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| This fish came from what I believe were probably both naturally reproduced
parents in the upper Turtle River watershed , Long Lake, and note the pike in the lake have a lot of green to them. Have also noted this type in the Chip and wonder if these maintain their pattern as they get bigger.
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Location: milwaukee | This fish came out of a lake in that area. I would say the answer to your question may be 'yes'.
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| This pic was put up by Cisco Kid, not sure of the lake or drainage this one came from. Another interesting pattern.
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| Nicely patterned metro tiger.
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | This lil' stinker bit on a bass tube. Natural offspring (I think) of a WI muskie and northern. From the Yellow River system, northwestern WI. My smallest muskie ever and also the coolest pattern!
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| Awesome lookin' mini-ski there Stinger! Thats a purty one. |
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| Shrump has what I consider one of the common hybrid patterns. Stinger has something I have never seen before. Not positive that is hybrid or not, counted only 18 bars coming off the dorsal side, total. Wish we could see that in a couple years. |
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Location: The Yahara Chain | FSF the Chip tigers get darker as they get bigger. The bars end up being black. |
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| I have seen various patterns on Chip tigers, including one we caught in Crane Lake years ago that was the most beautiful powder blue you ever saw. I think there are actually a lot of patterns out there that people don't commonly see or associate with cross fish. I was just interested in some of the odder ones and if some basins are producing a repetitive type of pattern in their offspring. |
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| It is hard to be sure with those pics Hot, but I don't think either fish you pictured is a hybrid. Not really interested in natural patterns, those have been documented repeatedly. More interested in naturally reproducing strains which hybridize. |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | All from the same lake; most from the same source; some from the same year class.
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| All from the same lake; most from the same source; some from the same year class.
i like the contrast betweent the first picture and the last picture. lol...
those are MN/Leech strain on the muskie side, aren't they?
with Utah looking to secure it's own brood sources, what type of muskies are they going to be using?
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| Some of the tiger Muskies are Silver pike X Muskies. I guess those have a little different but very beautiful coloration. my dad got a little silver pike and it was just gorgeous. |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | All but the second to the last on were from fry obtained from Minnesota Muskie Farms. Whatever they use to build 'em is what we got. Our new source? I'll let you all know when it's finalized; the pike half is local though. 
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| Well that would bring up another question. What northern pike strain is/was ever local to Utah?
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Location: Ogden, Ut | Local is relative - it's a population that has been within the state a long time and has been certified as disease-free. it was introduced many years ago. No idea what 'strain' it may be. Certainly not native though, if that's what you were getting at.
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Location: Hayward, WI | Here's one from a lake in the Hayward area. Relatively, but not super clear water... if that makes a difference.
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Location: oswego, il | Here are a few hybrids caught last year, same lake up north.
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| That is the same pattern, and going back up the same watershed I got my two out of, correct Todd? I am of a mind these fish are strongly influenced by the pike side on pattern, and of note, my 2 and 2 you picture, sizewise could have been the same year class. |
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Location: North Central Illinois | Very amazing thread!!! My nephew-in-law caught this 41 inch BEAST of a fish on 7/19/08 in a Northern WI brown stained lake. Apparently, this patterning is highly common of tigers in this region of "rootbeer water" lakes. Check out this fish that was successfully released hopefully to be caught again (by me!!!)!!!!!
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| PM me as to what lake the fish came out of, if you will, I am curious.
I don't think this pattern is water color related, but that this is a specific gene blend coming up like this. But, that's why I posted about it in the first place. |
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Location: North Central Illinois | Here is another pic of the fish with my bro-in-law holding it showing the massive girth to this fish!!! It easily went 20 lbs or better!! I wish we would've girthed it cause we had plenty of time to do so, but didn't think about it!!
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Location: North Central Illinois | Here is a 24 incher from July 2007!! Beautiful little guy! These particular fish seem to really fall for bass spinnerbaits!!
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Location: Big Falls MN | why is it that tigers look like they are way better built than the normal muskie or pike. they always look alot bigger. |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | If you had seen Rick Lax's repo of Sorno's Utah tiger at the PI Outing last year, you wouldn't even ask this question. They are just plain purrty hog's!!!!!
It was also so sweet to see the expression on Sorno's face, i.e., a moment I will never forget!
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Location: Contrarian Island | here is a 48" tiger my cousin caught last week on a Lac Du Flambeau reservation lake in Vilas Co. , they were walleye fishing and fish would not release and died.
and a few I have caught...tigers might be the prettiest fish out there!
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| Really nice fish, hard to tell with size of the picture but it looks like similar pattern on a bigger fish out of clearer water. That should be the same watertshed Todd M and I were fishing. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | The fish that the MN Muskie Farm are from fry that have Leech Lake strain parents. The eggs are typically taken from either Rebecca or other metro area. |
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| Awesome thread! Tigers are so beautiful it's sick. Got the best marking/pattern combos of both species. Hard to beat that.
It's already been noted I'm sure, but it does seem pretty evident that the hybrids really do retain stronger marking/coloration/pattern characteristics of their parentage. More silver-hued/spotty if one parent is an Upper Miss. strain... and darker green/more defined stripes with a Wisco strain parent. Makes complete sense I suppose.
Either way, keep throwing down with pics of these hybrids. Never caught one myself... but I'll live vicariously thru these photos!
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Location: WI | I just caught this one a few days ago on the Chip, it's my first tiger @ 39".
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | Here's one I posted on here several years ago, but will add it to this thread.
Caught in a fairly clear, sucker based lake where the Tigers occur naturally. What is interesting is there are a couple of pike in this lake, but very, very few. However the lake has a lot of tigers. The musky tend to be more on the brown side in coloration.
If I get a chance I'll post a couple more tigers.
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | Here’s a monster caught in another Vilas Cty lake with naturally occurring Tigers. This lake is a cisco based lake with tanic, yet clear colored water. Lake had been stocked in the past with muskies, and those “stocker” fish usually have a greenish hue coloration to them. The “native” fish in the lake though have a brown coloration to them. The coloration of this little guy is typical in most small tiger muskies I have seen in any lake.
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Location: WI | Wow Travis, that 48" is beatiful!!! |
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| The Tiger's in Lac Vieux Desert look like Sorno's last pic. Unfortunately I dont have a scanner to scan a pic of one I caught a few years back. I dont beileve that coloring has anything to do with Silver Northerns though. |
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| Ive caught a couple in my day....some hold some amazing color...
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Location: North Central Illinois | Bring this back to the top because I really enjoy Tigers and this thread is one of the best on the net going right now! |
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| I am glad that many have enjoyed this thread. I didn't know what to expect when I started it, but was curious as to what the varying patterns are for these fish.
There does seem to be a specific pattern for the Eastern WI fish which are occurring naturally in a couple of basins. I am suspicious it is related more to the northern pike strain, than the musky strain involved, and seems to pop up on those fish quite a lot, and that is the variant barring and thin barring patterns that occur. It is fun to look at the many hybrids here. Thanks to everyone that took the trouble to post. And please post some more as you find them. |
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| Here is a Tiger I caught last Summer in a NW Wisconsin lake.
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Bringing this back to the top!! |
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Location: MadCity Wisconsin | I'll keep it going with an Edward Lake, Ontario 43". Nice battle also.
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Location: Moses Lake, Wa | Here is a Lake Tapps Tiger caught on a ducktail lures bucktail holding against a bridge support.
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