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| Now that double bladed bucktails, especially the #10 and #8 bladed variety, have become such a staple in many people's tackle boxes, is anyone still throwing the old-school single-bladed in-line bucktail? If so, when are you reaching for one versus the other?
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| Simply put:
No. The "era" of a single bladed bait is not "over."
There's a time and a place for each and every tool that's available to us.
To each their own, in their own time and in their own place.
Don't totally abandon tools like this...you may miss out on opportunities.
Remember this:
Fish don't have the capacity or the knowledge to know what is or what isn't the latest fad in the fishing scene. Only fishermen do. The fish, they're opportunistic feeders.
Edited by MACK 2/24/2009 3:51 PM
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| So Mack, when do you use the traditional bucktail vs. the double bladed variety? |
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Location: Ames, Iowa | Single bladed all the time for me so far. Can anyone recommend a double bladed tail that you can cast for a long time with less wear on the reel an hands?
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Location: Madison Wi. Chain | Single bladed Colorado bucktails are great for working high in the water column over weeds. Often, my first choice for this type of situation. BG |
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| i like the single blade rabid squirrel tail from monster lures
great for burning over cabbage
plus tanner is one heck of a guide too |
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Location: Northwest Wisconsin | The single blade bucktail is a great "locator" bait. Although the Cowgirl bait is a great producer bait, like stated before, each has it's time and place. Ever throw a "Thumpertail" bucktail? It has a great thump and flash, and it's a single blade. |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | The Reaper - 2/24/2009 4:48 PM
If so, when are you reaching for one versus the other?
TR
When HIGH SPEED is the trigger. I know a lot of people claim they burn double 10's, but there is no way they are moving it as fast as I can move a single blade with a 6.4:1 reel. |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | JimtenHaaf - 2/24/2009 6:35 PM When HIGH SPEED is the trigger. I know a lot of people claim they burn double 10's, but there is no way they are moving it as fast as I can move a single blade with a 6.4:1 reel. It all depends on what reel you are using for that little bucktail... |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Will Schultz - 2/24/2009 8:23 PM
JimtenHaaf - 2/24/2009 6:35 PM When HIGH SPEED is the trigger. I know a lot of people claim they burn double 10's, but there is no way they are moving it as fast as I can move a single blade with a 6.4:1 reel. It all depends on what reel you are using for that little bucktail...
HAHAHA!!! Is that a challenge, Will?  |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | JimtenHaaf - 2/24/2009 8:45 PM HAHAHA!!! Is that a challenge, Will? :) ;) Sort of... If your 6.4:1 reel is a smaller baitcaster it is probably bringing in 28-31" per turn of the handle, if someone is burning a double ten with a 6:1 reel that is bringing in 35-48" per turn they are going to be at least as fast if not faster. Burning is burning, whether a double ten at 5 mph or a little french blade tail at 5 mph... Something like a pound of feathers weighing the same as a pound of lead but not the same as the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow. |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | Will Schultz - 2/24/2009 7:07 PM
JimtenHaaf - 2/24/2009 8:45 PM HAHAHA!!! Is that a challenge, Will? :) ;) Sort of... ISomething like a pound of feathers weighing the same as a pound of lead but not the same as the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow.
African or European swallow? |
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Location: Minneapolis,Mn | Try Double Showgirls, a step down from DCG's, they will be a little easier!
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| I do like double bladed bucktails, but I'm still partial to the Mepps Single Bladed Tandem bucktails. The natural Squirrel is my favorite, although I can't find them in tandem so I order the parts and make them myself. Bucktails in general are very strong lures, but I've put a few of my Mepps through hell and they are always my choice when fishing gets tough. I guess you just fall back on what you're confident with. I usually pick up a few new lures every year, but I usually restock my Mepps as well. But I do agree, there is a time and a place for every lure (except the pigs  ).
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | sorenson - 2/24/2009 9:11 PM African or European swallow? I don't know that... I still owe you a shrubbery. The Reaper - 2/24/2009 4:48 PM Now that double bladed bucktails, especially the #10 and #8 bladed variety, have become such a staple in many people's tackle boxes, is anyone still throwing the old-school single-bladed in-line bucktail? If so, when are you reaching for one versus the other?
TR Sorry Reaper. Now that this thread is going a different direction I'll point it back. There are still many occasions when I'll throw a single blade whether a little french #5 or a fluted #7 or 8. Early in the year in clear water I like the little french blades, something about that vibration in cold water <55. The smaller tails/blades also seem to shine when fish can see for a long distance even if the water is shallow. Sure the double tens will work in all these situations but that doesn't make them the best tool all of the time. |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | The Reaper - 2/24/2009 2:48 PM
Now that double bladed bucktails, especially the #10 and #8 bladed variety, have become such a staple in many people's tackle boxes, is anyone still throwing the old-school single-bladed in-line bucktail? If so, when are you reaching for one versus the other?
TR
I can't say that I have noticed a huge difference in the ability to move fish when comparing single and double bladed bucktails. Now, bear in mind that I only fish for pure strain muskies about 5-6 days a year at most, and spend the rest of the year on waters containing only tigers as the Esocid species. So my experience base is extremely limited for comparing the two on pure strain fish. I do seem to get more action on the single blade variety for tigers; they tend to be quite a bit more, uh, cowardly than the pures. Preferences toward smaller baits and overall hesitancy to strike boatside are fairly substantiated tendencies for them. I have had them chase double 10s, but get way more action on smaller, single blade bucks. So for local waters, I'd say I'm going smaller and single blade 70-80% of the time now. When in waters w/ pures, I'm still usually cheating to the bigger doubles though.
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Location: Almond, WI | Nothing is going to make me "give up" on my single blades. I'll be honest, hour for hour, I started doing a lot better when I started throwing single colorado blades as opposed to single french blades (never cared much for fluted, throw them less than the other two). Doubles put out more vibration, which can be helpful, but you gotta put the bait in the right place still. I'd take a well fished single blade over a poorly fished double any day. |
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| nothing will ever replace the single french blade bucktail in my boat. depending on the size of the blade, it it easy to cover different depth ranges at fast speeds with those lures. i love running the single french blades down 6 or 8 feet along a deep weed edge. i build all of my own, so i can weight them to stay down that deep while reeling as fast as i want.
the single blade bucktail will never disappear, just like spinnerbaits won't, even though they seem to have disappeared after being hotter than a comet for a couple of seasons.
muskie lure trends are worse than the red carpet fashions.
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Location: Lebanon,Mo | Ha...Ha....The Double Bladed Bucktails havent even started in some places in the South.I still have fellow Musky fisherman ask me what that bright colored bait is on the end of my line down here,and that is coming from someone that has won the annual Pomme de Terre Tournament twice.The single bladed bucktail caught alot of fish last year on one lake over anything else. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | not a chance...there are many days that fish won't eat or move on d10s but will eat smaller bucktails...I personally have had very little luck with the double 8s but have caught plenty on d10s...
just like any category of bait, let the fish tell you what they want that day/hour/minute..it constantly changes...if you only throw d10s it will cost you fish....lots of em... |
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Location: Irvine, KY | Ive had a lot of luck on the double 8s with the smaller skirt on sunny days (lots of flash with more speed than the D10) and/or stained water (for vibration)... but I like singles on cloudy days and/or clear water. I dont think doubles will ever completely replace the single bladed bucktails for me either. |
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Location: Right Here | It is a definite phenomenon. I know I’m not a huge manufacturer, but in my sample size I would easily say that 95 out of every 100 tails I sell are double blades. (If not more.) I'd also say that 75 out of every hundred are tens too. I personally like throwing single bladed tens a lot. They are a little easier to retrieve, but also have a different vibration. They still have the same big profile, just a little different. I will have to agree with an earlier post that I seem to “move” more fish with them, but trigger more with the doubles. |
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Location: Oklahoma | As a pike fisherman, I have done very well on traditional Mepps bucktails with single blades. I'm curious to know if anyone has success with catching spring pike on double bladed bucktails? |
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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs | Will Schultz - 2/24/2009 8:21 PM
sorenson - 2/24/2009 9:11 PM African or European swallow? I don't know that... I still owe you a shrubbery.
Whats your favorite color?
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Location: Southern W.Va. | I have a few double 10s but throw them very little. When it comes to double bladed bucktails I generally throw double-8s, mostly baits that I put together myself. With that being said I still catch as many on #5 French bladed baits as I ever did. There is a time and a place for all baits , it's just what you have confidence in throwing and I've seen very little success in the #10 bladed baits.
I know they catch fish but for some reason they don't catch fish when I'm around. I've fished with people who were throwing big monster bladed baits and still catch fish when they go fishless with the big blades. My size may not be as large as the fish caught on DCG but my overall success has been better with smaller bladed baits.
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| i would say pretty much done.... for 1, most (not all) when buying a new bucktail wouldnt even look at the single blades.... so alot less will be purchased and good luck selling your used single blades, no one is buying them...i started selling most of my singles a yr ago and still cant get rid of em.....anyone want a buy a few send me a PM? |
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Location: Wauwatosa, Wisconsin | i love number 8s and 5s....you can really burn those with out getting to tired. |
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| Slow Rollin - 2/25/2009 4:28 PM
i would say pretty much done.... for 1, most (not all) when buying a new bucktail wouldnt even look at the single blades.... so alot less will be purchased and good luck selling your used single blades, no one is buying them...i started selling most of my singles a yr ago and still cant get rid of em.....anyone want a buy a few send me a PM?
Hope you're right. The rest of you guys keep throwing big blades, the fish don't like singles anymore, won't hit em. They only hit double number 10-20 blades.
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Location: Bemidji/Cass Lake | If fish are hot, throw what they can find the easiest. D10's are the style of in-line spinner that standout the best. I guess it depends on what size of fish you have in the water you are on, throw 8's if you aren't dealing with anything over low 40s. I still throw harrassars and lillytails early in the year, or when things aren't really turned on but still want a spinner on. |
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| The single blaed Bucktail era will never come to an end.
THey can do things that Doubles cant do and Doubles can do things that singles cant do.
I still put more fish in the boat with singles.
Not sure but to me it seems like on some bodies of water single almost always out fish doubles.......and vis versa
Just my2cents
Tom Boley
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| Someone better call Mepps and tell them that their days are numbered......Never!
With or without a cocoanut? |
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| Early in the season can be real good. Everyone is throwing their big brand new lure they got in the winter yet it's the black muskie killer that makes them eat.
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Location: WI | Snurgoil - 2/25/2009 10:32 AM
I'm curious to know if anyone has success with catching spring pike on double bladed bucktails?
Last may I caught a pike around 30" on a dbl 8 rabid squirrel bait. Nailed it right as the bait was nearing the boat.
I find myself throwing the dbl 8's a lot, and single blades almost never. I've had more luck on those than the dbl10's, but I also use them more.
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Location: Pittsburgh PA | I am big fan of single blade bucktails . I have double cowgirls and I do through them they do catch fish theres no mistake about that. I do feel that a larger profile comes in handy sometimes in the fall and during a rain fall or when the river is on the rise. It is just hard to maintain grove with that much resistants.Some guys are gearing up with sea reels to ease there pain. I am thinking the same thing |
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| Is the era of the single bladed bucktail over?
They'll never catch another fish sitting in the tackle box. Got a hunch they still work though. |
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | I have had days where the double 10 or 9's were all they would hit. Other days they would only follow but burning a Mepps french blade or a single willow had them all over it.
Double 10's, are great bucktails but I will always mix it up. Never will you see all my clients using the same baits. Here is an example:One client will toss a DC10, the next a single blade willow or french bladed tail and the last client will use a deep running spinnerbait. Once the fish show us whats hot we will change up one more rod to the hot bait. This is an example when the blade bite is on only.
The single blade bucktail is alive and well. For those who don't pull them out they are missing out on lots of fish. Do not think they do not work. Single blade rock early in the season.
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| i was at the fishing connection today one of the premeire musky shops in Chicago area.i asked him is anyone been buying single bladed bucktails and the owner said no.So maybe right now they are resting for the time being.b |
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| Not for me, anyway. Don't even have one in the tackle box. From what I hear, they are a chore to retrieve hour after hour. As long as I'm still ctaching fish on single bladed bucktails I'll stay with them. If I need a better workout I'll head for the gym. |
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| I still ask the same question at times. I still prefer when fishing my local waters, to use single blade bucktails. I believe if the waters, such as locally(Price Co) are not capable of producing, very few, if any 45"+ fish, the big blades are just too much.
If any one feels otherwise please let me know.
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Location: Twin Cities | bucksnort - 3/10/2009 1:31 AM
I believe if the waters, such as locally(Price Co) are not capable of producing, very few, if any 45"+ fish, the big blades are just too much.
Dean
A majority of fish caught for me on double 10's are smaller than 45" between muskies and pike. Smallest i've gotten was a 22 inch muskie last year. Not to tell you how to fish, but size of the fish is pretty irrelevant for these things! |
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Location: Land of the Musky | My big pike in spring love them! |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | 2 words for everyone: Eagle......Tail
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | I haven't used any single bladed bucktails for a while, but we caught a lot of fish the last two years on CJs spinner baits. It seemed the more of those big double bladed bucktails we saw people throw, the more fish we caught on the CJs.
To show you why I love the CJs so much, here are the stats for my boat the last two years:
- 135 total hours on the water (pathetic, huh?).
- 39 Muskies caught with a 43 inch average (I caught 30 of them.)
- 36 Muskies on CJs spinner baits.
- One 44 inch Muskie on a Bionic Bucktail spinner bait (one of my fishing partners).
- The largest was my 52 inch fatty caught on a ten inch Kickin Minnow last year.
- One little 30 incher on a small plastic bait.
- Zero fish caught on Cow Girls and it wasn't like they didn't get wet. Maybe we need to reel faster or something?
Which CJs were the best? It all depended on the lake and the day. One day the fish were tearing up single bladed hair baits. Another day on a different lake it was small double bladed skirted baits, and another day it would be something else. The best color was usually what was on the line.
You all keep throwing those bucktails. I'll keep my net slimed with the CJs. OK?
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| The big blades were at one time popular years ago but not as popular as
today. They did not get the press back then but worked. Double bladed is also nothing new. Been throwing them for years but not the big ones. Everything goes around and fades out and finds a revival someplace in time. Look at all the baits and you'll see thats true.
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Location: Muskegon Michigan | I never caught a fish on a double 10. Double 8 Shumway flasher? yes tons of fish. I imagine they have thier place. I still throw mostly smaller stuff that doesnt kill my arms. But Why throw spinners at all? I have much more fun using other lures like Twitch baits and Cranks. I catch most of my Muskies on baits other than spinners. But then again I like to troll AND cast. Kingfisher |
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | I think all lures have their time and place. Whether or not one catches fish with a lure mostly depends on if one actually uses it. All types of lures can catch fish, but not all people can catch fish with all types of lures.
For instance, I can't catch much with an extra large bucktail of any type or a jerk-bait, but give me a spinner bait or a good plastic bait and I'm in business. It is different for each person. Some can light them up with topwaters or gliders while others prefer crank baits and many prefer the basic bucktails and spinner baits.
I think the important thing is to find a set of lures that work for you. There are no right or wrong lures. Its just fishing.
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Location: WI | I'll throw a single or double 8 in calm to a slight chop. Windy? Bust out the big blades! |
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Location: Alexandria, Minnesota | even though I sell double bladed glittertails, I am a huge fan of magnum harrassers they are priced right and have put a lot of fish in the boat for me. I use the single bladed fluted colorado's |
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Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?