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Location: Rhinelander. | How many 57 inchers do we know of that have been caught?I'll let you you know wh I ask this after I I make a visit to one of my customers homes. Just wondering how many truely confirmed 57's have been caught.
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| Never mind.
Am I the only one that doesn't know or even have a clue 
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Location: Land of the Musky | I know two guys personally that have one each (both in MN lakes). I also have a customer/guide up on Georgian Bay that has a few 57" under his belt. To bad they were not with one of my lures! lol He has also told me he has seen some near or over 60". I have a hard enough time telling if they are 30" or 40" in the water  |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | A few, I'd wager. But darned few like Mr. MacNair's. |
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| a very rare occurence. even in canada. |
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| I know of a 56.5"for sure and have seen a hand full over that. |
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| I would say in some places it is probably bi-weekly..... |
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Location: Rhinelander. | I am with you and really do not have a clue. I think its a pretty rare fish.. Thats why I was surprised when a customer told me he has one on the wall. Said he caught it 1988 on planting ground lake on the 3 lakes chain. He remembers it very clearly inspite of his age. Caught it on a mudpuppy. I am going to stop at his houe and get a photo of him with it. It amazes me that even in 88 one could catch a fish like that and you'd not hear about it.. When I get the pictures I'll post it. I think we all like seeing 57's
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Location: University of Hartford | I am not sure about that, I know that in some lakes there is a "good" chance of seeing one like for instance Lac seul, Georgian Bay, the St. Lawrence and LOTW and Eagle, and Minnesota. I have seen one that I know was larger than 56. because it so much larger than my PB. But until they are caught and accurately measured they are just memories and stories, |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Jamie from Custom Fish has said he has seen SILENT GIANTS every year doing life size prints of fish, that NEVER make it to the Forums.
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| BenR - 12/20/2008 6:34 AM
I would say in some places it is probably bi-weekly.....
Agreed. And you'll never hear about them... |
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| Are you talking "real" 57's", measured on a bump board for an accurate measurement, or the number of 57's that were measured with a loose tape, my making marks in the boat and measuring it later, etc..?
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Thank you guest, because of people like you, is Y they are called SILENT GIANTS. |
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| Guest - 12/20/2008 8:22 AM
Are you talking "real" 57's", measured on a bump board for an accurate measurement, or the number of 57's that were measured with a loose tape, my making marks in the boat and measuring it later, etc..?
Oh yes that marking thing! I think I have caught a couple of those! I am pretty sure my marks are accurate, of course my memory might have faded as to which fish went with which set of marks and where I started measuring from, but the other day I looked at a couple scratches in my boat and BY DAWG, they were 57.5" apart. Heckuva fish.
Seriously, why not ask some of these guides that are on the water day after day how frequently they have encountered that size fish. I'm thinking Doug Johnson could give a lot of fisherman some insight into how rare a 57" fish might be, even in the top quality waters available. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | The three guys I know of have never posted on any chat boards. Pictures of all three fish have made it to various chat boards thoguh. They just seem to enjoy fishing and catching musky and pike. I know two of them will never bother posting pictures of their fish on boards to share becasue of comments like teh "Guest". Again, they are just happy to be alive and fish for musky and pike.
You gotta watch out for those silent guys |
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | All fishermen are liars, except you and me, and some times I wonder about you! |
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Location: Brookfield, WI | Hundreds. Or less. Depends on the manner in which they are caught. Remember, there is true and adjusted claimable length. Apply your percentages people. Lets keep things consistent.
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | People would not believe it if they knew how many fish are caught and released that big and bigger every year. There was a 60 plus incher caught and released weeks after I caught my 57. That fish was not on the internet either. Yes they are caught and not ever talked about. I never posted a picture of mine or told the story on line for over five years out of respect for the "Boys" out East.
The people who catch them know what they caught, the internet only hurts them and the guides who take them. The guides and fishermen who target these monsters do not need the hype. Word of mouth is how great guides keep their dance cards full.
Anyone who is looking for that special fish should look into getting on thses "special waters" that were listed before in a post. We all know the trophy waters that hold monster fish. Now you got to get there at the rite time and put your time in. It's not easy most of the time and it's not a numbers game. Your fishing for one fish a day sometimes.
Trophy hunters are a different breed as are the guides who consistantly put huge fish in their boat. Getting to fish with these people is a privilege. Getting a time slot at trophy time is almost impossible. Most are booked from years ago and those clients will not give it up. You just have to get lucky and work your way into prime time on prime waters.
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Location: thunder bay | i've personaly seen 10 fish of that size or bigger in the last three years and boated one of them. i'm sure there's many of them noone hears about.
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| 57" is really big fish.. i wld love to see more pictures of them but too bad some people r moron and or jealous of them.. in my books any fish over 55" are the great catch of their lifetime.. if that 57" smashed my bait during figure 8 i wld shat my pant n have a heart attack at young age! |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Well, let's put it this way... There's only 3 57's, 1 58.25, 1 58.5, and 1 60 in the Muskies Inc. records from 2002-present. |
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Location: Rhinelander. | Ty for that info jim. I am talking about a fish from 1988. They did not use bump boards back them. I do not know how it was measured. I just know he told me it was 57 and he got it mounted. Now I don't care if it was this year or 1988 its still a big fish and he has it to prove it. We'll see when I get to his house. I brought up the question because because I just feel its a rare fish, very rare to catch one that size. For all these 57's seen!!!!!!!!!!!! Untill they are in the boat and measured it means nothing. Follows don't count for beans.
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| torpe have caught a 57 and a 58,whit something like 10 cast |
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| There are at least 3 57+ fish in Muskiefirsts big fish pics from 2008 alone. They aren't common, but are more common than one may think. |
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| Again, legit 57's on a bump board, or with a tape or other unaccurate measuring device?
57 incher measured like Bob M and a legit 57 on a bump board is completely different. Measuring one with a sewing tape at 57 is completely different that a 57 on a bump board.
There is only one way to get a real, true, legit measurement. |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Pfieff-- I'd love to know what you find out. Are you actually bringing a bumpboard there to lay the mount on? It would be interesting to do that, then put a flexible sewing tape on it. I know since it's stiff it would probably read a little less on a bumpboard, but still would be interesting to see. |
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Location: Columbus, Georgia | If I caught a 57" (or larger) Musky, I surely would not want to keep that a secret. |
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Location: Rhinelander. | I think that I can get a good measurement with a metal rule. So no I won't take a bumpboard as you asked. The fish will have a bend in it I'm sure so a bumpboard be useless. I'll do the best I can and thats all I can do.
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Location: The desert | Does the amount of 57 inch fish caught change: how you fish, where you fish, what you throw, how you attack a lake, how you enjoy your fishing experience etc?
I didnt think so. |
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| Lots of people limit others ability based on their own success..some pretty small worlds some folks live in.... |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I only know of one body of water that puts out true 57+ fish every single year. And there may be a couple more capable but not on a yearly bases. |
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| We'll let's just say that 57" fish are caught every single year! FACT! I know of about 25 + 57"ers and i've seen the pictures of everyone of them! They don't make it to these message boards for a reason! The people that catch them, don't need to post the pictures on here to feel good about themselves and beat there chests. They simple enjoy the moment with the select group of guys year in and year out! All I can say is that i've been BLESSED to be able to enjoy every single one of them! Peace out! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I've been reading the last post every day trying to find a response that doesn't sound snotty. So far, I've failed, and I'm a wordy son of a gun.
Richard, I agree, not too many places that kick 'em out regularly. By the way, Happy Holidays! |
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| just curious but when did 57 become a magic #? seems since more big fish are getting caught fish like 48''s aren't considered big anymore. |
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Location: The desert | Apparently Pineview reservoir here in Utah is home to more 60 inchers than you could shake a stick at, and they feed on 70 inch carp. |
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| Bigfishstud - 12/22/2008 12:46 AM
We'll let's just say that 57" fish are caught every single year! FACT! I know of about 25 + 57"ers and i've seen the pictures of everyone of them! They don't make it to these message boards for a reason! The people that catch them, don't need to post the pictures on here to feel good about themselves and beat there chests. They simple enjoy the moment with the select group of guys year in and year out! All I can say is that i've been BLESSED to be able to enjoy every single one of them! Peace out!
so let me get this straight...
The guys who catch 57" fish every year, they don't need to come here and beat their chests about it, right?
[...] "FACT! I know of about 25 + 57"ers and i've seen the pictures of everyone of them!" [...]
You've seen pictures. And you're bragging about it... here.
The irony is astounding.
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | I don't think he was bragging just stating a fact to answer the original post. Lots of lookers on this site. Some may reply to a post and most just keep on looking. Getting slammed or questioned is only going to keep them from posting more.
You never know who adds info here. That post could have been from a guy who guides clients to these monsters. He is in the LOOP for sure.
I believe that "We'll let's just say that 57" fish are caught every single year! FACT!"
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| lol you call a 57 big huh?!! my biggest is 42  lol |
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| .....so did we ever get a picture and a confirmation on this one, Don?
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Location: Cave Run Lake KY. | Don. In Larry Ramsell's 1997 ( A Compendium of Musky Angling History ) He lists 93 muskies in his all time 50-pound Club. In order for a 57" musky to be 50# it has to be around 26.5" in girth . Therefore most 57" fish whould make the 50# Club. Im sure that in the 12 years sence than quite a few 50#ers have been released. I know of and have seen two such fish taken in the spring from the Sioux Narrows area, these fish were taken back to Ohio and mounted and are not talked about only for private display. There is no way to keep track of fish like these as no one will say wear they were caught. I only know of these fish because I was there when they were caught and got to see them. Im sure that in the Georgian bay erea there are 57" fish caught and kept the week before the season. No one is going to say to much. I know of Muskie Inc. menbers that don't enter big fish in the members only contest because they have to say where they where caught. Lake X - - Good Luck my friend Good Luck. Marv. |
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Location: NW WI | cjrich - 12/20/2008 9:04 PM
If I caught a 57" (or larger) Musky, I surely would not want to keep that a secret.
If I caught a 57" or bigger I COULDN'T keep it a secret! Get a couple cocktails in me and I'd turn into a blubbering fool....wait...maybe it wouldn't even take one!  |
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| ChinWhiskers - 6/20/2009 11:14 AM
...I know of and have seen two such fish taken in the spring from the Sioux Narrows area, these fish were taken back to Ohio and mounted and are not talked about only for private display. There is no way to keep track of fish like these as no one will say wear they were caught. I only know of these fish because I was there when they were caught and got to see them. Im sure that in the Georgian bay erea there are 57" fish caught and kept the week before the season. No one is going to say to much... Marv.
If they we indeed taken in "the spring from the Sioux Narrows area" and Gbay "caught and kept the week before the season" maybe standing up for what is right and turning in poachers would be the first step. Something to consider in helping our neighbors to the north don't you think?
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Location: Cave Run Lake KY. | I was refering to 57'ers being caught over the years. In the Sioux Nerrows's area the two fish were caught on opening week, two years apart. The Georgian Bay fish were caught on the Friday before the season and kept over night to be entered in a local contest the next day. These are fish that don't show up on fish lists. As for turning in poachers, Ill leave that to someone who doesn't whant to get invited back to to fish or hunt on lake X or private land. It just might be our neighbors to the north don't want our help. ( changes in latitude changes in attitude ) |
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Location: Williamstown, WV | I know of one 58 I believe that a friend of mine caught. He got a replica and it's a beautiful fish. Hanging over his TV. Maybe if he reads this he'll post a picture.
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Location: Wishin I Was Fishin' | so was it 57"?
did you get a picture Don? |
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| I know of six 57"or longer from this year alone,via the loop. Every year there are a few caught,mostly out East and are never talked about.Why they are not talked about,just look at the number of boats now going to the 40 Acre Shoals!
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http://www.1000islandsfishing.com/muskie.htm
I would say "plenty". I would love to go with this guy and video troll.....can you imagine a live strike from one of these beasts? |
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Location: Wausau | Whatever happened to the Planting Ground 57" picture.
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Location: Duluth MN | Don Pfeiffer - 12/20/2008 10:58 PM
I think that I can get a good measurement with a metal rule. So no I won't take a bumpboard as you asked. The fish will have a bend in it I'm sure so a bumpboard be useless. I'll do the best I can and thats all I can do.
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Don, did you ever get that picture or measurement? |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | st. lawrence river, thousand islands.. Rich clarke :p
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Yes, that fellow sure knows how to find big fish. Consistently. I've never met the man, but I certainly respect his catches.
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57's how many