Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?
muskyhunter24
Posted 10/26/2008 10:10 AM (#342396)
Subject: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





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Location: Madison WI
I just wanted to see how many of you had luck on the dbl 10's on the madison chain so far for 2008. I am curious to see if the #'s are dramatically lower then what they were last year.
PredLuR
Posted 10/26/2008 10:30 AM (#342399 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





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Location: Madison, WI
Havent even seen a fish follow Double 10's this year...havent been out a ton though, maybe 30 hours total between Wingra and Monona, we have caught and moved fish on pretty much every single other type of bait throughout the season.
lambeau
Posted 10/26/2008 10:41 AM (#342401 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?


from Muskies Inc.
fish larger than 45".

Waubesa:
2006: 12 (2 caught on double-10s)
2007: 10 (0 caught on d10s, 1 caught on "bucktail", 1 caught on Figure 8 "spinner")
2008: 6 (2 on double-10s, 1 on a Flasher)

Monona:
2006: 8 (0 caught on double-10s, 2 caught on "bucktails")
2007: 6 (2 caught on double-10s, 1 caught on "bucktail")
2008: 5 (1 caught on double-10)

Madison Chain (no lake specified):
2006: 6 (0 caught on bucktails)
2007: 5 (0 caught on double-10s, 1 caught on bucktail, 1 caught on spinner)
2008: 10 (2 caught on double-10s)

notably, a majority of the big fish are not caught on bucktails at all.
selecting for big fish makes a relatively small sample size, but numbers look consistent.
muskie! nut
Posted 10/26/2008 10:53 AM (#342403 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





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Location: Yahara River Chain
On Sept 4th I got 4 on a blk/silv DCG from 34 to 39 1/2. Missed 3 others that day. I was also out with McPike and he missed one fish twice on a Spanky.
lambeau
Posted 10/26/2008 10:54 AM (#342404 - in reply to #342401)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?


a bit more...

there are 115 muskies (any size) registered by CCMI members caught in Dane Co on bucktails so far in 2008.
of those fish, at least 68 were caught on double-10s...

i'd say they're still working pretty good!
ulbian
Posted 10/26/2008 11:04 AM (#342405 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?




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Any estimation of how much time they are being thrown in comparison to other baits? A break down of number of hours per fish caught on the double 10 will tell you a bit more than just a raw number of fish caught.
Bytor
Posted 10/26/2008 11:07 AM (#342406 - in reply to #342404)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





Location: The Yahara Chain
Those two 'bucktail' fish over 45, from Waubesa in 2006, were mine and they were both caught on 10's. The Dinnerbell wasn't in the lunge log at the time.

So far this year I have one in the 45+ category and several more on 10's. I don't see 10's ever not working on the Yahara Chain.
muskyhunter24
Posted 10/26/2008 4:49 PM (#342457 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





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Location: Madison WI
So it seems that by the numbers so far that it seems the muskies on the madison chain have become used to the DC 10's and less fish are being caught on them. This is what I thought was happening, I have had one follow on a DC 10 but of the 33 fish between me and my friend only 1 was caught on a dbl 10. Thanks for all the great stats Lambeau!
muskie! nut
Posted 10/26/2008 5:02 PM (#342460 - in reply to #342457)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





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muskyhunter24 - 10/26/2008 4:49 PM

So it seems that by the numbers so far that it seems the muskies on the madison chain have become used to the DC 10's and less fish are being caught on them.


What????? How do you conclude that???
lambeau
Posted 10/26/2008 5:05 PM (#342461 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?


yeah...i'll echo what Gerard said.
i'd say those stats, and anecdotal reports from people who fish there often, support the idea that the fish are responding to them just as much as they ever did.
Baby Mallard
Posted 10/26/2008 5:12 PM (#342463 - in reply to #342460)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





muskie! nut - 10/26/2008 5:02 PM

muskyhunter24 - 10/26/2008 4:49 PM

So it seems that by the numbers so far that it seems the muskies on the madison chain have become used to the DC 10's and less fish are being caught on them.


What????? How do you conclude that???


If anything, more fish are being caught every year on DC 10s in general. More people are using them and some never take them off. I can't speak for the Madison area, but I have seen a huge increase in the amount of people throwing them where I fish. Maybe the DC 10 craze will die down some day, but as of now it is still sky rocketing in popularity.

Edited by Baby Mallard 10/26/2008 5:14 PM
Musky Brian
Posted 10/26/2008 7:01 PM (#342480 - in reply to #342463)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
Had a fish on Wingra on a Spanky Bait Wendesday.

Totally blew it at the boat, shoulda been a caught fish without question.

Didn't see another fish on it after that
Jason Bomber
Posted 10/27/2008 1:04 AM (#342542 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





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I've seen NO decline in action on blades this year. More over 40, more over 45. Plenty of fish caught where you fish on them too, as a few friends basically refuse to take them off. A buddy had 4 one night within 50 yards of you guys earlier this year, up to 46, A week later or so they got a 38, then 46.5, then we boated a 45 on within minutes all on 10s. They still work just fine.
Guest
Posted 10/27/2008 8:35 AM (#342567 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: RE: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?


We're not talking Pavlov's Dog in a scientific experiment here. Stupid fish have a brain the size of a pea. Quit thinking so much and keep casting.Oh, and keep casting DCG's. Muskie Crack.
bn
Posted 10/27/2008 8:55 AM (#342572 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: RE: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?


imo you are inevitably going to miss out on catching fish if you ONLY fish double 10s...there are many days and times that they don't want them....but hey, if you think so great, I'll catch the fish you didn't catch fishing behind you.... my 2 cents.
muskyhunter24
Posted 10/27/2008 6:40 PM (#342678 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





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Location: Madison WI
Me and my buddy have caught 33 muskies this year between the 2 of us, 2 came on blades, one on a DCG and the other on a lucky 13. I know that last year on monona everyone was slaying them on DCG's and DC 10's but this year it seems that they weren't hitting them nearly as much as they were last year. I threw DCG's or DC 10's everyday I was out this year on monona which is somewhere around 80 days give or take since July. They must have been liking them during the day or something cause they sure didn't want them at night when I was out. Not to mention that there were days with 10+ boats out all throwing DC 10's and nobody catching anything or having any follows, it just seems that they were hitting them more last year then this year. I am in no way shape or form saying that they won't hit these baits I just think that they are getting conditioned to them more on some bodies of waters then others.
esox50
Posted 10/27/2008 7:12 PM (#342685 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





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Jeff, there is a fundamental difference between your style of fishing and most others on this board fishing the Mad Chain: you are fishing from shore. You don't have the ability to move around like guys in boats do. So I don't think you can say they are "getting conditioned" to a certain lure... they may just not be LOCATED where you're casting from shore. They've probably moved elsewhere and that is why you are not getting as many strikes. TIMING is critical.
Steve Jonesi
Posted 10/27/2008 7:17 PM (#342687 - in reply to #342396)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?




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Tools. Great tools, but still just tools. Situational at times , mandatory other times/places. Use the best tool for the job. Steve
john skarie
Posted 10/27/2008 7:31 PM (#342691 - in reply to #342687)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?




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Location: Detroint Lakes, MN

Isn't Muskies Inc. Lunge Log data reserved for members only?

I don't think printing it here is appropriate.

JS
muskie! nut
Posted 10/27/2008 7:34 PM (#342692 - in reply to #342678)
Subject: Re: Survey of fish caught on double 10's on the madison chain?





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Location: Yahara River Chain
muskyhunter24 - 10/27/2008 6:40 PM
I know that last year on monona everyone was slaying them on DCG's and DC 10's but this year it seems that they weren't hitting them nearly as much as they were last year.


I certainly didn't think that last year they were "slaying them on DCG" While some were caught on DCG I heard more caught on Waubesa rather than Monona. To draw the hard conclusion that these fish are conditioned is not true. I posted early that I caught 4 and missed 3 more and my buddy missed 3 as well. That is action on 10 plus I had a follow that turned away at the 8 = 11 fish in one day.

If you think these fish are conditioned to DCG, then they would be on a whole lot of lures of all type and kinds, because these lakes get a ton of good intelligent pressure from plenty of good sticks.