, and other "friends of the board" have earned that status by being active contributors to this community and not simply looking for a new angle to make money. THAT is why everyone gets on here to support them and will continue to do so. i encourage you to think about that the next time you make a purchase decision.
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Location: Not Where I Want To Be | Guest.
If a friend of the Board gets support. It probably means his product works and has been tested.
I'll take my chances with Originals and People that actually have Screen Names. |
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| I don't think there is any problem with anyone supporting a "friend of the board", but I have seen it get to the point where some people's extreme bias discourages folks from simply trying to make their own flouro leaders just to say, buy stealth! At those times it becomes detrimental to the overall content of the muskie board.
On this thread, baits like the Homewrecker are not given there dues. One guy says his Homewrecker doesn't work, not much of a response. Another guy defends the bait by saying the competition's paint came off and people get their undies in a bunch.
So all I'm saying is that every bait you buy is a risk, I chose to take the less expensive route first. That bait works for me so why fork over $30 when the same manufacturer sold me a faulty one? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | How was the Homrewrecker not given it's due? I asked how to make the lure do what I expected it to, and was informed it's defective and advised to return it, which I will. Some folks said they had issues, described them, and others said the bait worked well for them.
The mention of the Wabull had NOTHING to do with the subject at hand, and was nothing more than an anonymous slap which you continue to pursue. Defending/promoting one product by bashing another is very ineffective and looks....bad.
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| Sworrell, what do Wabull's have to do with it? Seriously?
"Another cheap China knockoff on clearance everywhere. It is the original copy of the Weagle when Cady and I made them.a Wabull and a Weagle are basically the same bait" - Jonesi
"Weagles Wabull, but they always run right."
So yeah, per Jonesi, Wabulls and Weagles are the same thing so it IS related to the subject at hand. I don't have a Weagle, but I do have a Wabull. So in my experience the Homewrecker has outlasted the durability of a Weagle (wabull). It was not a slap, I was trying to play the devil's advocate saying that maybe it was a freak occurence and that all baits have durability issues.
sworrell, how did the Homewrecker not get it's due?
"Why cheap out when your fishing. Life is too short!!!"
"Stick with the Weagle, it works the first time...EVERYTIME."
"So yeah, for $10.00 they still such...but I would assume a musky bait that cost $10 bucks will suck. "
and see the quotes above as well.
So how many different ways do I have to say it, I don't have any problem with Baldies or Weagles or Wabulls, but when compared directly to the Homewrecker, I'll take the cheaper bait. That's all I'm trying to say!
sworrell: "Defending/promoting one product by bashing another is very ineffective and looks....bad. "
What exactly was Hulbert and Jonesi doing? Why are you not accusing them of the same? |
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| I don't have any problem with Baldies or Weagles or Wabulls, but when compared directly to the Homewrecker, I'll take the cheaper bait. That's all I'm trying to say!
and i hope you enjoy your cheaper bait, i'm sure it'll catch fish for you. there's lots and lots of opportunities out there to go the less expensive route.
sometimes you can get a less expensive product that works just fine, and there's also times when the copy just isn't the same. Rick Quade/Reaction Strike/Trophy Technology has had some "hits": the Homewrecker apparently works for you, many people like the Bulldawg rods; they've also had some real "misses": such as previous bulldawgs made of plastic that fell apart too quickly or the Shad Clones that flipped on their side. and blatantly copying baits is bound to be unpopular. the common denominator in all those things is out-sourced production in order to maximize profits.
i'm a big fan of capitalism and competition, so i'm very okay with that. i'm also a big fan of consumer choice, which is the true beauty of our system: we get to choose for ourselves what to buy and why we do it.
for me, the $15 or $20 extra is well worth it to make sure that the money is going to a good person like Baldy.
there are even some people who manage to do BOTH: mass production overseas to keep costs low, coupled with good customer service and a commitment to the muskie fishing community: Mark from Okuma and James from Tackle Industries have both stepped up to the plate here on MuskieFirst repeatedly by making themselves available to us as well as donating over and over to worthy causes. in cases like those, i can save money and feel good about the company!
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| I have a homewrecker that worked good out of the box till one day while using the bait i was having problem making the bait consistantly walk back and forth. The bait was starting to split and take on water. But i wanted to keep using it as i had some fish going on it, so here is what helped correct it. I put a lighter hook in the front, i turned the eye screw horizontal and bent the screw eye down to help lift the nose of the bait. This helped me keep fishing with it all weekend long. Hope this helps. |
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So all I'm saying is that every bait you buy is a risk, I chose to take the less expensive route first. That bait works for me so why fork over $30 when the same manufacturer sold me a faulty one?
Unknowingly sold you a faulty one, replaced it free of charge, and included an additional bait free of charge for your trouble.
If you have an issue with the way that you were treated regarding this bait please contact me directly and we can discuss it.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | First of all, it's sworrall, not sworrell. Second, 'durability wasn't the issue, 'performance' was. I agree with you, there were several folks who bashed one product while praising another, and my comment was intended to be read by all.
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| Guest,
You'd better re-read my original post . No, I didn't say Weagles and Wabulls are basically the same bait. AND, I've thrown A LOT of these baits over the years and yes, every single one ran "right". Maybe I was lucky.Hahahahahaha. Naw, luck has nothing to do with it. Oh, and history comes into play as well. You have no clue as to the history of the Homewrecker and Reaction Strike as they pertain to the Weagle. Before you start quoting me again, please get your ducks in a row. I will continue to voice opinions , whether YOU like it or not. Maybe post under your real name too, it adds credibility . I kinda liked my little "play on words". You must be too young to remember the Weebles.Hahahahahahaha. |
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Location: lansing, il | i remember weebles. my brother had the weebles boat. that was pretty cool. |
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| Relax folks. You didn't invent the wheel here. If you can find a Hoodini around those are the WTD topwaters to get. They actually have weight in them unlike most of the new wtd baits. |
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | The history of the Homewrecker...ahhh yes...I remember those SUPER clouded, wool pulled over my eyes days....
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Location: ashtabula ohio | my 2 cents, as confusing as the whole weeble wobble fall down world of the "newer" hyped wtd baits, i ended up buying the three i thought i could tell the difference with... the satisfier, i could not keep up on top as quick as i like{or the fish} so its up on the swap board now. the thing is just too heavy, the wreckers i move fish on and landed one dink 37" last fall the first time i used it, also have a 10" wrecker that got no action last fall... then bought the famed "cady weagle with nimmer eyes" used.. here on the m.f. board... and it acts the same as the satisfier. i can get the big swoosh ONLY from the wreckers and not the others..i used these three baits the same amount of time on my lake. this experiment is not over...but just 2 cents... |
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| Alot of working a Weagle correctly is by using the right amout of slack line and the right snap of the rod tip.
I have bought probably 15-20 weagles off of people who said, "this one doesn't work...it runs to deep, or nose dives."
I bought them and used them as I have yet to ever have a Weagle that didn't work perfectly. Alot of getting any bait to work correctly is to learn how to throw it correctly.
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| I HATED the Weagle at first. Then I realized that it is not a lure you learn in a few casts. And it's not a jackpot. If your weagle ain't swooshin' you just ain't playin' it right...
If I had a dollar for every time I thought a lure "didn't work right" and later found out I didn't work the lure right? Well, I'd have a lot of dollars.
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| Dawg,
You HAVE to be kidding. Only when these guys took over production, did the quality of the Bulldawg go down the drain. This of course opened the door for other manufacturers to take a piece of the market share, which they did. Kudos to Brad on the new stuff as it appears to be top notch. As a guide, I spent THOUSANDS on Dawgs which of course needed REAL split rings and hooks right out of the package. At the time, they were the best tool for the job. Can I get some money back from these guys????? Or maybe I can go on a saltwater trip seeing as I paid for it!!!! |
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Location: Land of the Musky | The new dawgs should be good. They now use a double coil internal harness on those new "innovative" lures.
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