620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060
musky boys
Posted 12/28/2008 8:43 PM (#351934)
Subject: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




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Lets here which one you would pick and why. Thanks in advanced
esoxfly
Posted 12/28/2008 10:48 PM (#351944 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Kodiak, AK
I'm a Ranger owner, so it gets my vote. But I know a couple of Tuffy owners, and I've not heard anything bad about them. I would think about dealer support though...like here in MI, there aren't any Tuffy dealers for parts or whatever. May not be a big deal, but something to consider.
Pedro
Posted 12/28/2008 11:54 PM (#351950 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Otsego, MN
I own a Ranger and love it. Thought about Tuffy before and have heard great things about them, but here in MN there are no dealers and that was a major player in my choice.
Tuffy Boats
Posted 12/29/2008 2:25 AM (#351964 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


There are two active Tuffy dealers in MN. Johnson's On the Water in Park Rapids is new this Fall, has boats ordered, and will be attending shows in NW MN. Tuffy has a dealer in SW WI that covers the LaCrosse and mid river area. Go Fasters would be delighted to sell an order out Tuffy out in western MN. Tuffy is working on a Minneapolis/St Paul dealer, but in this very tough marine economy many dealers across the midwest are struggling, so it may be next summer before that's a reality.
Shep
Posted 12/29/2008 8:22 AM (#351972 - in reply to #351964)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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I can think of more than about 12,000 reasons to buy the 2060 over the 620. While the Ranger has a wider beam, it's basically wasted with those compartments on the sides. I think the Tuffy rides better, and handles better in big water, and it's faster, too. Tiller, single and dual console, and full windshield models are available in the same hull. The Esox Deep-V's come with a removeable rear casting deck that gives even mopre storage. And the front compartments won't fill up with water, which is a bonus. Center rod locker will take at least an 8 1/2 foot rod.
Rangerboy
Posted 12/29/2008 8:30 AM (#351974 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


I can think of 20,001 reasons to buy the 620. The number one reason: It's a RANGER!
bturg
Posted 12/29/2008 9:16 AM (#351984 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




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Edited by bturg 12/30/2008 8:14 PM
Shep
Posted 12/29/2008 12:33 PM (#352012 - in reply to #351984)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Equipped the same? Yes, the Tuffy will be faster. You think Ranger's are the fastest boats out there?

Certainly not in the same price class. Look, I'm not saying Ranger is not a good, or even a great boat. But I won't afford one. Not that I can't. There is not one thing a Ranger will do that my Tuffy won't do just as well, or better. I think the Tuffy is a better value. And there is nothing wrong with the fit and finish on a Tuffy.

2008 2060 250 ProXS, Prokicker, 80 Terrova AP/US, LCX 27 $43K last year.

2008 620 Ranger equipped the same? $57K plus. That's a lot of fit and finish, eh?
run n gun
Posted 12/29/2008 2:41 PM (#352031 - in reply to #352012)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




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Location: Aurora, IL.
Good God!

Tuffy's are great boats and the 2060's are very nice but dont include them in the same breathe as a 620.
Its not the Tuffy's fault Shep but you went there first.
Yep there more expensive. Tell you what, at the sport shows get in the Tuffy of your choice open the hatches, doors, livewells, etc. Then do the same to the 620 or any Ranger for that matter. Then make your own decision. Oh did I mention the Ranger trail trailor or the resale value of the Ranger.

Joe

bn
Posted 12/29/2008 3:28 PM (#352037 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


they are both good boats than can do pretty much the same things..personally I like all the storage in the 620s if I was going to buy one and don't for one second think of that as "wasted space"...that is plano box storage to me....
the tuffy vs ranger argument to me, is more like a toyata vs lexus argument....sure the lexus is just a nicer toyota...sort of like ranger vs tuffy..imo. and that is just it, my opinion, they both are nice, but the Rangers are just flat out nicer, i've been in a number of tuffys and in plenty of Rangers to see that there is a difference....Tuffys are a good value that is for sure...Rangers are going to be more expensive purchased new...I don't know if a 2060, would really be faster than a 620 with the same motor...last I checked you didn't get a prize for having the fastest musky boat..
have fun boat shopping....both are good boats, but i know where i'd stick my money ....to each their own right...
lambeau
Posted 12/29/2008 4:27 PM (#352046 - in reply to #352037)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


they're...different.
which is good for everyone since it means you get to pick the one you like. both boats have reputations for handling big water conditions well.

when it comes to speed, there are different kinds: speed when it's calm and speed when it's rough.
the Tuffy 2060's reputation on the Walleye tournament trails is as one of the fastest boats when conditions are bad. in a tournament that can be particularly important: 10 extra minutes fishing on either end of a long run over big water = 20 minutes a day = 1 hour of extra fishing during a 3-day event, and that can definitely matter. so can getting there with your kidneys intact, and the 2060 also benefits from a narrower beam which helps with a smooth ride.

do you pay more for the Ranger name? yes.
are Tuffy's a great boat at a good price? yes.
i've ridden and fished from both and they're each amazingly cool boats. my advice is to test fish both and then decide which one best fits your needs - the internet and the showroom floor are just good places to start, actually using one is the best info you can get.
mseybert
Posted 12/29/2008 5:44 PM (#352054 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Indiana
I have owned Ranger and Triton. I have fished out of many other brands. I have not fished from a Tuffy though so I can't speak for Tuffys.

I can say that Ranger is the best I have fished from. The fit, finish AND rigging, in my opinion, is second to none. We have all determined that they cost more, but to some anglers it is worth it. It is no ones right to bash someone for owning a Ranger (or Tuffy or Tracker or Triton or Crestliner etc).

It has already been said. Fish from them and make your own decision. Then offer your opinion to others when asked, don't force your opinion on them. I get tired of people judging others because of the boat they have (or don't have).
mike lewis
Posted 12/29/2008 7:43 PM (#352075 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


As far a resale on both boats, i have noticed the tuffys lose about the same percentage as the rangers, as far as fit and finish comparing rangers and tuffys is like comparing a cadillac and a mercedes both are great cars but boy do you pay extra for the mercedes, ranger makes a great boat,and so does tuffy,remember ranger is a bass boat company that make a great walleye boat, tuffy has been a leader in multi fish and musky boats for many years. both are great boats my tuffy is not any better than a ranger it just made more dollars and cents, to me.
bturg
Posted 12/29/2008 11:01 PM (#352113 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




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Edited by bturg 12/30/2008 8:15 PM
TJ DeVoe
Posted 12/29/2008 11:35 PM (#352118 - in reply to #352113)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




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Location: Stevens Point, WI
Ranger came into the Deep V boat game after Tuffy and others were already in it. Ranger is originally a bass boat company that expanded. Whoever said that is definitely right.

Some of the biggest names in the fishing industry have been in a Tuffy over the years including the likes of Al and Ron Linder, Dan Sura, Tony Portincaso, Dave Csanda, and others. Tuffy was one of the driving forces behind walleye tournament fishing when they were part of the MWC way back in the early 80's and has a rich 30 year plus history. Tuffy still is the only boat builder to focus on the Muskie market, and was first with a Muskie size livewell. No, they are not a national company, and never will be. Those are also reasons I run a Tuffy. Built in Wisconsin where I live. I also felt that as a Tuff Team member I had a better chance moving up to the factory team some day with a smaller company. Just my take on it.

Both are great companies, it really is about personal preference. Good luck in your choice.
sworrall
Posted 12/29/2008 11:36 PM (#352119 - in reply to #352031)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
run n gun - 12/29/2008 2:41 PM

Good God!

Tuffy's are great boats and the 2060's are very nice but dont include them in the same breathe as a 620.
Its not the Tuffy's fault Shep but you went there first.
Yep there more expensive. Tell you what, at the sport shows get in the Tuffy of your choice open the hatches, doors, livewells, etc. Then do the same to the 620 or any Ranger for that matter. Then make your own decision. Oh did I mention the Ranger trail trailor or the resale value of the Ranger.

Joe



Resale value:
Tuffy holds resale value as well as any other fiberglass rig. Tuffy holds a very good resale value throughout the model line. Fact.

Ranger builds a great boat. So does Tuffy. The TuffTrail (By Vanguard/Trailmaster) has custom matching fiberglass fenders, brakes, LED lighting, C frame welded custom fit construction, aluminum rims, retracting boat buckles, tongue jack, and stands tall next to any other trailer.

Yes, equal horsepower, the Tuffy will be faster, less wetted surface means a faster boat. Please do open the lockers at the show in any Tuffy, sealed watertight fiberglass storage, individual compartments glassed to the deck.

Form fitted center 12 rod locker in a 2060 will take a 9' rod. Custom built digital electrical system, every wire labeled every 6" through the rig. Dedicated fitted drop in Esox Deep V rear deck creates a huge rear deck and lots of extra storage...it's a 4 sided, form fitting compartment fitted with opposing gull wing lids.

Deck out a 2060, and you will be in the mid 40K range.

Drive both in big water and small, if you can, fish both, and make an informed decision.


sworrall
Posted 12/29/2008 11:58 PM (#352124 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Hey, Bob,

Ranger was originally a 'Bass Boat' company, officially entering the multi specie market about a decade after Tuffy was established if my memory serves me. I remember very clearly standing next to Mr. Wood at many shows, and talking boats with him. We still say hello whenever he is featured as a guest at an FLW Champonship, or the like, and talk a bit about the 'old days'.

The Ranger 1600 series was the first tiller they made specifically for the North country, and it featured an interior much like Tuffy's Esox of the day. I started with Tuffy in 1976, I believe, and they had been building a muskie/muti specie boat for a year or more already. A previous builder had sold a couple hundred Tuffy rigs in a deep green color with a little silver triangle Tuffy logo for at least 3 years prior to Glasway buying the tooling and rights to the brand.

It was a couple years after the 1600 introduction the first Fisherman series boat was introduced by Ranger, and was targeted at this market, not the V Hull big water market. The first big water boat they built was the 690 if memory serves.

One of the innovators in big water inland lake fishing hulls at that time was Yar Craft. Jack Dahlman popped a Cruiser's Inc runabout hull and put a Tuffy interior in it, introducing a big water deep V hull that's still in use by boat builders today. Skeeter entered the market in 1989 with a 17' model that was a dead pop of the Yar Craft Hull and innovated from there ( I was working for them at that time), just behind Champion's first Fish Hunter entry.




TJ DeVoe
Posted 12/30/2008 12:52 AM (#352128 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




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Location: Stevens Point, WI
bturg - 12/29/2008 11:47 PM

TJ please hand me whatever you are smokin, Whoever said Ranger is a Bass Boat Company is definatly right.........that is about as accurate a statement as saying Merc is a two stroke company because that is what they made first. I am all for Brand loyalty and supporting those who support you but at least be accurate in your statements and cut the my boat is the best cause I have one stuff.

Did I mention how great my 620 is.....................


Not exactly sure where in my post I said my boat is the best because I didn't say that. I told you why I have a Tuffy. To me, working with a smaller company and a boat that works for me is why I chose Tuffy. As was stated before, Tuffy was and is one of the only boat manufactures building boats directly for the musky market, hence another reason I went that route. It's all about personal preference. Both are great rigs.

Another major reason I went with Tuffy is the fact I wanted something different. The cost of the boat might of had a little to do with it too, another plus for the Tuffy.

As for Mercury being a two-stroke company; considering they have the most popular two stroke outboard ever built I'd say they've done alright with the Optimax. Mercury at this time still has the fastest fourstroke on the water. Yup, looks to me Mercury still owns the market with not only the best two stroke, but fourstroke.
bn
Posted 12/30/2008 8:14 AM (#352141 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


Lambeau, I get your point with the tournament thing over 3 days but have you done the math on the number of miles one would need to run over 3 days to get an extra hour of fishing time ? I did...at 5mph difference in top speed you have to run hundreds of miles ....600+....
How many miles does a typical walleye or musky guy run in a tournament?
lambeau
Posted 12/30/2008 8:47 AM (#352146 - in reply to #352141)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


for most "typical" guys, probably not that much.

but the serious guys fishing big money events on the Great Lakes, etc. could be making significantly long runs to spots where they've located concentrations of bigger fish. inshore fishermen down south will sometimes make 2-hour runs one-way during redfish tournaments.

even if it's not an hour over 3 days, as little as 30 minutes extra fishing time can matter when money is on the line...staying out just a bit longer before the run back for weigh-in...or even just getting there first by one minute in order to stake out the spot.
jonnysled
Posted 12/30/2008 9:20 AM (#352151 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: minocqua, wi.
one comment on the "big company response" ... i bought my ranger in 2003 and had a setup issue that i had difficulty working out with my dealer. i called the folks in flippin, arkansas and within a few minutes i was on the phone with the v.p. technical who was ridiculously helpful ... it was a situation where i was willing to drive to flippin, they knew i was seriouos and took over the situation making sure i was pleased with the choice of buying my ranger. those folks in arkansas may be a big company, but they were also wanting to make sure that i (the customer) was leaving them happy before letting me off the phone.

all that said, i now drive a tuffy ... an esox magnum for different reasons than stated above but my time as a ranger owner were pleasant ones.

boats i've owned include polarcraft, champion, boston whaler, ranger and now tuffy ... in that group of five i'd rank ranger and tuffy in 3rd or 4th place in fit and finish and no closer than 2nd in resale. i had people fighting over my whaler when i put it up for sale.

Edited by jonnysled 12/30/2008 9:24 AM
sworrall
Posted 12/30/2008 9:44 AM (#352155 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Whaler builds some cool stuff.

To answer the question about walleye tournaments, in many events over the last few years quite a few of the Pros were traveling as far as 50 miles or more one way. A couple boat builders increased the HP rating on their pro style walleye boats to 300 for what's perceived as a feature/benefit.

bn
Posted 12/30/2008 10:18 AM (#352164 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


trust me, I'm a firm believer in the theory that "seconds count" when chasing fish but I'm not about to buy a boat just because it can go 5 mph faster than what I have...if that were the case I'd have one of those sleek 300 hp bass boats that can hit 75...
when in comes right down to it, the fish don't care whether you have a $1,000 boat or a 70,000 fancy boat...
bn
Posted 12/30/2008 10:30 AM (#352168 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


l would also agree with Sled that the customer service experiences I've had with Ranger are a great reason to buy one...I bought a used 690 and purchased some add ons for it, front casting deck extension, new seats etc...they messed up the casting deck the first time but the service and time they took to make it right were amazing. It's great to call a company these days and get right to a person that knows what you want/need and does their part to get it done.
Had a similiar experience with some trailer lights from them..they mixed up sending the right ones, and didn't want or need me to send them back and overnighted the correct ones at their expense...Ranger goes out of their way, at least when I have dealt w/ them to make their consumers happy...and I bought a used one...so I'm not some big wig plunking down 60k at the nearest Ranger dealer...
nwild
Posted 12/30/2008 10:32 AM (#352169 - in reply to #352155)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that a question of this sort would bring out a whole bunch of "mine is the best" attitude. Kind of the nature of the discussion.

I run a very similar boat, a Tuffy 1890, and here was my decision making process. I fished out of both Tuffys and Rangers, liked the fishability of them both but they were both lacking in some of the features I wanted. Tuffy retooled their interior layout and bingo...there was the boat I wanted almost to a T.

The plusses of the Tuffy is no wasted space. Every inch of the interior layout was thought with fishermen in mind. I have tons of storage, especially with the Esox model rear deck, a HUGE rod locker, and literally yards of fishing surface. A musky sized livewell in place if I ever need it cinched the deal. These are things that set my Tuffy apart from the comparable Ranger.

Buy what you find fits your needs the most. I've never owned a Ranger, but just from the loyalty on this thread from Ranger owners I assume you would get a quality product. I own a Tuffy, and I personally know that if you buy a Tuffy you will be thrilled with your purchase.

Edited by nwild 12/30/2008 10:52 AM
esoxfly
Posted 12/30/2008 1:09 PM (#352192 - in reply to #352151)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Kodiak, AK
jonnysled - 12/30/2008 10:20 AM
one comment on the "big company response" ... i bought my ranger in 2003 and had a setup issue that i had difficulty working out with my dealer..


Just curious Jon, what was that issue?

And I'm with bn, I didn't drop $50k or even $30k on my Ranger from Sled, but danged if it ain't a dream come true, and just what little conversation I've had with Ranger concerning getting some cosmetic fit and finish parts, they've been awesome. They certainly don't carry themselves as a large company. Someday, perish the thought, if the time comes when it's time for a new boat...it'll be a Ranger, and their customer service is half the reason.
jonnysled
Posted 12/30/2008 1:36 PM (#352196 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: minocqua, wi.
i struggled with an electrical gremlin the first season i owned the boat that essentially drained the cranking battery down to nothing between uses (very short time) and the dealer although they tried just couldn't get to the bottom of it ... they'd check batteries, give me new ones and look at me funny like i was doing something wrong.

it wound up being a short and a faulty main breaker switch and ranger helped me to solve the problem ... it was frustrating for the dealer and for me trying to work through something that had me constantly bringing it back and expecting my dealer to help me through it to find the cause ... the dealer threw their hands up thinking it was how i was using the boat so i went straight to ranger and their people took me through it from front to finish never overlooking the smallest detail and set my mind at ease by helping me to find the solution. once fixed it was a done deal basically a bad part and a mistake in factory installation ... problem solved.

it was also the dealer who mounted the original onboard charger in the sump for it to fry ... that's when i gutted the whole system and put in the 4-banker and batteries under the console and upgraded the whole system with the pro-mariner and the new installation location ... batteries + breakers + chargers + sump location = stupid

when stuff like this happens and you're left without confidence it can drive you nuts! you buy new nice boats so that stuff doesn't go wrong ... in this case i think the dealer wanted to help me but essentially gave up as the problem and i got frustrating ... going straight to ranger and finding the source and a solution gave me the confidence and it was a done deal from there.

lesson i learned is to look closely at where, how and why crap is mounted and tear it out and do it over again if it looks like it won't hold up to how you'll use it. look at any new boat purchase closely for all this stuff ... it shocks me that some dealers rig the way they do ...
jonnysled
Posted 12/30/2008 1:47 PM (#352201 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: minocqua, wi.
so .. now i own a 1995 tuffy esox magnum and it's in crazy good condition (urghhh ... ummm it does have a black motor though) and i want to upgrade seats, steering and had a few things that i wanted help for rigging etc... on. i spent some time with a guy associated with Tuffy and voila ... solutions, ideas and looking forward to having it all put together for next season.

it brings it back to the best advice you've already been given which is to look very closely at what you want out of a boat ... go drive a few of what you are considering and the answer will come to you. you're considering two very nice rigs for sure!
esoxfly
Posted 12/30/2008 5:15 PM (#352213 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Kodiak, AK
Oh yeah, I 'member you telling me about that battery issue Jon. Didn't know they mounted the charger in the sump! Doh!

Sorry about the black motor. Me and the blue motor are getting along just fine!
reef hawg
Posted 12/30/2008 5:16 PM (#352214 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


I am sure the original poster doesn't care which boat builder got into the deep V game first. Means nothing at all. Heck, GMC has been making full sized pickups for almost 100 years, Toyota on the other hand, about 28 months. I recently chose Tundra based on features I wanted that I felt were superior to those of the other similarily sized pickups. It pulls my Ranger around nicely, a boat which , also subsequently had more quality features that I desired than similarily sized boats when I bought it used. Make your own choice, and take your time in doing so. Worst thing you can do is put the blinders on and be brand loyal to a fault. Things I buy, from clothing on up, are painstakingly shopped for, with desired features from the different 'brands' compared, then price. As mentioned above, it is easier if you know what types of features you want before going in, if possible.



Schuler
Posted 12/30/2008 5:39 PM (#352218 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Davenport, IA
There is no such thing as a better boat. Why is there hundreds of boat companies? Because people have different preferences. Take a look at both and test drive them if you can.
esoxfly
Posted 12/30/2008 7:28 PM (#352230 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Kodiak, AK
Well I think there are "better" boats. My boat is better for big water than would be a 16' Lund, or even 17' glass boat. I think it'd be correct to say there is no "perfect" boat. Every boat will be made up of compromises, and will shine in one setting and not be ideal for another. My boat rocks in big open water, but most bass guys would turn their noses up at it for lack of storage, not enough carpeted deck space, and the fact that it won't do 55. I love it for the room, the fishability, visibility, the "brute" nature of it and awesome ride on rough water.
ESOX Maniac
Posted 12/30/2008 9:22 PM (#352245 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin
Guy's - No boat company can stay in business long if they are not satisfying their customers by providing great customer service. muskie boys - It's great you are asking for advice in an open forum (with some valid restrictions - which I have also violated and been admonished for - it was deserved) . But, muskie fisherman are very seldom considered as unopinionated.

The reality is that you are the one who has to be happy with your choice, i.e., it's like picking a girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband. The wrong choice is not pretty! So its much better to do your research- be impartial to race/brand. Set down and think about what you want and if you are willing to spend the money needed to get what you want.

If you want to compare them virtually side by side - go to one of the muskie show's. I'm pretty certain fine example's of both Tuffy and Ranger muskie fishing platform's will be available for your perusal.

Have fun!

Al
nwild
Posted 12/31/2008 8:51 AM (#352281 - in reply to #352214)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain
reef hawg - 12/30/2008 5:16 PM

Things I buy, from clothing on up, are painstakingly shopped for, with desired features from the different 'brands' compared, then price.





Reefer, I am incredibly curious, how long was the shop and compare before you finally pulled the trigger on that Pabst hat?
sworrall
Posted 12/31/2008 8:56 AM (#352284 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Bet I know that one....years.
rh
Posted 12/31/2008 10:11 AM (#352299 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


Why do you always lash out at me Norm(sniffle sniffle)? I handled the Schlitz cap several times before the trigger was pulled, thanks. The Hams lid had the little winter scene that revolved around on it and had me at first glance too. 9 volt purchases would have killed me. So I saved enough zip tabs required for mine, and yes, it took years. Reminds me, anyone remember those 70's vintage winter knit hats that had the actual aluminum cans flattened in the sides of them like dad had when I was a wee lad. Would love to find one. Might improve cell phone reception.
moreyes
Posted 12/31/2008 10:13 AM (#352300 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




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Sneaking over from the EYE side (bait for you guys), I bought a Tuffy 1890. My reason's for buying a Tuffy where not influenced by any sort of sponsorship bought out of pocket. I did allot of research talked with folks and I could not find a unhappy Tuffy owner, I am sure the same can be said for Ranger Boats and their owners. I am engineer by trade and have a good understanding how things are made and should work. I was going to by another tin boat, but after taking a peak at Tuffy, I found that as far as price goes they are extremely competitive on a apples to apples comparison.

I got to go and kick the tires on one, poked around it, checked out the wiring, structure, layout fit and finish they where excellent. I then talked to Steve W and got to take one for a test ride, I was sold. And I bought one. I am extremely pleased with it, ride, fishabilty performance is outstanding.

I got to ride in a 619 and it is a nice boat, but the 1890 rode a bit better, was faster with a smaller HP engine and was less coin, now granted Ranger does have allot custom features dash, gauges, lot more chrome doo dads, and that all adds to price of the boat.

Plus I like the fact they where built locally, not everyone has one. Plus it looks cool:), and anytime I had question Steve W and Steve B have always gottn back to me, this will be my third year in this boat and it has been flawless.

Shep
Posted 12/31/2008 8:16 PM (#352409 - in reply to #352300)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





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Nowhere did I say one boat was better than the other. I said that the Tuffy was a better value to me. And I did notice that as soon as the myth that the Ranger was fast er than the Tuffy was discredited, Bob deleted his claims of such.

Look, I've been in a lot of Rangers. They are built well, and have a lot of flashy stuff incloded. Stuff that costs extra, and I don't need or want. Yes, those compartments in the rear can hold alot od stuff, but they take up floor space, and are hard on the knees when in big waves. I was in a brand new 06 620 that took waves over the bow in 2 foot waves, just sitting there. As a result, the front storage compartments filled with water. I've seen plenty of guys bailing out their new 620 compartments after coming in from rough water. Never happens in my Tuffy.

As for not being in the same class? I already conceded that Tuffy is not in the same price class as a Ranger.There's no difference in the trailers, really. But the jack placement on the Rangers trailer is not very well thought out.
cjrich
Posted 1/2/2009 7:39 PM (#352724 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





Posts: 551


Location: Columbus, Georgia
This has been a very interesting thread, to say the least.

I own a Crestliner, and while I have few complaints that can be directed toward the manufacturer ... I can (in retrospect) identify a number of things that should have been done this-way-or-that by the dealer that originally rigged the boat for me.

I believe some good advice when purchasing a new boat (and some of the guys have already suggested this in one way or another) is to get to know that boat you want to buy, and make sure that you have backtracked and changed your mind about rigging at least a couple of times before your purchase.

Yes, of course some things can be changed once you have taken possession of the boat ... but it sure saves a lot of time and trouble if you REALLY know what you want and decide if the dealer can rig the boat the way that YOU want.

I am certain that there are many, many ways the boat can be rigged, but the buyer is the one that has to live with such designs.

I hear Tuffy's are a great value for the dollar, but purchasing a new one without a dealer within 400+ miles (of me) seems somewhat of a risk. The "value" of that sale price must be weighed against the feasibility of having the boat serviced in case of emergency and necessity.

Craig

Edited by cjrich 1/2/2009 7:47 PM
sworrall
Posted 1/2/2009 7:58 PM (#352730 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





Posts: 32879


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Cjrich,
Tuffy intentionally is a regional company. Tuffy markets their product to a targeted 6 state area, focuses on three, and doesn't look to expand beyond that. When things are healthy in the Marine economy, Tuffy usually sells out their build potential in the area they serve directly, and has no desire to expand production. That said, there's lots of Tuffy boats across the country, from California to Florida. I've yet to see an owner who was unable to acquire service, as Tuffy can authorize a local service center to perform any work needed.
cjrich
Posted 1/2/2009 8:40 PM (#352747 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





Posts: 551


Location: Columbus, Georgia
Thanks Steve.
That is important information to know.
Quite frankly, I'd rather be living in Wisconsin (in the middle of Tuffy country) right now anyway.
Craig

sworrall
Posted 1/2/2009 9:08 PM (#352754 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





Posts: 32879


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I don't know about that' it's below zero out there right now...
cjrich
Posted 1/2/2009 10:00 PM (#352763 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





Posts: 551


Location: Columbus, Georgia
Touche!

Well, I didn't exactly mean at this hour ...

Edited by cjrich 1/2/2009 10:01 PM
Justin Gaiche
Posted 1/2/2009 10:08 PM (#352766 - in reply to #352213)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




Posts: 355


Location: Wausau, Wisconsin
I REALLY enjoy catching fish in both of them...isn't that what it is about??? There is really no room for arguing on this subject. Chevy, Ford, buy what you like. Both are excellent, excellent boats. I have spent a lot of time in both and in very rough water. Both were dry and comfortable. There are a lot of people on this site who would probably be more than happy to give you a ride, that would be my suggestion. There is certainly a large price difference and speed difference. If you live in the north, there is certainly a piece of mind having Tuffy in your back yard and access and people like Steve just a click away.
saint1
Posted 1/3/2009 4:04 PM (#352867 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




Posts: 332


Location: Neenah, WI
I have had the pleasure of fishing out of a Tuffy 1890 ,1760 ,x190, and a 1760 Tiller, all great fishing rigs, With that being said I wanted to tour the tuffy boat factory before I buy my next rig and was told to drive down anytime and they would show me their facility. I work in manufacturing for a living and thought that was very cool.

Now Rangers - I own a (95' 690) great boat and I love it, I called down to Ranger because I wanted a front deck extension, I provided them with the Serial # and they gave me a price right away , they will build it and was actually cheaper than a new deck extension for a new rig. It also featured gull wing storage for 12 mag plano's (totally awesome)
For a company to build something 13 years after it was built and 11 years after the boat model is out of production is AMAZING!!

With all that being said it really comes down to price and what you are doing with the boat. If you are looking to buy a boat and keep it for 15 years or longer you really need to look at all boats that are comparable and make a informed decision.

I don't think you can go wrong with Ranger or Tuffy as long as you consider what you really want ahead of time.

Hook'em Hard
SAINT 1

Edited by saint1 1/3/2009 4:06 PM
4amuskie
Posted 1/3/2009 4:18 PM (#352872 - in reply to #352867)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




Speed is not an issue, and I dont think it really should be. Contact Eric Olsen and ask him the speed of his 620 Ranger with a Evinrude 250HO. I'm sure it was documented over 70mph, and that aint a modified rig and he is not a racer.
Justin Gaiche
Posted 1/4/2009 6:32 AM (#352917 - in reply to #352872)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




Posts: 355


Location: Wausau, Wisconsin
Aren't most all competitive tournament fishermen racers? Who doesn't want to get to the spot first?

Edited by 8inchcrank 1/4/2009 6:33 AM
moreyes
Posted 1/4/2009 6:37 AM (#352919 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




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I forgot to comment on the storage thing, I must say the storage in my 1890 is exceptional, I carry around probably to much stuff and I have room for it all, you can fit 15+ rods in this thing, and the stoage is DRY, last year I got caught in a rain storm of storms, I bet I had 2" of water on the foor it would not drain fast enough, I was in a bad part of the lake with no easy access to the cabin, so I rode it out thank goodness for Gore Tex, you know what not a drop of water in the storage compartments.

I actually had the sherriff stop be the ramp and tell there where tornados heading are way, that would have tested the kevlar reinforced keel;-)

To sum it up it is as they say a Fishing First boat.
mseybert
Posted 1/4/2009 7:01 AM (#352920 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060





Posts: 443


Location: Indiana
Maybe I am in the minority, or just lucky but I have had no issues with the compartments in my 620 getting wet. It doesn't happen in the rain. And does not take waves over the bow like many say the 620s do.

I admit that I haven't been out in seas much over 2' though (we just don't have the larger lakes here), but I haven't been anywhere close to getting wet feet.
Madmanmusky
Posted 1/4/2009 10:26 AM (#352938 - in reply to #352920)
Subject: Re: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060




Posts: 344


Location: Musky Country
mseybert - 1/4/2009 7:01 AM

Maybe I am in the minority, or just lucky but I have had no issues with the compartments in my 620 getting wet. It doesn't happen in the rain. And does not take waves over the bow like many say the 620s do.

I admit that I haven't been out in seas much over 2' though (we just don't have the larger lakes here), but I haven't been anywhere close to getting wet feet.



I wonder the same thing we have a 07 620 and the compartments stay completly dry and its rare to take waves over the front and We fish some pretty big water.
SHAWANO WESTSHORE
Posted 1/4/2009 1:19 PM (#352975 - in reply to #351934)
Subject: RE: 620 ranger vs. Tuffy 2060


I'm on my 6th Ranger and no complaints have went through 4 new 620 and no complaints.