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| When hunting white tail deer, the guy's who shoot's a monster buck year after year will usually hunt totally different (locations and patterns) then the guy who shoot's small bucks and doe's. I feel that small bucks and these big antlered monsters can't be patterned and hunted the same way.
Are big muskies the same as a big whitetail buck?
Do you need to fish different when in search of true monster fish or fish the same as you would if looking for a "legal fish" and just hope to luck into (pay your dues with time on the water) a super hawg? |
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| I think that the same applies to Muskies that applies to big bucks. First, hunt where there ARE big bucks. Second, study, learn, spend tons of time in the woods, study, and learn more, then know your prey, and know it well. Lastly, in my case at least, don't miss when the plan comes together after two months of hard work. Did that on both last year, a huge fish, and a huge buck. Oh well...[8)] [:(] [:blackeye:] [;)] |
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| I have to agree with my partner on this one. Want big bucks? You have to hunt in areas with good genetics and good habitat. Not every woodlot holds a book buck.
Same goes for trophy muskies. Want big fish? Look for them in "big fish waters". We all know of some famous trophy waters and we all have our own 'sleepers'. Point is that some lakes have a better chance of producing big fish while other lakes don't. If you are strictly looking for trophies, then fish trophy waters.
I've found big bucks and big muskies are very similar. They didn't get to trophy size by being stupid. I recall having this discussion with Sworrall on the water one day. Since we both are avid bow hunters, it was easy to draw similarities between the two pastimes.
Lots of patience, lots of time in the woods or on the water, and a little bit of luck.
Hard work is no guarantee, but it's the best tool that you have.
Beav
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| I'll try it again. Didn't work the first time. |
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| Nice buck BEAV!!!
Over the years (when I was guiding) I had to stay on the numbers game to keep fish in the boat for cleints. Everyone once in a while I would stumble on a big fish pattern and score, but that is not always a numbers game, for beginners when just learned what a 6500-c3 was. They would move the big fish, but not have the experence to know what to do with it. Eight years of guiding and 48" was the biggest I could muster for my clients and that was an experenced one in Ben Clendening.
This year, I could care less if I catch 25 muskies. I am just going to have fun trying to hunt the fish that has eluded me for so long, and of course bag tons of bluegills and crappies with my daughter in between.
I think I have some ideas that will put me in the big fish game on my lake, but I might only get a fish every week or so trying. I think it will be worth it.[;)] [:bigsmile:] |
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| I hear ya Jason, and thanks.
This year I'm heading to MN for 2 weeks in Sept looking for some better fish than I've been catching in my usual haunts. I'll be up the first week by myself....rumor has it that I'm gonna have a roomie....the second week my wife and daughter are coming up and I think we'll be doing more perch fishing than anything else. Seems when you have a daughter or son with you, everything else takes a back seat.....until she catches the fever
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| Did someone say bowhunting.There is a big link between the two.There are places to just fill a tag and musky fish.But when hunting for bragging rite one gotta do some home work and pay some do's.I love hunting funnels off high traveled areas in rut.Has pay off over the years.This my best from last year.I'am still new to musky hunting. Gotta learn my waters better.Kind of like sitting in a tree.Do that a enough and PAY attendtion to the world as it happens you learn when and where to be.This one walk under my tree at about 10 yards.Where my knee knocking YOU BET.But I was ready.Like sticking a pig, every thing you can do to be ready for it.When it happens you gotta be ready to react instead of drooling.Save that for later[:bigsmile:] I'am still working on that.But I'am learning Blummer |
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| Did someone say bowhunting.There is a big link between the two.There are places to just fill a tag and musky fish.But when hunting for bragging rite one gotta do some home work and pay some do's.I love hunting funnels off high traveled areas in rut.Has pay off over the years.This my best from last year.I'am still new to musky hunting. Gotta learn my waters better.Kind of like sitting in a tree.Do that a enough and PAY attendtion to the world as it happens you learn when and where to be.This one walk under my tree at about 10 yards.Where my knee knocking YOU BET.But I was ready.Like sticking a pig, every thing you can do to be ready for it.When it happens you gotta be ready to react instead of drooling.Save that for later[:bigsmile:] I'am still working on that.But I'am learning Blummer |
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| Only pic I got of this 9 pointer from behind the house...had tape on my face...was lucky to hit it![;)] |
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| Try again.... |
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| In this pic w/ an 8 pointer I was forced to wear a blindfold + have my pic made...I was handing out peace sign medallions at the time I was abducted..... |
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| Way to go Sponge Bob,I tip my hat to you.That goes for you to Beaver.Isn't nothing like FRESH butter fried backstrap.[:p] Blummer |
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| You too Bloomer. Nice buck.
Spongy, they don't count if you hit them with the car or if you shoot 'em while they're eating your wifes flowers.
Did you really kill that BIG one?[:0] It looks like you cut it out of a magazine and disfigured the guys face on purpose. When are we going to get a clear picture of you?
We should all have to put up a mug shot with our names when we post. Witness protection or not......and how did we get off of the subject again?
One more week....one more week....one more week |
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| As beaver mentioned big fish waters will old the bigger girls more then numbers waters but there are different ways and location to fish for those big fish then numbers of small ones.
I fish a very large body of water with numbers and large fish, some years ago I decided to target bigger fish for an entire year. Well my avg fish size went up from 38 to 42 and my hours per catch went up 1 hour so as you all know I have never fished for numbers again. It's all trophy fishing for me now except for a weekend vacation here and there on numbers waters.
My big fish system is probably something I will never tell anyone no matter how much an article or seminar pays but I may have it in a vault to be released after my passing. [:sun:] |
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| How about I arrange a Sponge Bob hunting trip for you.Just e-mail your methods and I'll go to work on Spongy.Come on I need all the help I can get.Blummer[:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:] |
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| Lol dudes! Both pics were taken w/ one of those instamatics at a hunting fishing store a buddy of mine has. The first was taken in the back of a Trooper I had + the second in the back of my truck...+ Beav that is the way I look..are you making fun of me?[;)] I like the pic Dennis...steep as a mother behind the house here. Drive a half hour + it starts looking like the area your pic was in! |
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| Spongy I'am about 30 yard from a tree line on a creek.About the only trees I have, other then farm groves and some state ground.Learned how to hunt fence lines that connected to this waterway. Including creek it's only about 60 yards wide but man what possibilities.Now gotta learn my waters and nail a pig.Blummer |
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| Sounds like a good funnel...I hunt an area about 50 yrds square...there is a field in front of me on a water line + a steep ridge full of laurel behind me + my treestand is on a little point on a clear saddle....longest shot has been 40 yrds...the nine pointer was shot at 8 yrds! PERFECT funnel/ambush spot...took 2 yrs before I had it figured out. Best of all it is only 1.5 miles behind the house + a 200 yrd walk to the stand...open gate + drive to the site to retrieve deer. There is a fence to the right of the stand also. I don't know how much longer I"ll be able to hunt it though as the owner is getting up in age + eventually the land will be sold. They just sold 50+ acres below there for 3.5 million so it won't be long before my little chunk of paradise will be someones homesite![:(] But for the past 6 yrs brother + I have taken some primo bucks so I can't complain....just hate to lose something that good so close to home! |
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| Don't feel like The Lone Ranger. It's happening everywhere.
Lucky for me, we own 50 acres on the end of a dead end road. Tillable on 3 sides and a pasture on the other. The next sections of woods are a few 40's away. All around the area they are selling 40's in 8 and 10 acre pieces and sinking a community well in the middle of it. Then everybody puts up a 24'x30' Amish log cabin and they get together and hug the trees to death. If you can see the Mississippi River from the ridge where the land is, then you have to dig deep to pay. But the people that buy those tracts have to buy bigger sections. So they put up huge log homes and the 40+ acres that they have to drive through to get to their home doesn't get farmed anymore and they let it return to a 'natural state'. They think it's a prarie, but there's no natural grasses, it's just goldenrod and thistle. Hate to see it happening. At least for now, my end of the road is safe. When they start building around it, I'll sell it and buy 2 Tuffys [;)]
That 9 is awesome Spongy. Get it scored?
Beav
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| Beav, never did get it scored...matter of fact I wasn't even going to have it mounted, but a buddy of mine said I was an idiot not to so I did. The only pic of it was that one...I'm not much on that stuff but glad now I did. We hunted one in the same area that made the 9 look like a spike; it had at least a 26" spread + 18 points...brother saw it 30 yds away once + about passed out! As far as I know it died of old age as we have not seen it for 3 yrs now. Land/housing is through the roof here but peeps still are willing to pay out the yang so I guess there is no end to it. Guess it's like that everywhere. More + more farms/private land is being posted or leased but the one good thing is hunting license sales are down so the National forest areas aren't as crowded. And I can always hunt off the back deck![:sun:] |
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Two types of muskies?