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| I posted earlier asking advice about Hellhounds and got some good responses. I am new to musky fishing (2 years) so I am looking for info to make some good tackles choices. Anyway, which one do you prefer and for what conditions. Also, do you have any big preferences on colors? Thanks to all the posters that replied to the Hellhounds question. Good luck to everyone this year in their pursuit of the beast.
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| Bobbie baits are much more buoyant, so they are harder to get down, and rise much quicker. Because of their added bulk, I find BB's easier to cast in the wind, or if you are fishing over something.
Suicks shine when you get some extra time to add a few twitches during the rise portion of the retrieve. Some time the fish like the dance, and some time they like the boring straight pull/rise retreive. As the water cools, I go to big Suicks more and more, and try to bore the fish into submition.
You can troll both lures, and I'd give the nod to Bobbies on that application. You can do some wild stuff with the tail configuration to get them to ride away from the boat.
I like both for throw-back lures in weed or milfoil pockets. Toss it out and let it sit for just as long as you can stand it.
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| They are both standards and have been catching muskies for a loooong time. Unweighted for shallower/cover applications(they back up/out on the pause). I weight my own with the Fudally weight system. Work 'em down and let 'em haaaaaang. Yum yum. Still made from wood, which can vary in density, causing some to run "differently" than others . Tune them(moreso on the Suicks) and work WITH the individual bait. Don't believe the "ya gotta buy 10 to get one that runs right". Ok, define "right". Same deal with Reef Hawgs. They all run, some just differently than others. vary your cadence and discover the 'personality' of each one. Do this and your confidence will grow, and in turn ,so will your photo album. G'luck! Old School
Edited by Steve Jonesi 1/8/2009 12:12 AM
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| A buddy of mine modified his Bobbie Baits so that they have the "lip" of a Suick. He calls them a "Buick." I know, quite original. Those things are incredible and give the best of both baits. Quite deadly with the action he gets out of them. | |
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Location: WI | The small Bobbies have a really nice wiggle. | |
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| I hate to post this but couldn't resist. I have 3 Suicks, and all three (even the strawberry jail bird) appear quite fishy but I can get consistent action out of them and alas no confidence. No fish on the 3.
Last year I got an old Bobbie (from Appleton, WI) from my father in law, and man is it a sweet bait. It runs true, and I've had one big blow up on it, and I'm convinced it's a winner. I like the "plusche" sound it makes when you yank it down, and the shimmy it makes as it rises.
Sorry, no educated experience, no in-depth knowledge, no monsters on the wall here but just sentiment. I'll reach for the Bobbie. | |
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Location: Hugo, MN | I'm a huge fan of the Suicks, but I've only got two that I've caught fish on. One sucker pattern and one chart/black dots. The chartreuse bait has so much movement and randomness to it's action, it's become the only one I throw anymore. I have a half dozen others that I should throw into the mix, since the chartreuse suick is going to fall apart soon.
As far as Bobbie baits, I've not used the two I bought very much in the last ten years. I have noticed they are much more bouyant, and have more of a side to side shimmy when trolled. However, My suicks have treated me well, and I have confidence in them, so it's hard to go away from them when fishing is tough...which is often. | |
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| I love tinkering with my Suicks. I add weight all over the place in order to slow down the rise or make them neutral. I have quite a few that I can give a couple of short pulls to, and then as it tries to rise I'll give it a snap or two and it will take off like a shot.....I usually don't know where.
Another technique is working them over weeds and rocks. After a pull or two, I watch the line to track the progress of the rise of the lure, and at just the right instant I give it a yank and the tail makes a ploop that can be heard from a long way off. I also cast to weed pockets, and on the right cast, I just let it sit for as long as I can stand it, then I give it a short yank and feed it slack to keep it in the pocket.
I looked through my log, and there is a 3 year span where I fished Mohawksin alot and caught lots of fish on Suicks. 2nd place was Reef Hawgs. I haven't had a year since when those 2 were on the top.
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | I use the Fudally weighting system on my suicks, too....using larger or smaller weights depending on how slow a rise I'm looking for--then of course tinkering with the tail....I play in the laundry sink over the winter getting baits as close to neutral as possible then record which weight gets that done...seems like a never ending process, but always fun...in some demented way...someone should make a bumpersticker that says, "HAPPINESS IS A PERFECTLY TUNED SUICK!" | |
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| You gotta love the Suick. They just keep working year after year. You really need to learn how to use them. Everyone is allittle different and you gotta get them to go right and left as much as possible. Best way I've found is two sharp pulls, short pause, pull, longer pause, pull, long pause. Repeat. Never have found a bait that replaces them. Bobbies are the same except more bouyant and they have a little wiggle. Use them and believe in them. Big fish love 'em. | |
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| I'm a big fan of suicks, too. I have 8 or so, and the most productive one does what someone once described to me as "death wobble on the rise". As it rises it makes a motion like a dog shaking water out of its ears (as you and the dog are facing each other). I can't seem to tune my other suicks to do this motion.
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Location: Dixon, IL | I used both Suick and Bobbie. You can buy Suick almost any tackle shop and Bobbie is pretty hard to find unless you can get it from large speical tackle shop or order on line internet. Suick get more colors than Bobbie. Both is good and little different way so why not get both and see for yourself. Most musky anglers like Suick over Bobbie but both get big fish! | |
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