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| Any good reels out there for these killer lures.b |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Okuma Induron 400LDX |
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| daiwa luna love it!!!! |
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| for those using lunas / indurons did you put power handles on them and if so did it make that big of a difference for db 10's? i use the lunas myself and think they are great reels but i have been using the stock paddle handles on them... |
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| I prefer to cast and reel lefty too. For Cowgirls, I normally use a Shimano Calcutta 401TE with a power handle. Works well. I find that the power handle makes a difference in grip mostly, giving me more options on holding the paddle when cranking.
I also have a righty Shimano Trinidad 16N for Cowgirls. Much larger reel with greater line pickup that allows me to really burn a Cowgirl.
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Yes of course put the power handle on the and it make it so much easier to crank. |
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Location: Syracuse, Indiana | I'll second the 401TE, but intend to give the lefty Revo a try this year. |
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| muskie! nut - 2/14/2009 9:00 PM
Okuma Induron 400LDX and yes with with a power handle |
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| Avet MXJ 5.8:1 with MC (magnetic cast control) Lefty |
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| I'm not a lefty but I used the Abu Toro with the 5.4 gears last year for CowGirls and it worked great and it's available in a lefty model. The Abu 7001i is also another option if you want a big reel for them. Both already come with power handles also. |
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| I have the Calcutta 401TE with a power handle and a Abu Garcia 7001 and they both work well. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | reelman - 2/16/2009 11:19 AM
I'm not a lefty but I used the Abu Toro with the 5.4 gears last year for CowGirls and it worked great and it's available in a lefty model. The Abu 7001i is also another option if you want a big reel for them. Both already come with power handles also.
I'm not a lefty either, but prefer the crank on the same side as my spinning reel. Besides, I'll bet a majority of those that are left handed use right side cranking reels. |
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| I meant I don't crank the reel with my left hand. I have heard all the arguments as to why some people use a right handed reel and some use a left and it really just comes down to what you are comfortable with. When I try to reel with my left hand I look like a monkey trying to make love to a football ;~) |
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Location: madison wisconsin | reelman - 2/16/2009 5:18 PM
I meant I don't crank the reel with my left hand. I have heard all the arguments as to why some people use a right handed reel and some use a left and it really just comes down to what you are comfortable with. When I try to reel with my left hand I look like a monkey trying to make love to a football ;~)
I hear ya reelman. I'm a righty and tried lefty reels and I see a monkey, too.  |
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| Any guys prefering the left side crank should really do themselves a favor and take a serious look at the 7001 I from Abu Garcia. The thing is a tank, already geared great for double tens, power handle is standard, and it's very affordable. Call me crazy but it seems like a no-brainer. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | reelman - 2/16/2009 5:18 PM
When I try to reel with my left hand I look like a monkey trying to make love to a football ;~)
I'll bet money that you don't look that way cranking a spinning reel. Do you?????
I've had people tell that they can't crank with their left hand. Then I ask what side is your spinning reel on?? The tell me left side. I though you just told me that you couldn't crank with your left hand??? Oh the reel is on the bottom. Yeah, like that matters. 
I really don't care what side someone cranks a reel one. But it seems that we go to great lengths to have sharp hooks, the best leaders, great line, no snaps, etc. but to suggest that you will impart better action on your lures, quicker hooksets, stronger hooksets with your dominate hand, this is not a good option. I don't understand. I still encourage anybody that is instructing a newby that they consider using their dominate hand to hold the rod. It will drastically cut their ability to be able to do these critical items I have stated above. |
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| Yeah I really do think it makes a difference with the reel on the bottom. Sorry but I don't buy that holding the rod in the right hand vs. the left hand makes any difference, and can't see how it imparts any different action on the lure. It's all what you are used to. |
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| would that avet mxj 5.8:1 mc handle double 13/14 on up to the t-rex(just picked up one of these beasts at the show) |
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| Boy thx guys a few questions thou which color is the abu red or the gold?What is the price of the avent mjx 5.8?Does the okuma come with the handle?I saw in mark Rogers chat that he throws in the handle free. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | 0723 - 2/17/2009 7:59 AM
Does the okuma come with the handle?I saw in mark Rogers chat that he throws in the handle free.
No it does not come with a power handle. Just pm California_muskie or email him at [email protected] and ask him very nicely that you would like a power handle.
Dang, I missed that chat last week. I'll have to read what happened. Looking forward to finding out what's new in their muskie rod line up. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | reelman - 2/16/2009 11:47 PM
Sorry but I don't buy that holding the rod in the right hand vs. the left hand makes any difference, and can't see how it imparts any different action on the lure. It's all what you are used to.
It does if you are just starting out. I will agree that most angler after a coupe of yrs have it down, but a newby would be able to impart action on let's say a reef hawg a whole lot quicker than someone using their non-dominate hand.
That said I fish with a guy that has been fishing muskies since 1966. He switches hands while muskie fishing. To this day he can not get a jackpot to swing back and forth in one place. He also can not get a big ploop out it it either. I like fishing with him as I normally out fish him from the back for the boat. |
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| The Avet is the lefty equivalent to the Trinidads. They pull in big blades better than any freshwater reel on the market. You can't compare them to TE's or 7001. |
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| kevin,
which avet? the sx or the mxl or the mxj? the single speed or the two speed version? |
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| I have both the Avet SX 2 speed and the MXJ MC 5.8:1
Here's a link to charkbait, this is the place to get them.
http://www.charkbait.com/cs/csrAvet.htm
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| If you are serious about buying an Avet I would not purchase one without the magnetic cast control. I have one without it and the difference is very noticeable. The MXJ magnetic with 5.8:1 gears is the one to go with. Also, they come in alot of very cool colors. |
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Location: Apollo, PA | Not to sound stupid, but does the line go on even when reeling with no levelwind??
Also, how are the drags??
I think Captain Bigfish is behind this AVet movement!
Thanks, PS |
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| Those Avets look like wicked cool reels but I can't imagine having to flip that lever drag everytime before and after you cast. |
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| kevin / others,
for comparison purposes, after looking at the avet website i see the sx models hold 220 yards of 20 lb having a 5:3.1 ratio and weighs 14.8 oz vs. the mxj model that holds 300 yards of 20 lb having a 5:8.1 ratio and weighs in at 18 oz. with all that being said, we all know we are only going to fill the spool with "x" yards of braid and use "filler" beneath so why not go with the sx that weighs in at 3.2 oz less with its' ration at 5:3.1 vs the mxj at a 5:8.1 ratio? does that bit of difference in the gear ratio going to make that much difference pulling db 10's? if not, personally i would think a bit less in physical weight would be a good thing. secondly, are these reels "specific" in that you would not want to use them for throwing heavier plastics or heavier jerk / glidebaits in addition to the db 10's? thirdly, if the avet is the "way to go" would it be a good or bad idea to get the two speed version for these applications?
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| Any word on the avet sx,it does have a 5.3 ratio/b |
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| do they make the mxj in a lefty model?All I see is the Mxl in lefty. |
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| The Avets MXJ are made in a left-hand retrieve. You can contact charkbait and they can get you one. I went with the 5.8:1 MXJ and not the two-speed because the two speed is about $100 more. Not much difference for the money.
The SX compared to the MXJ..... The SX is a pretty tiny but powerful reel. The MXJ has a greater line pickup per turn of the handle in comparison to the SX. You can call the company to get the specifics as far as inches per turn. I would compare this model to a Trinidad narrow spool reel. It has a larger handle and is much easier to pull in big blades.
The ONLY thing that I would use this reel for is to pull in blades, ie: 10's-13's or bigger. You need the resistence of the blades to correctly spool the line back on the spool. You cannot use these reels for other baits. The resistence/pull of big blades is needed.
The reels will spool themselves. When reeling in blades you need to stick the tip of the rod in the water about 3-5 inches when retrieving. Do not fill the spool with braid to the top. I spool mine about 1/8in from the edge of the spool. I use Siffix 80lb braid and that seems to work the best.
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| HAs anybody used one of these for musky fishing? All I hear are responses about how good they should be but no actual reports. If you have used it for heavy duty casting how is it to constantly have to flip the lever drag back and forth and how free does the spool spin in freespool? Lever drags are notorious for still having drag preasure on the spool even in free spool because the drags are atually on the spool, not in the gear stack like push button reels. |
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Location: East of muskie country | I also have the same questions as reelman. Does anyone have any actual performance comparisons between the Avet's and Saltist, TE's, Luna's, Trinidads, Toriums, or Induron's???
Was getting ready to pull the trigger on a Saltist for strictly burning 10's, but now I'm intrigued with these Avet reels. Thanks |
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| ok then, since i am trying hard NOT to add a reel specifically for db 10's and want to stay away from abu products, while keeping the reel weight to a minimum and stay HIGHER quality with levelwind, should i just stick with my luna 300L's or step up to the calcutta 401TE or...?
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Okuma 400LDX with a power handle. That's all you need. |
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| I used the Avets last year for muskies. These reels will only work with blades. If you want something that is all purpose and a lefty do NOT buy this reel. There is no pressure on the spool when casting, the reel is in free spool mode. The reels have a magnetic spool tension to reduce backlash.
I own 401TE's and Lunas. The Calcuttas are the best multi-purpose reel that I have used that is left-handed. I have problems with the instant anti-reverse going out on the Lunas. I have owned many 7001's but they did not hold up as long as the TE's. I have not used an Okuma and probably won't.
If Daiwa made the Saltist in a left-hand reel with a levelwind I would buy it but they don't. If I retrieved with my right hand I would buy a Saltist in a heartbeat. |
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Location: Michigan | STUSHSKY - 2/18/2009 8:17 AM
kevin / others,
for comparison purposes, after looking at the avet website i see the sx models hold 220 yards of 20 lb having a 5:3.1 ratio and weighs 14.8 oz vs. the mxj model that holds 300 yards of 20 lb having a 5:8.1 ratio and weighs in at 18 oz. with all that being said, we all know we are only going to fill the spool with "x" yards of braid and use "filler" beneath so why not go with the sx that weighs in at 3.2 oz less with its' ration at 5:3.1 vs the mxj at a 5:8.1 ratio? does that bit of difference in the gear ratio going to make that much difference pulling db 10's? if not, personally i would think a bit less in physical weight would be a good thing. secondly, are these reels "specific" in that you would not want to use them for throwing heavier plastics or heavier jerk / glidebaits in addition to the db 10's? thirdly, if the avet is the "way to go" would it be a good or bad idea to get the two speed version for these applications?
thanks,
stan
I feel like I have been sleeping... These reels are totally new to me. How did I not know about this Left handed option... Looks like a great reel. This might make the must have list...
Thanks
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| I've been looking at the Avets and just for curiosity took the levelwind off one of my reels and it didn't seem to be that big a deal. I thought the line went on better jerking it rather than straight retrieve. I think maybe using 65# braided doesn't pile up in one spot so bad compared to if you where using say 100# mono. The other thought i had was that when most people including myself stop the spool and start reeling bucktails and spinners before they hit the water that might be tough using a lever drag. I like the feel of the reel and it might be kind of cool to try one.
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| I found an old display model Avet sx 5.3 and there is no cast control on it. With the free spool spinning forever on these reels do you think it will be hard not to get backlash? I'm very experienced with baitcasters but even i get backlash once in a while. Just wondering what others thought.
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| Why won't other baits besides heavy resistance lures work for the Avet. Is it just because no levelwind? Why wouldn't the line go on fine without a levelwind?
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Location: Nowheresville, MN | Just spent 9 days with the new Avet MXJ 5.8 lefty MC. I set it up based upon Cochran's recommendations and the reel is awesome. The only thing I might do different is get the two speed since I like to slow roll big blades. You can do it with the 5.8, but you have to think about it. Casting is a breeze and I had no issues with the line going on. The faster you reeled (more resistance) the easier it was to cast cuz the line layed down tighter. The magnetic cast control is awesome. Switch from a supermodel to DCG to little 8s to baby girls by just clicking the dial and you don't have to worry about changing anything with your casting style/thumb. The lever drag is nothing. It took me about 3 casts to get used to it. There are click-stops on the lever so it is very easy. If you need a lefty high speed reel this is it. ***Be sure to order/specify you need the NARROW REEL FOOT or it won't fit into a non-saltwater rod. |
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Location: Nowheresville, MN | Forgot, Avet says this reel has 37"/crank. I can't imagine having anything faster. It already is tough to burn them with the resistance of 37". The resistance is not in the reel, but the hand you hold your rod in. The rod wants to pull out of your hands. |
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| I wanted to say my thanks to those who posted on the Avet. I bought the left handed mxl. I had previously used the garcia 7001. To me the real has a lot of power and is yet very comfortable. It didn't take me long to get use to manually flipping the engage mechanism. I also liked the casting controls as well as the different fighting positions on the engage mechanism. I have already boated 10 muskies and numerous pike on the reel. I have been running the reel speed at 3 for maximum casting, but occasionally put it at 4 for those of you familiar with the reel. If the reel lasts the whole season I likely will get some more. I am considering now getting a right hand SX model for a back up reel and for guests.
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lefty cowgirl reel?