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Location: Madison, WI | Currently I have an eagle 480 up front, and a lawrance 480m/gps at the console, the 480m at the console is a bit hard to read b/c of the split screen. Anyone have a suggestion? Thanks. Or if anyone has a used locator for sale let me know, i'd perfer something with a 4 inch screen or bigger.
Edited by Magruter 9/3/2008 10:21 AM
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Get a flasher, the best thing going, by far. |
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Location: WI | Can't you just "unsplit" the screen? I use a Eagle FishElite500C and when I'm working big structure I don't even use the sonar part, just the map. I can see it from the front of my 16ft Lund if I spin in around. |
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Location: Madison, WI | Yeah I can unsplit the screen that's what I'm looking to do. Use the GPS as a full Screen and have another Locator next to it. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=348218
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=344683
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=344675 |
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Location: Madison, WI | any input on the following 2?
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_1...
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_1...
i already have a 480 upfront, i do like, but the 96x is the same price. both seem like good locators. |
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| imo you are better off going w/ color, 2 side by side units..one for gps, one for sonar...
you spend 97% of your time in the front of the boat put the $$ there first...
don't worry about the split screen at the console...who cares if it's hard to read a bit...
you just run the lake with that...you fish up front...wait and save some money and get good units once rather than put something less than desirable up at the bow...
imo 2 units up front is the bomb....
and at the console |
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Location: God's Country......USA..... Western Wisconsin | Ditto what BN said. I put the$$$ up front where I spend my time. Very nice indeed to have a very good locator and a GPS/Nav up front where I can use it. |
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | I'd go with the Hummingbird Sworrel put up. 2000 watts peak to peak and larger screen size for same price. Unless I'm missing something, that would be my choice.
I have a Garmin fishfinder 250 that is out of production and is 320x320 with 4000 watts peak to peak. It takes on water but I can get it refurbished to new for $99 by Garmin.
For that price I couldn't find anything that matches the power.
Then again, I really don't know what else to consider other than screen size and power---maybe I'd be better off with a newer unit and less power that would be superior in some other way.
Edited by Cowboyhannah 9/9/2008 4:52 PM
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Location: Racine, Wi | If you were going to go between the eagle and the lowrance, go with the x96. The biggest difference is that the lowrance has memory, so when you turn it off and on, you get the same settings that you had when you turned it off (on the Lowrance). That way, you don't have to adjust your settings over and over.
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| used Eagle ultra classic, FM320's for long time. Now using a Humminbird GPS 595C with the navionics split screen. $400 price point. fantastic unit and easy install
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | I was fishing with Merckid earlier this summer and was impressed by the clarity of his lcx27. TThis thread got me thinking (which is rarely a good thing) about clarity and pixels and screen size....
Here's what I've concluded....Regarding clarity of display, keep in mind that the pixels (320x480) or (480x640) represent the number of pixels or 'dots' that are displayed from top to bottom, Height, and from one side of the screen to the other or Width. Buyers should keep in mind that the total pixels displayed---gotten by mulitplying the two numbers----needs to be considered in relation to the display size of the screen. That is key when considering clarity.
If you divide the total pixels by the diagonal size of the screen you will wind up with a number that can be considered as a 'clarity' indicator on a given unit.
I'm bored so I ran those numbers on a few units...higher the number means more clarity:
Started with mine...Garmin Fishfinder 250 and 178c. (same specs)...survey sez....22,755
lcx-27....survey sez....43,885 --that's why I liked his so much better than mine.
Garmin 400....survey sez.....18,285
Eagle 500...survey sez....15,360
Ealge 480.....46,080
Eagle 640....61,440
x96...20,480
Hummingbird 141....14,400
Hummingbird 565...40,960
At some point I'm going to upgrade my locaters but want to wait and see if the price of the SIs come down in the next couple years first. |
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| Great post and good to see the 565 near the leaderbord :o) |
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Location: Madison, WI | Very nice post. thanks for the input. |
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| If you divide the total pixels by the diagonal size of the screen you will wind up with a number that can be considered as a 'clarity' indicator on a given unit.
i'm not sure about whether or not that's a mathematically accurate way to find image resolution since a) i'm not a math guy, and b) i'm not sure if sonar displays are reported in relative pixels or pixels per inch? if it's pixels per inch, wouldn't the pure resolution be the same regardless of screen size? image would be spread over a larger/smaller area but pure resolution wouldn't change...just easier to separate on a bigger screen?
long and short: once you get into higher resolution units you get a clear image.
Lowrance LCX-37: 8.4" diagonal, 600v x 800h ($1449 w/dual beam)
Humminbird 957: 8" diagonal, 480v x 800h ($1299 w/dual beam)
Lowrance LCX-27: 7" diagonal, 480v x 640h ($1049 w/dual beam)
Humminbird 917: 7" diagonal, 480v x 800h ($999 w/dual beam)
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | Lambeau--
I'm teaching myself here along with everyone else, but I do believe the pixel count is the number of dots from the top to bottom of the screen or left side to right side of the screen. Vertical pixels are more important as horizontal pixels are really just a recording over time while vertical pixel count relative to screen size is what allows you to actually see space between a fish on bottom and the bottom itself rather than appearing as a high spot on the bottom....
Here is something I cam across that seems to explain it:
"Pixel Count
An LCG screen is made up of tiny units called pixels. Think of it as a mural created with many tiny tiles and you have the general idea. The sonar creates an image by turning pixels on and off. When it wants a black mark on the screen it turns a pixel on, and where it wants a blank pixel is left off. The quality and detail of the screen display are directly related to the size of the individual pixels. The more pixels in each vertical line, the less distance each pixel represents..."
I guess my point was simply not to fall into the thinking that more pixels means better quality and detail. You are probably right, though, once you get into higher end units screen quality and detail should not be an issue.
Here is the link to that page:
http://www.tasfish.com/30/understanding-fish-finders-part-two/
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Locator recommendation?