Posted 1/29/2009 5:19 PM (#358067 - in reply to #358065) Subject: Re: Video: Ice Musky
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Location: Yahara River Chain
I don't see anything wrong. The reason I don't hand land muskies is because we have 2 or 3 sets of trebles on our baits, this not their teeth that worries me. If I was using a spinner bait or a jig (and sometimes do), I don't see any problem, just don't stick your fingers into their mouth.
Posted 1/31/2009 3:19 PM (#358418 - in reply to #358065) Subject: Re: Video: Ice Musky
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Location: Rhinelander.
Why would they just not cut the line and let it go? You can't keep it and its out of season so why subject it to all the stress and cold air. It was probaly am inexpensice bait they had on. Just asking as I'm curious.
Posted 1/31/2009 5:05 PM (#358429 - in reply to #358418) Subject: Re: Video: Ice Musky
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Location: Yahara River Chain
Don Pfeiffer - 1/31/2009 3:19 PM
Why would they just not cut the line and let it go? You can't keep it and its out of season so why subject it to all the stress and cold air. It was probaly am inexpensice bait they had on. Just asking as I'm curious.
I just can't imagine being any worst than hooking a fish in the spring, summer, or fall. And I don't think it would be better to cut the line and leaving a hook in it (depends on where, how deep it was hooked, of course). If it was caught while jigging (which it looks like it was), most likely it was in the mouth and not deep. When I get a fish and need to cut hooks, I make sure I remove all metal from the fish. I don't want to take a chance of leaving anything in that fish that could harm it farther.
So Don, I am curious, do you think that is a dead fish now??? It sure didn't look like it to me. And if you think these fish are so fragile, then why are we even fishing for them in the 1st place at any time?? Pike and walleyes are caught and released through the ice all the time. Would it not be wise to not fish for them as well??? Or is it just muskies that have a problem with stress and cold???
Posted 1/31/2009 6:26 PM (#358441 - in reply to #358065) Subject: Re: Video: Ice Musky
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Location: Oregon
Great video...........thx for sharing it.
Jed
BenR
Posted 1/31/2009 6:34 PM (#358443 - in reply to #358065) Subject: Re: Video: Ice Musky
I noticed a large tiger muskie presence while ice fishing for trout here in CO, I think I might just have to try to catch a few of those muskie...would be fun through the ice.
Posted 1/31/2009 6:45 PM (#358447 - in reply to #358443) Subject: Re: Video: Ice Musky
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Location: Iowa
How do we know if it was out of season?? Maybe I missed the part where it said where this fish was, but many states don't have a closed season on all the muskie lakes because there is no natural reproduction to speak of. I don't see where that fish has any less chance of survival than one caught in the heat of the summer. Sure would be fun to land one that way though. I don't know why I haven't tried it here in Iowa yet.
Posted 1/31/2009 8:45 PM (#358462 - in reply to #358429) Subject: Re: Video: Ice Musky
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
That video was just like happens. The time from when the fish came out of the water and when it went back in was cut out while they unhooked the fish.
I also would bet it was caught on a jig or spoon by the tackle they were using.
The time it takes to get the fish to turn it's head up the hole is most of the battle. Getting the fish to the hole is the easy part. Reaching down the hole is the best way to get a big fish out and unhooked fast. He did a great job slipping the hand into the gill plate and controling the fish. You can't see the hook removal but I bet it was quick. They knew what they were doing. Fast out and fast to go back in.
I did it Friday night for one of my clients. We set up for walleyes on Pewaukee lake and a ski hit a minnow before we got all the tip-ups set.
Getting a big ski to open her gill plate just pisses them off sometimes. If you do it slow and easy they will let you slip your hand in there and get a good grip. Then your in control and you can pull it out and unhook it.
As for the cold. If its very cold I will only bring the mouth out of the hole. I try to keep the entire fish in the water then just push her back down.. They are very easy to release in cold water. Freezing temps can be very bad on the eyes and fins. Block the wind and keep the fish in the water. Cut the line if it's swallowed. No need to remove the fish in harsh conditions like sub zero temps.
Good job and video. We just can't see the hook removal. She looked ready to go back. Nice healthy fish. I got some great video's too.
Posted 1/31/2009 9:10 PM (#358464 - in reply to #358462) Subject: Re: Video: Ice Musky
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Mikes Extreme - 1/31/2009 8:45 PM
That video was just like happens. The time from when the fish came out of the water and when it went back in was cut out while they unhooked the fish.
I also would bet it was caught on a jig or spoon by the tackle they were using.
The time it takes to get the fish to turn it's head up the hole is most of the battle. Getting the fish to the hole is the easy part. Reaching down the hole is the best way to get a big fish out and unhooked fast. He did a great job slipping the hand into the gill plate and controling the fish. You can't see the hook removal but I bet it was quick. They knew what they were doing. Fast out and fast to go back in.
I did it Friday night for one of my clients. We set up for walleyes on Pewaukee lake and a ski hit a minnow before we got all the tip-ups set.
Getting a big ski to open her gill plate just pisses them off sometimes. If you do it slow and easy they will let you slip your hand in there and get a good grip. Then your in control and you can pull it out and unhook it.
As for the cold. If its very cold I will only bring the mouth out of the hole. I try to keep the entire fish in the water then just push her back down.. They are very easy to release in cold water. Freezing temps can be very bad on the eyes and fins. Block the wind and keep the fish in the water. Cut the line if it's swallowed. No need to remove the fish in harsh conditions like sub zero temps.
Good job and video. We just can't see the hook removal. She looked ready to go back. Nice healthy fish. I got some great video's too.
In the video they say it was caught on a power grub, not a jig or spoon.
Posted 2/1/2009 11:13 AM (#358518 - in reply to #358505) Subject: RE: Video: Ice Musky
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
Yup, been around for quite awhile. That's not a state, it's NW Ontario, I think it is Crow Lake, but I am not positive. Either way they were Lake Trout fishing so it is one of the trout lakes. Cool video
Posted 2/1/2009 11:18 PM (#358645 - in reply to #358429) Subject: Re: Video: Ice Musky
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Location: Rhinelander.
Heavens no I do not think it is a dead fish. I think they did an ok job with it as far as I could see. I was just asking why even bring it out of the water. If it were one of the days like we had here (wind chills -35 harm can be done quickly. Actually I pretty much feel it handled well. I did not mean to suggest anything else.
Video: Ice Musky