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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Comes in 6:1.1 gears, 36" line pickup !!!!!!!!!!!! and will retail for $169.95 !!!!!!!
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Location: NYC (and many weeks in MN during summer) | I had heard daiwa was working on something 5 or 6 months ago, then I didn't hear anything. Thought it was dead in the water. Glad to see the prototype exists. I can say with complete certainty that this is a must have for all muskie hunters. Hopefully, if they get enough print coverage in magazines, and they sell a few too, shimano and others will follow suit!!
Thanks for the pic.
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| Nice looking reel,any idea when they will be available? |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Now...
http://www.jandh.com/p-1333-daiwa-saltist-levelwind-reels.aspx |
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| that's cool.
i've been running the Daiwa Saltist (non-levelwind) this year for my oversize bucktails and it's an awesome reel, especially at the affordable price when compared to other reels in this class.
it's extremely strong, casts a mile, and brings even hard-pulling double-12s in very fast without breaking your hand (i have the narrow high-speed version at 47"/crank). i 've found that by just slightly under-filling the spool, the line loads nicely even without the levelwind.
great reel. the addition of the levelwind will make it even easier to use.
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Location: Verona, WI | I was hoping it was going to be the STT30TH which has the 47 inches of line retrieve but it looks like it's the "slower" reel with "only" 36" of line retrieve per crank. Still a great reel but I am hoping for the STT30TH to come out with a levelwind. I have adapted pretty well to fishing without a levelwind but having one would reduce backlashes. Nice job by Daiwa.
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| Nice looking reel, but will you still have to manually engage the lever after the cast? Kdawg |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Another look
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Location: Hugo, MN | Wow, really nice looking reel. Looks like I'm going to need another rod. |
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| gorgeous...
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| I agree with lambeau, I've been running the Saltist all year as well, and it's just a great reel, even without the line guide. I haven't had any backlash problems, and the thing is built like a tank. The line guide should make it all the better. Nice job Diawa. |
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Location: Iowa | Which one are you guys using size wise...the 20, 30, 40 or 50? and why is it that the 6.1:1 gear ratio makes reeling in cowgirls so much easier...is the gearing system different in these reel then say a Daiwa Luna? I am a little confused...can someone shed some light on the subject a little deeper. Thanks
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | I'm not trying to start a beef here, I'm just simply curious. When there is a huge price difference in comparable reels, inevetably someone will say something to the effect of "you get what you pay for." In this case, I'm seeing this reel as comparable to the Shimano Trinidad or Torium but a very large price difference to the Trinidad. So my question is why has no one chimed in that you get what you pay for? Is the Saltist just that well made, yet it can be offered for about half what a Trinidad costs? I think I'm missing something here. If someone can please fill me in on why the big price difference I'd appreciate it.
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Location: NYC (and many weeks in MN during summer) | I'm thinking that the saltist IS a good deal. I own a trinidad only because I'm partial to shimano products. I own 7 shimanos now for muskies and one red Isis. IMO, the Calcutta 400 te is that much better than all the reels in its class and in that case, the saying you get what you pay for is applicable, IMO. Same goes for my lighter set up with thecalcutta 250te DC.
With that being said, I have cast the saltist a few times (without levelwind) and it pulls the dbl 10's very nicely. In fact, as well as the trinidad. Since it's not mine, I don't know what it's maintance history is orhiw long it will last. I can say though that my trinidad will outlive me, even in ten years when we are throwing baits so large that the 10's, 13's and the new #20 are made to look small.
One more note. The levelwindon the saltist makes it a MUCH more versatile reel than the trinidad. To get the line to spool evenly, the trinidad must be in constant retrieve with resistance. The new saltist will let you throw baits that you can rip, pause and jerk more easily.
Saltist could easily be $100 more and still a good deal.
My long winded .02cents
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Thanks for the info, Randy. I appreciate your input. Very good information. |
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| keep in mind that the particular model you get makes a big difference.
i'm using the 30TH (narrow spool, high speed) that offers 47" of line pick up.
i didn't notice it at first, but the new Saltist shown above with a line guide only offers 36" of line pickup.
for me, using a reel this huge is only worth it because of the amount of power/speed it offers and in that case the 47" makes a difference to me. there are other reels that offer large spool/low gearing that are easier to handle. line feeds fine on the 30TH as long as you've got tension on it. a line guide would be nice, but i won't downsize/downspeed to get it.
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| lambeau, you said you underfilled your spool though...have you actually tested how many inches per crank you are bringing in?? if so what was it per crank??
my guess you are not bringing in nearly 47" per crank if you underfilled your spool by a 1/4...if you are bringing in 47" per crank I would suspect you will have forearms like Popeye fairly soon...these big saltwater reels and double tens are best suited imo with about 36-40" inches per crank...which makes it easier to really kick into high gear when you really need to...
so that 36" with a full spool on the other reel might just be enough... keep that in mind..
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | lambeau - 7/28/2008 10:00 AM
keep in mind that the particular model you get makes a big difference.
i'm using the 30TH (narrow spool, high speed) that offers 47" of line pick up.
i didn't notice it at first, but the new Saltist shown above with a line guide only offers 36" of line pickup.
for me, using a reel this huge is only worth it because of the amount of power/speed it offers and in that case the 47" makes a difference to me. there are other reels that offer large spool/low gearing that are easier to handle. line feeds fine on the 30TH as long as you've got tension on it. a line guide would be nice, but i won't downsize/downspeed to get it.
Good point, and I understand that, but I'm really wondering about the difference between the price points as it translates to the quality of these reels, Saltist to Trinidad. Even the Saltist w/o the level wind is quite a bit less expensive than a Trinidad and they are comparable reels from what I understand with regards to size, application design (meaning saltwater live bait reels), and retrieve speed. As I mentioned above, whenever there is a large discrepancy like this, someone will point out the difference and mention you get what you pay for. Maybe another way of asking this is what is a person NOT getting with a Saltist that they would get with a Trinidad except and extra 2 C notes from their pocket? When comparisons are drawn between other reels (say an Abu 6500 to a Calcutta TE), the differences are quickly pointed out and if you buy an Abu you "get what you pay for."
Again, I'm not starting a Ford/Chevy debate, I'm just wondering why everyone seems to be so on board with the Saltist when there is a big difference in price, and had I asked what the difference is between a C3 and a Calcutta, I would be told that I get whet I pay for in terms of quality?
Hope this helps with my thought process and thanks for the input.
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| lambeau, you said you underfilled your spool though...have you actually tested how many inches per crank you are bringing in?? if so what was it per crank??
my guess you are not bringing in nearly 47" per crank if you underfilled your spool by a 1/4...if you are bringing in 47" per crank I would suspect you will have forearms like Popeye fairly soon...these big saltwater reels and double tens are best suited imo with about 36-40" inches per crank...which makes it easier to really kick into high gear when you really need to...
i underfilled it only a very slight amount. just enough so that if the line isn't feeding straight on the center it won't pile up over the edge of the spool on the side.
with about a 350yd line capacity, i'd have to shed 75yds to be 1/4 underspooled; i only took off about 15yds, definitely less than 25 yards under max...so i probably lost a bit on the retrieve speed, dropping all the way down to the 45"-46"/crank range.
with the power handle at the fully extended setting, you can get a middling-fast retrieve with a very moderate crank pace. even at only moderate retrieve speeds you'll blow double-10s out of the water if they aren't weighted; i build my own bucktails and have been putting on as much as 2oz of lead to keep them wet.
speed up (as you say, when needed) and the thing absolutely blasts. you'd be hard-pressed to do that for more than about 10 casts, but it's there when you need it. when running the big bucktails i'd rather reel at a moderate pace and get a fast retrieve speed without tiring myself out whirring a crank as fast as my hand can move.
since this is a very big reel (and i have small hands), i would use a different reel if i was looking for something in the 35-40"/crank range. there are other options out there that aren't as bulky. but, in the really fast range this one works great.
Good point, and I understand that, but I'm really wondering about the difference between the price points as it translates to the quality of these reels, Saltist to Trinidad.
i can't speak to the Trinidad, as i haven't used it. i've made just a few casts with the less expensive Torium version, and it seemed comparable to my Saltist.
i can say that i've used some very hard-pulling baits (double 10s, double 12s) with the Saltist, retrieving that at high speeds and it's both performed and held up extremely well so far.
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | I did some checking around last nite and saw this comes in a 6.4:1 level wind as well. On this website, the level wind 6.4:1 only comes in the two largest sizes, the 40 and 50.
Here's the link if you're interested. http://www.charkbait.com/cs/csrd.htm |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | Thanks for the link.
Do you think there is a significant difference between 6.0:1 and 6.4:1 gear ratios?
I'm wondering if the smaller frame of the N20 model would be an advantage for the caster who palms the reel.
Wish the freespool lever auto engaged with a turn of the reel handle too. I'm assuming that feature makes doing the "Joe Bucher Synchronized Casting" a little challenging???
Please keep the feedback coming on this reel... as I'm seriously considering making a purchase... and value first-hand experiences. Thanks. |
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| jlong - 8/1/2008 8:57 AM
Wish the freespool lever auto engaged with a turn of the reel handle too. I'm assuming that feature makes doing the "Joe Bucher Synchronized Casting" a little challenging???
Not at all Jason.
Within a few casts you will be used to manually engaging the lever. You can synchronize tails just as well as with a crank engaging reel. |
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Jason,
I emailed Josh at J & H (the link at the top of this thread) a few days ago and asked him to compare the size 30 Saltist w/levelwind reel to an Abu 6500 C3 and he said they are close in size to each other. This is what he told me so I don't know with 100% certainty if it's the case without actually seeing one.
On a personal note, I palm Abu 7000's so for me it's not a real issue, but I'd still like to know for certain about the size also.
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Location: Black Creek, WI | Baldy.... how do you get the blade spinning at impact... if you need a micro second to flip (engage) the lever back before winding in line? Seems awkward... but I suppose its one of those things you just gotta try to really know?
888, I have no problem palming an ABU 7000 either.... so that makes me feel better about the N30 over the N20. My concern with the N20 is that it is small enough that loss of spool diameter on a cast would be a concern.
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| Do you think there is a significant difference between 6.0:1 and 6.4:1 gear ratios?
the difference translates to 11" of line. when really burning a lure at something like 2-3 cranks/second that's a pretty significant difference in potential speed, especially when multiplied over the length of a full cast.
the 20H (6.0:1) brings it in at 36"/crank.
the 30H (6.0:1) brings it in at 36"/crank.
the 30TH (6.4:1) brings it in at 47"/crank.
the 20 size isn't available in a 6.4:1 ("T") version as far as i can find.
I'm wondering if the smaller frame of the N20 model would be an advantage for the caster who palms the reel.
this reel is significantly bigger than a 6500 size round reel. much, much bigger. it's moderately bigger than a 7000 size, but has rounded edges so in some ways that helps you hold it with less pain.
for me, that was the hardest thing to get used to in using this reel (30TH model). i palm the reel, but i have quite small hands. at first i tried changing to a front cork grip, but i didn't like that so went back to palming the reel. the accomodation i made is that i just basically palm the reel - only my pinkie finger is under the rod. i worried that my hand would slip doing this, but that hasn't happened, i can grip around enough of the reel that i have a good hold on it. a smaller reel would be easier, but again, not available in the 6.4:1 as far as i could find.
I'm assuming that feature makes doing the "Joe Bucher Synchronized Casting" a little challenging?
yes, slightly harder but not something that stops you from doing it. you get used to the timing and i just flick the lever a split second before the lure lands and start cranking. it's a non-issue with a little practice.
same thing goes for disengaging it on figure-8s (i prefer to be in freespool). with a bit of practice i find myself doing it automatically as i go into the 8 and don't even realize consciously that i've done it anymore.
due to the fact that it doesn't have a levelwind, it's obviously more backlash prone, even if your thumb is pretty "experienced" since the spool is going very very fast and is a goodly bit wider than your thumb.
i found that it's more important with this reel than with others to set your spool tension appropriately. it's made a big difference for me, especially since i'm not the most careful caster in the world when it comes to avoiding backlashes.
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| Does anyone know if they are planning on making a left hand model in the near future? |
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| jlong - 8/1/2008 10:35 AM
Baldy.... how do you get the blade spinning at impact... if you need a micro second to flip (engage) the lever back before winding in line? Seems awkward... but I suppose its one of those things you just gotta try to really know?
Jason,
I cast with my left so I never have to switch hands.
On a cast, I thumb the spool a second or so before it hits the water and move my right hand to the lever. As soon as the bait hits the water, I flip the lever with my thumb, and my hand is already on the crank ready to go.
I'm not the most coordinated guy in the world and I can do it. I bet you'll have no problems once you try it |
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| A friend of mine gave me a Pflueger Contender G50HS. The reel is a saltwater reel with a 6.0:1 gear ratio so I thought it would both have power in speed to reel in the double tens(doesn't have a levelwind). Even though it cranks them in fast, I find it very tiring after only a few casts. Everyone is talking about how the saltwater reels reel them in very fast and easy. I've never tried a Trinidad or Saltist but these reels seem similar with the Pflueger contender. What are the differenes? I find the Contender hard to reel in after a while. Thanks.
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | If the STTLW30HA with 6:1.1 gears has a line pickup of 36" and the STTLW40HA with 6:4.1 gears has a line pickup of 46", the STTLW40HA has to a BIG reel/ LARGE SPOOL to gain 10" of line pick up over the STTLW30HA. Also I would like to know the size of the pinion and main gear, from the STTLW30HA to the STTLW40HA ???? The STTLW30HA weights in at 19.4oz and the STTLW40HA comes in at 22.6oz. Daiwa makes the SALTIST LEVELWIND in a 20HA and a 30HA in 6:1.1 ratio only, and the 40A and the 50A in 4:9.1 gears and the 40HA and the 50HA in 6:4.1 gears.
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you're right about the spool size on the 40 being much larger than the 30; it holds 170 more yds of line!
one advantage of the 30TH in the non-levelwind version is you get the "Ultra High Speed" (Daiwa's term) with 47"/crank in the smaller 30 spool size plus in a narrow spool as well. though still heavy at 23oz, the size of the reel isn't as cumbersome as the full/wide versions; it gives you a manageable reel that can really burn.
if they'd come out with a STTLW30THA (levelwind, narrow spool, ultra high speed)...i'd buy it. but for now i'll wait and see, the lack of a levelwind really isn't an issue with a little practice.
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | When are these going to be available to the masses through the big order stores like thornes, rollies and basspro/cabelas? |
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| imho that thing have some poor casting feature,no advantage over a 7001 or a luna,if they build one whit a pb or a tb maybe but not like that. |
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Daiwa shows on their website that they do offer a levelwind in the 6.4:1 gears with 47.2 line pickup. The model number is STTLW40HA and STTLW50HA. Heres the link. http://www.daiwa.com/Reel/detail.aspx?ID=442 |
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| Justin,
There are several on Ebay right now. |
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Would the 47"/crank almost be to fast? Lets say i would want to slow the double 10's down. Even at crankin these as slow as possible wouldent it still blow these out of the water? Would i be best to get the 36"/crank model so i can crank the double 10's slow plus very fast and still be able to work other baits such as bulldawgs at their own speed? |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | muskie_man - 8/3/2008 10:31 AM
Would the 47"/crank almost be to fast? Lets say i would want to slow the double 10's down. Even at crankin these as slow as possible wouldent it still blow these out of the water? Would i be best to get the 36"/crank model so i can crank the double 10's slow plus very fast and still be able to work other baits such as bulldawgs at their own speed?
IMO, no. You can always slow down. If it gets to be an 'annoyingly slow' cranking pace, then switch to a different reel (i.e., 7000, Luna, Calcutta, etc.). I was side by side w/ lambeau at Vermilion a couple weeks ago and he was using his Saltist at 47"/crank and was moving double 10s and double 9s faster that I was capable of w/ a 7000c (5.3:1). I was working a helluva lot harder than he was too. He even had enough spare energy to laugh at me..."hahaha, you should see how fast your hand is moving".
The Saltist is not by any means a 'jack of all trades' reel. It is a very specialized tool for a specific purpose - moving hard to pull baits very fast. When you don't need to do that, it's purely overkill. I probably don't need one, but believe me, I am very well aware of their capabilities and if I ever feel the NEED to move a bait that fast, I'll be getting one.
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Location: Hugo, MN | Why is it that many people find 36" per crank to be too slow when a normal reel retrieves 20-25". Does a muskie look at a bait flying through the water at 6 mph and think, "I'd eat it if it were going 7". What is the difference, really? The fact is, at those speeds, the blades are warping and the clevises are being stressed to the breaking point. Maybe 47" is TOO much. I have a Curado 300 that does 30" (I measured it), and I burned a Mepps Musky Killer at a pretty good clip. Add 6" more to each crank, along with more leverage, and the double tens will be flying. I don't see how being faster than that is going to catch more fish. If anything, I'd think you'd blow the bait past a fish faster than it can react more often than not. Am I missing something? Has anybody found that a bait retrieved with a 47"/crank reel will outproduce a 36"/crank reel? I've somehow managed to catch a few on standard retrieves. |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | I think most folks are way over estimating how fast a bait is moving when they're really cranking it . F. ex 7mph is ~ 10.26 ft/sec or ~123.2"/sec or ~ 2.62 revoltions/sec on Lambeau's Saltist . I don't think so! What higher speeds give you is change in the bait's signature i.e., both accoustic and water pressure wave (lateral line stimulation).
A muskie can definitely react to a bait at 7mph, i.e., they can accelerate to ~51ft/sec or 30 mph. I don't think you can pull a bait away from a muskie that really wants it!
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Location: NYC (and many weeks in MN during summer) | there isn't a reel in the world that can make a bait move faster than a musky. Not even close!!!!
Anyway, when reeling a bait in quickly, the consensus is that muskies fear their meal is going to get away and this causes a reactionary strike. It doesn't give the fish a chance to realize it's not real food.
And yes, there is a big difference in retrieving at 36" or 47" per crank.
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | I am still iffy on buying this reel. I was told from a guy at Thorne bros that this reel was made for fishing king fish and it was not really made for casting applications but for live bait fishin. Also the question arised how long will the reel last using double 10's since its a new reel and not many has tested it out. I am still liking the price and the line retrieval. I might take a shot with it. |
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Location: N.FIB | well I hope this reel is half way decent since I just ordered one.My ihsn 7000 went out on me again today,just got it back a month ago from sportsmans repair,not sure whats really wrong with it yet,but I won`t fish with it until I send it back out and get it back again.I`m just looking for something to last me til the end of the season,reels always break on me every year so it`s no big deal. |
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| Lambeau, or others using the Saltist successfully -
Did you make any changes to the brake system on your Saltist?
I pulled out one brake, but left the other intact in an effort to maximize distance...still having more backlash problems than I care to admit.
I also changed line to Bronzeback and adjusted the spool tension; both of which helped a great deal, though the frequency of backlashes is still not where I would expect them to be.
Of course, the real culprit could be my non-educated, sausage-sized thumb...
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Location: N.FIB | CASTING55 - 8/5/2008 7:53 PM
got my reel in the mail and tried it out today,doesn`t reel as smooth as my big game 7000 garcia,but it picks up the line faster.If I want I can blow a doulbe 10 out of the water,I also used it to throw my 10 inch weagle and it worked great for that.Overall I`m not gonna brag this reel up,but I`m not gonna get rid of it either,time will tell how long this reel will last.I will be up in vilas county next week so it will get a weeks long of abuse from me.Also I ordered the one pictured on this thread,and the shipping was also free,and I`m very impressed with J-H tackle with how fast they shipped this reel.
well I hope this reel is half way decent since I just ordered one.My ihsn 7000 went out on me again today,just got it back a month ago from sportsmans repair,not sure whats really wrong with it yet,but I won`t fish with it until I send it back out and get it back again.I`m just looking for something to last me til the end of the season,reels always break on me every year so it`s no big deal. |
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| Also the question arised how long will the reel last using double 10's since its a new reel and not many has tested it out.
at this point it's already outlasted other reels that i've used for double-10s.
i've used and wrecked Abu 7000 CS Rocket, Abu 7000iCS Rocket, Abu 7000 Big Game, Abu Record, Okuma Induron, Daiwa Luna, and Shimano 400b.
the only other reel that i haven't blown up on them is a Shimano 400TE. i don't know if this Saltist will blow up before the year is through, but at this point it's holding up where in the past i'd be on my second or third reel. at the end of last week i did notice that there was a slight squeek developing, i suppose it probably needs some oil by now...i assume the big Shimano reels are equally durable.
***here is one major limiting factor i've found with this reel. at the rate the spool spins and without a levelwind, it's easy to overcast. even if you don't get a full backlash, the line can start to fly around and get loose a bit as the cast is going out. this has resulted in some line fray as the loose curls of line flap against the crosspiece at the top of the reel while spinning at high speed. that line fray has resulted in a couple of broken lines for me.
the remedy for this is to tighten down the spool tension, shorten the casts, and keep better control of the lure during the cast.
for me, the point of a low gear ratio (4:1 or whatnot) with a big spool is to make it easier for you to reel while maintaining decent speed. this reel adds speed while still making it moderately easy to retrieve. there IS more resistance felt with this reel when reeling fast than with an Abu 7000, etc., but you're moving the bait much faster than with that reel. put on a double-8 or similar "small" bucktail with a little added weight to keep it in the water and it's stunning how fast you can burn them in.
speed is just one trigger, and not always the right one. last week i was burning double-10s with the Saltist and my boat partner was getting follows slow-rolling a double-10 spinnerbait. we talked about it, and so then i switched to a slow-moving twitch bait and started seeing fish and caught a nice one. the next day he was seeing nothing on the slow-moving spinnerbait and i raised a half-dozen fish burning a double-10 including 2 that ate in the figure-8 (but got off, dang it). sometimes it's the right tool, sometimes it isn't.
again, this isn't a reel for everyone and it's not the easiest thing in the world to use. i suspect that this winter there will be a glut of used Trinidads, Toriums, and Saltists for sale from people who didn't like them.
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| The 30TH is actually a reel with the line capacity of a 30 with the gearing and spool diameter of a 40. The larger diameter spool allows the much faster retrieve. Just a thought to consider: the 40 is only about an ounce heavier than the 30T and has the same sideplate profile, so if you can handle the fact that the reel frame is wider, the levelwind 40H with its 47" retrieve becomes a real alternative to the 30T... |
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Any updates on how the new levelwind saltist performs(how it casts,etc...) Thanks! |
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | Lambeau--
I, too, have noticed the line fray and suspected that it was caused by the overcasting and loose line hitting the hardware upon retrieve....
Has anyone notice the severe angle that the line comes off the spool to the first guide...the reel is so tall that the line makes a sharp downward angle to the first guide..I thought that might cause undue friction against the guide and contribute to fraying?
Edited by Cowboyhannah 10/14/2008 9:32 PM
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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs | Bet you'll see these around the pools at all the off season shows. |
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| With the season winding down for good, wondering what the final verdict was on the Saltist. I am looking to purchase the STTLW40HA or possibly the STTLW50HA..... anyone see the STTLW50HA ??? Wondering if this reel is overkill. I spent the year burning Dbl. #10s on a Trinidad 14 but would like antother powerhouse to burn Dbl #13s. |
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| I used the 40 this year and it took a little time to get used to the size but after a few outings now i really like it. At first I hated it, it is a big reel. If you have small hands probably not the real for you. I would look at them before ordering. Good luck and happy holidays. |
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| How much for one of those babies?  |
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| lambeau - 7/17/2008 8:27 AM
that's cool.
i've been running the Daiwa Saltist (non-levelwind) this year for my oversize bucktails and it's an awesome reel, especially at the affordable price when compared to other reels in this class.
it's extremely strong, casts a mile, and brings even hard-pulling double-12s in very fast without breaking your hand (i have the narrow high-speed version at 47"/crank). i 've found that by just slightly under-filling the spool, the line loads nicely even without the levelwind.
great reel. the addition of the levelwind will make it even easier to use.
what model specifically do you have? I just bought an SH50 and at 22.5 OZ is waaay too big! |
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| i ran a 30-size high-speed in the summer of '08. STT30TH with no levelwind, 47" per crank.
it was durable, easy to use, and very very fast.
it's large size (big sides, 23 ounces) was cumbersome for my small hands, and in the end it really was overkill with more speed than i felt was necessary.
this year i've been using a Shimano Trinidad TN 14 instead, no levelwind, 36" per crank.
it's smaller (about the size of a standard round reel, 15 ounces weight), smooth and powerful, and is plenty fast enough to blow big bucktails out of the water without too much effort. i might have to crank a few more times through the day, but the smaller reel size means that my hands are actually much less tired when i'm done.
the Saltist 20-size is comparable in speed and size, and is available with a levelwind if that's an issue for you.
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| Is the line fray mostly on non-level wind reels?
Do others get much line fray from using the STTLW30HA (level wind)?
Does masterbraid line fray much?
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | No line fray for me, I've used the LW this summer with no problems........... I'll have to check my 16 Trinidad for any line fray but I haven't really noticed anything wrong.....I use 100LB. Bronzeback
I will get another Saltest 30LW , and a 20LW in the next few weeks,........Great Reels for sure.
Jerome |
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Location: Huber Heights, Ohio | Just ordered a STTLW20HA from Shark River Mail Order for 139.99. The 30 is 147.99, best pricing I could find. |
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| good find David.
When I went to look for the reels, at first I didn't see the level wind reels when I selected "rods and reels". Of course, they appeared a few pages later. However, once I selected "rods and reels" followed by selecting "Daiwa Rods Reels", they were listed together.
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click on the following......
http://www.srmo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Cod...
shipping looks like 10.25
http://www.srmo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Cod... |
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Location: Huber Heights, Ohio | When I went through the checkout process, it indicated 0.00 for shipping and the conformation email I received showed my total to be 139.99. I did see the 10.25 shipping, so if they add it no biggie. |
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Location: Huber Heights, Ohio | Just received a shipping email and checked my bank, 139.99. No shipping charge. |
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Location: Des Moines IA | It looks like the STTLW40HA and 50A only come as a clamp on Rod set up. Is there anyway to get one with the standard rod attachment feature? |
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Location: Huber Heights, Ohio | They both have the standard reel foot as well as the rod clamp. |
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| I am looking into the Avet SX. 5.4:1, 30' pickup. All aluminum and only 12 Oz. |
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| the avet sx is a very nice reel. i purchased the 2 speed version which gives me, with very little effort i must say, aprox 36" per crank in high gear (6:1) and 24" in low gear (3.8:1). the 2 speed weighs in at slightly over 15 ozs and the side plate diameter is about the same as my lunas 2 1/4 - 2 1/2 inches making it easy to palm. i went with the avet because i prefer left handed reels. still getting used to the non levelwind / manual engage aspects but that will come in time... |
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| I just picked up the Saltist and was having a little trouble with backlashes's, any advice would be appreciated.
John |
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Location: Wisconsin | She's really touchy on the spool tension. You really have to be careful on that setting, I move mine about 1mm to either side for different lures. Also, the reel does not like to be filled to the top with line. You will also need to keep a thumb on the spool at all times to monitor the spool speed since it doesn't have brakes. |
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| Thanks, I suspect I over filled it based on your comment. I have been using bait casters for years and will try to reduce the line on the spool. This is the largest spool I have used so far.
Thanks john |
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| Thanks, I suspect I over filled it based on your comment. I have been using bait casters for years and will try to reduce the line on the spool. This is the largest spool I have used so far.
Thanks john |
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Location: New Hope MN | Johngee - 5/26/2010 12:28 PM
I just picked up the Saltist and was having a little trouble with backlashes's, any advice would be appreciated.
John
It would help if you told us which model Saltist you're using & what type of line. |
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| Sorry, it is the STTLW20HA with 80# proline.
John
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