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| i read somewhere that it's now required that any fishing guide in the country must have a captains license on any public water way. is this true? i know many guides do not have one and if caught can get in some trouble. one particular guide on the fox chain rings a bell.
is this true? |
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Location: Brainerd Area | Diffrent states, diffrent laws. Here in MN, you want to be a guide? POOF your a gude. HEHEHEHE
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| I talked to a guide today and he said it was nationwide. He also stated that him and another guide by the name of Rich Gallagher (guides on the Fox Chain) had to get one. After doing some research online, websites state its the law in every state if the waterway is public. If you receive money, then you need a captains license. If its private or owned by the town its in, then the rules can be different.
Anyone else have any info.? |
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| If you guide on USCG water then you need a Captains liscense. If it's not USCG water then it's up to the state. In Wisconsin you only need to be a Captain on Lake Michigan , Superior, The Mississippi River System and the Winnebago system. All other waters all you need is a liscence that anybody can buy for a small fee. |
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| Your both wrong on Mille Lacs . . .you only need Double Cowgirl |
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Location: Palm Coast, FL | In Indiana, you need a guide license (not a captains license) and must have your boat inspected per USCG rules. |
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Location: Sturgeon Bay WI | Interesting, I didnt hear it was a nationwide req at all. The Fox Chain, it IS required to have a valid captains license to guide, due to the Fox River/Waterway etc. However I know/see quite a few guys who dont have that captains license and do so anyways, so Im not sure how stictly that is enforced.
On another note, this is rather far stretched as well. I heard that "technically" you also need a captains licence to guide on Pewaukee lake. Due to some fish actually that have reached the Fox River - ending up in the Fox Chain... that were out of Pewaukee, etc. I am not sure of the validity of this, it came from a pretty reliable source however!
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| I must have missed the part about the guy I talked to stating that it is required on USCG waterways. |
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| It is indeed a fact that muskies have swam from pewaukee lake and ended up in the fox chain..Its also a fact that you technically need to be a captain to guide on pewaukee lake..The difference between pewaukee and the fox chain is that the coast guard actually patrolls the fox chain and not pewaukee. Kind of a fine line..I heard from my instructor that the coast guard was going to start patrolling the madisom chain and pewaukee starting next summer, but who knows if it will ever happen..Technically you also need to be a captain to guide the madison chain..The coast guard has been a division of homeland security ever since 911 and the regulations and patrolls will only increase as the years go on.. |
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| If any part of a federal waterway (including the rivers and tributarys) flows in/out of any body of water than that body is considered a federal waterway..So Pewaukee would be considered federal because of the fact that water from pewaukee lake eventually flows from the pewaukee river into the Fox river, which then flows to the fox chain and so on.. |
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Location: syracuse indiana | yes vince is right. thats what we have to have here in inland waters of indiana.. but if you are on lake michigan then you do need a coastguard captain certification class. and the usual of a uscg drydock and in water inspections. and a liabality insurance of 85,000 per person....bill |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I'll stick to the WIDNR's definition of navigable fed water until they tell me differently. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Guest - 8/23/2008 12:18 AM
I heard from my instructor that the coast guard was going to start patrolling the madisom chain starting next summer, but who knows if it will ever happen..
I really doubt this. |
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| Following "state" set guidlines pertaining to "federal" jurisdiction might get you in trouble in the long run..If you guide on waters that are "technically" federal waterways than I would get in contact with the nearest coast guard station for clarification..The coast guard has so much more authority than the dnr its not even funny.
If you get so much as a warning from the coast guard while you are guiding on federal waterways and not licensed, you may never be able to legally get your captains license.
Those are the facts..I could care less what anyone else does..I have my certification so no worries for me.
Just a little FYI muskie nut..Although its not a common thing to see on the mad chain, the coast guard has been randomly patrolling there for years. Just like it used to be on the winnebago chain..The USCG would only randomly patrol during busy times of the season and now there basically a permanent fixture..Same with the Fox chain in IL..Its only a matter of time before there on every lake that has anything to do with the fox river
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Fishing guides need captains license?