Color or Action
feedtheworm
Posted 10/26/2008 9:02 PM (#342512)
Subject: Color or Action





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A response to an earlier conversation questioned what was really important in a Muskie lure. Is it the color, pattern, action, etc.?

   I'm no expert but I think everything plays a part at certain times. What seems most important to me (in my limited experience) is the action. 

 

   One example is the Dunwright  Top Dancer. I picked one up at Thorne Bros this past spring and holy crap did that thing provoke strikes. Somehow I lost that lure so I bought a bunch more on closeout at Gander Mountain. The action of those lures was slightly different and they didn't catch any fish. They didn't even get strikes. The pattern and colors were identical yet they didn't produce #*#*.

   I contacted Dan at Dunwright and evidently the manufacturing had been outscourced for some time. They were not happy with the results and took the manufacturing back in house. Dan sent me his current version that was produced in house and I started catching fish again (on a different color and pattern). Dan & Dunwright tackle were very good to deal with and I can highly reccomend them. 

 

    My second example is a lure that was made by Lu Nemanius. It's a surface, walk the dog style lure that was made for salt water striper, etc. It was (with out a doubt) my favorite lure of this season. Even in conditions that would generally require a drastically different color scheme, it provoked viscious strikes and some of my biggest Muskies for the season. 

    Although I only used the lure for this current season, it looks like a relic from the 1930's. The paint is all but gone, the wood is chewed up beyond recognition from hook rash & Muskie teeth, and the rear screw eye was ripped out on my last fish. It looks nothing like it did at the beginning of the season but it continues to provoke more strikes than the rest of my arsenol.

 

    I'm very curious to know what others think about this subject. Even small changes like the hook size seem to make a difference to me.

 

 

               Johnny 

Tackle Industries
Posted 10/26/2008 9:09 PM (#342515 - in reply to #342512)
Subject: Re: Color or Action





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Location: Land of the Musky
From waht I have heard from guys who know how to fish (not me LOL) its all action, vibration, movments, profile/size, etc. Color is a distant second. Like I tell my wife, colors catch customers and that is why I have almost 1000 SKUs now. I do think color has its place and time but I think the action and shape play a much bigger role.
JMO
James
matt hansen
Posted 10/26/2008 10:58 PM (#342535 - in reply to #342512)
Subject: RE: Color or Action


hey did the second glider tend to run higher than the first
feedtheworm
Posted 10/26/2008 11:46 PM (#342538 - in reply to #342535)
Subject: RE: Color or Action





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matt hansen - 10/26/2008 10:58 PM

hey did the second glider tend to run higher than the first


If you're asking me, I'm not sure exactly what you mean. None of the lures I mentioned are gliders. The Top Dancer I suppose is a little closer to a glider than Lu's lures.
Let me know and I'll do my best to answer you.


Johnny


The Nate
Posted 10/26/2008 11:49 PM (#342539 - in reply to #342512)
Subject: Re: Color or Action





Definitely action, then profile comes in a close second...............color is waaaaaaaaaaaaay down the road imo
matt hansen
Posted 10/28/2008 1:34 AM (#342742 - in reply to #342512)
Subject: RE: Color or Action


sorry i read it wrong and thought you where talking about the dancer
woodieb8
Posted 10/28/2008 6:22 AM (#342745 - in reply to #342512)
Subject: Re: Color or Action




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color then action. depending where the lure is in the water column. on st clair color is greatly sought after. when the bites hot. if you aint got it your s./.[ outa luck
JRedig
Posted 10/28/2008 8:49 AM (#342758 - in reply to #342512)
Subject: Re: Color or Action




Location: Twin Cities
Both.
fatfingers
Posted 10/28/2008 9:09 AM (#342764 - in reply to #342512)
Subject: RE: Color or Action




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I think action is what gets the attention and color triggers the actual strike. It can be interesting to observe how they'll only follow one color and smash another at times.

I also think that muskie color preferences vary from lake to lake and river to river. Sometimes the preferences from one body to another can vary widely.

muskydope
Posted 11/2/2008 4:31 PM (#343450 - in reply to #342764)
Subject: RE: Color or Action





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Location: davis,IL
There was an article in Musky Hunter a couple years back that took a group of various colored lures and offered pictures of these lures viewed through different color filters. They used red,green, and blue filters to simulate how lures may appear in stained, algae filled, and clear water. It was not a real surprise that black was the color that remained basically unchanged by the different filters. Other colors stood out with one filter and all but disappeared with another, as to how accurately this recreates the real world, who knows, but it was interesting.
Mauser
Posted 11/5/2008 10:24 AM (#343879 - in reply to #342512)
Subject: Re: Color or Action




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Location: Southern W.Va.
Even lures that made on the same mold will have different results. Went to canada in '84 bass and walleye fishing. Had 2 Rebel Wee "R" s , same size and pattern { natural Crappie on each lure} . One caught fish like crazy and the other you couldn't buy a bite on. Don't know what the difference was but there sure was something about that one that turned fish on.
I think that color is sometimes the main factor in getting action. When we were fishing the Spring Bay outing in July on Lake Vermillion in Minn. ,orange baits were the only thing we could move fish on . It didn't matter what you threw, if it didn't have a lot of orange then we didn't get any action at all. Maybe it was just me but for some reason that was the "hot" color for that trip. Moved fish on bucktails, crankbaits and jerkbaits, all with orange as the major color on each lure.

Mauser
RiverMan
Posted 11/5/2008 9:27 PM (#343977 - in reply to #342512)
Subject: Re: Color or Action




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Location: Oregon
Without question it is action, but there are certain places, certain species, certain times, etc., in which color is critical.

Jed V.
brewcrew
Posted 11/6/2008 9:27 PM (#344130 - in reply to #342512)
Subject: Re: Color or Action





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Action is first but color matters if it helps the fish see the bait