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| Any resolution on the overlapping dates with the MN and MAC schedule, or does it stay as it is for this year. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | The four MAC events that will count towards Team of the Year are:
Minocqua Chain-June 6-7
Leech Lake-August 21-22
Holcombe Flowage-September 6-7
Lake Vermilion-September 19-20
There will be two Hartman Series regional events and those are:
Mille Lacs-July 17-18
Cass Lake-October, date TBA
and of course, the Metro Muskie Tournament on:
June 13th
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Location: Otsego, MN | Does anyone know when the website will be up and running with all the info? I know the rules and sign up sheets are available now. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Within a week, perhaps less. |
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| How is the the MAC doing the starting positions?
Will you have any incentives other than the points money for teams that fish more than 1 event? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | For information and rules, see the MAC webpage at http://www.muskieanglerscircuit.com
or call 800.359.4416 ext 128 or 715.362.1760. |
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| Any chance next years MAC events could be on say a tuesday,wed, thursday? This would make it less impactful to non-muskie people & muskie people with jobs that can only fish weekends. Less crowding at boat landings& on the water in general. Dan Crooms |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Hello,......................
Us Tournament fishermen" WORK " everyday Jobs just like everyone else in the fishing World.
Dan, how am I messing up your time on the water ?
Jerome |
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| Hopefully the Cass tournament is the first weekend in Oct. |
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| Muskies Inc. has an annual gathering that I wouldn't really call a "tournament", as the only thing you actually win is the right to choose the body of water to fish the following year. It is always held Wednesday to Friday to avoid any conflicts with recreational anglers both on the water and at the public launchings. I don't recall anyone ever mentioning that they wanted to change the fishing days, but as I said it's a different type of event than a regular tournament. I think that's what Dan may have been asking about. |
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| It is always held Wednesday to Friday to avoid any conflicts with recreational anglers both on the water and at the public launchings.
To suggest that the primary reason for the Muskies Inc event being on Weds-Friday is to avoid conflicts is a huuuuuge stretch.
The Chapter Challunge is held each year at a weekly-stay type resort, affording the participants the chance to make it a week-long vacation. The actual friendly competition is Wednesday-Friday, allowing the final banquet/awards night to take place on Friday...because everyone has to check out on Saturday morning so that the resort is ready for the next week's guests.
Many Muskies Inc club tournaments are held on weekends - including the "Best of the Best" tournament in Green Bay, which is held on a weekend, on a relatively confined section of water, during one of the most heavily pressured times of year for that body of water.
Love it or hate it, the simple reality is that most muskie tournaments will continue to be held on weekends to ensure the most possible people who want to fish them can fish them.
My hope is that all tournament organizers will be cognizant of the impact their events have on non-tourney anglers by emphasizing responsible boating/fishing practices to the participants and by attempting to avoid scheduling events on high-traffic weekends such as mid-summer peak and holidays.
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It is not a stretch to say that the Wed. - Fri. schedule is to avoid conflict with other anglers.
At last years Challunge at least 1/2 of the people did not stay for the week.
Many MI members have asked to have it on the weekends, but it will not change for the simple fact that we like to fish in less crowded conditions, and we don't want to impose on vacationers if we can help it.
The Challunge is a vacation event, and the purpose isn't to attract entrants to raise money, so it does not need to be on weekends like some MI fundraising tournaments.
But make no mistake, there is intent for the wed-fri shedule to stay as is out of consideration for others.
JS
Chairmen, Gil Hamm Chapter Challunge.
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| Nice one. I can just picture the Challunge organizers approaching a resort like this:
"We'd like to have it at your resort from Wednesday until Sunday. We know that will tie up 2 of your weeks from other guests so you'll lose a bunch of business, but we'd still like you to give us a discount rate since you like Muskies Inc so much."
It might end up being considerate of others, ubt it's also all but impostible for the host chapter to do it any other way anyhow. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | OH boy....The ice can't melt soon enough up there in MN can it? |
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We could have had any dates we wanted last year.
Fri-Sun tournament would have been no problem on Cass in Sept.
This year as well, if we wanted to fish Fri-Sun., any time after Labor day would have worked on Leech at our host resort.
Our current location has our cabins Sun-Sun. We could incorporate sat. on the dates and do Thurs-Sat., allowing members to use less week-time vacation for the challunge.
But we aren't going to do that.
Funny how some of you seem to know so much about the Challlunge, and how it's run. Don't recall any of you being in on planning discussions.
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JS
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| Funny how some of you seem to know so much about the Challlunge, and how it's run. Don't recall any of you being in on planning discussions.
that's absolutely, true, John.
i'm not really trying to suggest that the planners of the Chapter Challunge don't try to reduce their impact and avoid congested times. the practical aspects make it look like a nice side benefit, but only the planners know for sure.
whether purposeful or simply practical, they accomplish it and that's what matters.
in the same way, i worked with Spring Bay Resort this year to move our MuskieFirst outing on Lake Vermilion to late August instead of mid-July. this both helps to reduce congestion/pressure during mid-summer peak and is also practical as it frees up more resort space during their busiest time of the year. it's a "win-win" solution, much like what the Chapter Challunge achieves.
the thing that everyone agrees on is that for any event, whether "outings" like the MuskieFirst trip and Chapter Challunge or a traditional weekend tournament, it's good if the planners consider the impact their event will have on the fish, the lake, and other users.
no amount of planning will ever create something that makes everybody completely happy, but it can mitigate things in a way that achieves both the event's goals and allows maximum enjoyment by everyone else, too.
imho, it's unfortunate whenever people adopt an "all-or-nothing" perspective, i find this tends to shut down productive discussion. tournaments are neither all good, nor all bad. they can be good for the competitors and still allow non-competitors to enjoy the lake too.
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| What John said.  |
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| i'd suggest putting some sort of quota on bait, rod, tackle and boat manufacturers too. if there were fewer boats and equipment sold then maybe we wouldn't have this problem of so many people out there fishing!!!
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| Heres my issue I want more lakes in MN. I would like to see the image of the muskie fisherman be positive. I think this could help tourneys have less of an impact with non muskie guys, thus making public relations on the MN side alot easyer when public hearings come up on new lakes. Thank you for your time. Dan Crooms |
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| What are the DATES of the hartman tournaments?
Need to get all the info on both series for sponsorship $$$$$$$ time is running out
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | The Hartman Series Dates:
Mille Lacs-July 17-18
Cass Lake-October 10-11
All MAC and Hartman Regional Events dates are final.
Expect a mailer to go out this week to all who have entered an MMTT in the past, and a press release from the Muskie Anglers Circuit this week. |
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