At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?
muskyhunter24
Posted 11/9/2008 11:01 AM (#344461)
Subject: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?





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Well its that time of year again (late fall), and this is the first year I have really fishing at all in November, I was wondering if there is a water temp in which I should stop using braid and possibly switch to mono or just stop fishing period (other then ice up). I have heard the horror stories of peoples line freezing and then casting and bye bye goes there lure and leader cause the line froze and broke.
whit65
Posted 11/9/2008 11:10 AM (#344462 - in reply to #344461)
Subject: RE: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?




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That doesn't make sense in my opinion. I'm no scientist, rocket or otherwise, but i'd guess that the anecdotes you've heard about line snapping in cold weather was due to abrasion of ice, etc. It'd have to be too cold for us to be out there for superline to freeze so hard that it would snap. It's not made of a material that would be that brittle upon freezing, in my opinion. I've fished superline through the ice for walleyes and crappie when the weather was 10 below, and this was much thinner line than we use for muskies. Water in/on the line freezes, and line becomes stiff as a result, but otherwise no diifference in durability, as evidenced by my bringing an 18lb channel cat up with 8lb spiderwire.

W
Medford Fisher
Posted 11/9/2008 11:41 AM (#344463 - in reply to #344461)
Subject: Re: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?




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Location: Medford, WI
hunter24,

I've snapped my line three times ever musky fishing; all have been in late November. Whether this resulted from it being so cold outside, I'm not sure, but it sure seems like that would have something to do with it. One way or the other, if you're in Minn., Wisconsin, Canada, or anyplace that is/will be freezing, pretty soon your line will be freezing on your spool and you will have to blow out the ice that forms on your reel and in your guides. Heavy mono line is water resistant and will not soak up the water like braided line does. If anyone has any advice on a "good" late-season line that doesn't freeze everything up, please post on here.

Thanks for bringing this topic up, Jake
RyanJoz
Posted 11/9/2008 12:49 PM (#344465 - in reply to #344463)
Subject: Re: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?




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Location: Mt. Zion, IL
-273 degrees Celsius. I fish all winter long and have never snapped braid.
muskyhunter24
Posted 11/9/2008 1:59 PM (#344473 - in reply to #344465)
Subject: Re: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?





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RyanJoz - 11/9/2008 12:49 PM

-273 degrees Celsius. I fish all winter long and have never snapped braid.


Yeah using braid on a tip up vs casting 10+ oz baits doesn't even compare to each other.
RyanJoz
Posted 11/9/2008 3:19 PM (#344481 - in reply to #344473)
Subject: Re: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?




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I should clarify......I musky fish and throw 8-10 oz swimbaits all winter long on 80 and 130 lb braid and have never snapped it.
muskyhunter24
Posted 11/9/2008 3:22 PM (#344483 - in reply to #344481)
Subject: Re: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?





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RyanJoz - 11/9/2008 3:19 PM

I should clarify......I musky fish and throw 8-10 oz swimbaits all winter long on 80 and 130 lb braid and have never snapped it.


Where are you fishing?
shaley
Posted 11/9/2008 5:08 PM (#344493 - in reply to #344483)
Subject: Re: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?





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Location: Iowa Great Lakes
Freezing up is alot harder on reels than line, we broke gears in 2 yesterday due to freezing up. Never have had problems with line getting cold and breaking and I'll fish till I can no longer launch the boat.
RyanJoz
Posted 11/9/2008 5:34 PM (#344498 - in reply to #344493)
Subject: Re: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?




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muskyhunter24 - 11/9/2008 3:22 PM

RyanJoz - 11/9/2008 3:19 PM

I should clarify......I musky fish and throw 8-10 oz swimbaits all winter long on 80 and 130 lb braid and have never snapped it.


Where are you fishing?


Central IL. I don't stop fishing when the temps are below freezing. Last year I was out in the freezing rain/sleet and temps were 15 degrees.

Edited by RyanJoz 11/9/2008 5:36 PM
shaley
Posted 11/9/2008 6:02 PM (#344505 - in reply to #344461)
Subject: RE: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?





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Location: Iowa Great Lakes
Whats wrong with 80 Power Pro? Been using it for years without a problem, even on the big plastics. I have broke it yes but also seen 100# broke and most times were user error such as a professional over run or my favorite the line wraped around the tip.
RiverMan
Posted 11/9/2008 6:45 PM (#344508 - in reply to #344461)
Subject: Re: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?




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Location: Oregon
I run #30 PowerPro for steelhead all winter here in Oregon and have never noticed any difference in strength. I don't usually fish if it is freaky cold but we are often out with the temps in the 20's.

RM
sorenson
Posted 11/9/2008 7:22 PM (#344517 - in reply to #344508)
Subject: Re: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?





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I personally haven't had any problems casting with braids on a baitcaster in cold weather. It does carry more water than mono, but I think the very act of casting keeps the line from freezing to the spool. Ice buildup on rod guides and levelwind systems seem to be much more of a problem than the line itself freezing. If the reel builds up enough ice, it will hinder the levelwind, sometimes to the point of sudden stoppage in mid-cast, and you could then stand a chance of snapping the line at a pre-existing weakpoint. I don't really believe that the cold in and of itself will weaken the line.

Now, that being said, I have had enough problems with it on spinning gear while ice fishing that, unless I'm in a shack, I have given up on it totally and gone to mono. In those situations where you are just vertical jigging, etc., it carries enough water that it certainly will freeze to itself on the spool during periods of inactivity thereby rendering even the best of drags inoperable.

S.
reelman
Posted 11/9/2008 7:28 PM (#344519 - in reply to #344461)
Subject: Re: At what water temp should you stop using braid at the risk of it freezing and snapping?




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If you are concerned about line freezing up I would recommend a line such as Stealth that is Teflon impregnated. It soaks up much less line than a wax coated line especially after the wax wears off after the first hour or so.