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| Hi guys/gals
Iam 15 years old and have fished for these toothy critters for 4 year now. I havent been able to try all the baits that I have wanted to because sadly money is limited. So I try to make every bait count. And latley My confidence bait(bulldawgs) Havent been holding up to anything. So I am wondering if some of the bulldawg comparisons are better than the bulldawg itself?
Thanks for the Help
Tom Boley |
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Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana | Personally I like the Curly Sue's by Shack Attack.
But the Cheapest imitation is the Super D and a lot of guys on the board really like them.
Hope that helps |
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| I recently used BOTH a Bulldawg and the tacklebooty imitation bulldawg. Bulldawg tail was bit off on the first fish... a Pike of 29". I then put the "Imitation" on... SAME THING happened... Tail bit off by a small Pike. They WILL raise Muskies... but are not very durable externally so if your on a budget then you might try something else. I have not yet tried the Curly Sue, but I do have the Suzie Sucker... and it works awesome and the plastic is more durable. |
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Location: Twin Cities | I really like my Curly Sue's. They hold up very well. Thanks Andy! |
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Location: Iowa Great Lakes | 3 30" northens and 1 lost ski on a Super D in an hour of casting and its still in great shape. Buddy casted a tail off a Mag Dawg 1st hour of casting. I'll use Super D's from now on. |
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| No soft plastic bait is bulletproof. Bottom line. That said, there are certainly those that are better built than others. I remember being in high school and trying to support this "addiction" and had a hard time paying top dollar for baits. The Super Ds are priced right for the high schooler (and anyone looking to pinch pennies where ever possible), and Curly Sues are plain BUILT TO LAST. Can't go wrong with those two. Both good guys that frequent this board, too. |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | The Curly Sues by Shack Attack are built like tanks. If anything will hold up to the toothy guys, these things will. Best of all, they will not come apart just by casting them. I have been very very impressed by them. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Here are the two links for the Super D's and the Curly Sues by Shack Attack. These are the only ones I'm buying these days also. You won't go wrong either way imho.
Shack Attack
http://www.shackattacklures.com/
Tacklebooty
http://www.tacklebooty.com/ |
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| I recently bought a 9" curley sue. It said on the package that it was made from formula x... I think they have changed the plastic since this one was made. Anyway, the jighead is starting to pull out after about an hour of casting. It only happens when I rip it hard or when I snag weeds. Are the new ones better? Why did they stop using formula x? Also, mine has the external wire, I see now that it's all internal... again, why the change? |
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| Thanks for the support about my products. All of my baits are hand made by me; this ensures highest quality soft plastic baits on the market today (well I think so anyway). I like to think that my baits are the BMW or Mercedes of the soft plastic fishing lures, or even an Escalade if you like really big rims and dark windows!
The Formula-X thing was a big mistake for me and there are still some out there for sale that will haunt me for years! I redesigned the Curly Sue’s for 2008 with an extra strong internal harness, new molds and a custom formula American made soft plastic that’s very strong yet supple. I am a great believer in if you want a job done properly then do it yourself, that’s why I make all the baits.
If anybody has any concerns about the rigging system pulling out and you have not seen this video then have a look http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/watch.asp?id=848 also it takes a real man to wear pink and use a pink lure!
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| I'm pretty sure I can still get my old formula x sue eaten a few times. I'll have to pick up a few of the newer ones and give them a try, too. |
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| One more thing I forgot to ask... I'm sure MI is aware of the issues with bulldawgs. Does anyone know if they have fixed or are planning on fixing the problems? |
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| Hey Guys,
I was alerted to this thread by one of my loyal customers. I am only going to comment on my products. To those who think that we are not listening, WE ARE! In the last three years, we have changed our hardware four times, we have updated our harnesses three times, and our plastic formulation three times. With that said, we have now taken even more steps to produce the best dawgs ever. We are now using USA plastisols, USA split rings, and have made the internal harness like no other - which will keep the harness and lead head inside the body. We have also changed all the uptown molds to keep the eyes in better and the tails thicker. We have made our own hooks which are wide gap and heavy wire that are very sharp. All these upgrades should make some of the best dawgs you have ever used.
We are listening and have responded. With the inventory turn we have, it takes a while for the changes to hit the market place. That is why it may seem like it takes a while for you to see the changes. You will notice some of these baits to hit the market later this summer (the more popular colors) with the rest filtering in over the next year. If you see me at the shows this winter, you will see these dawgs and all the updates! We will even have some very neat suprises for you dawg lovers!
We are also working on some more very innovative soft palstic that I am very excited about.
Thank you all for you past patronage and keep watching for what we are doing.
Brad Ruh - Owner
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| Thanks Brad. I wasn't trying to take a shot at you. I also mentioned a problem w/ another mftrs bait. People need to remember that quality, price and innovation pull in three different directions. Sometimes things go wrong along the way, and you learn something, correct it, and move on. |
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Location: Nowheresville, MN | Each of the three baits mentioned has their own unique action. I still prefer dawgs having thrown all three. Super D has more of a jig action, curly sue more of a strait swimbait action (little body movement or depth change) and a dawg is the perfect combo of both.
Brad, Definetely a nice move with the coils. Now if you could go back to some of the older, stiffer plastics that would be game, set, match. I think the new plastic is waaaaay to soft and kills the action. |
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| Thanks Brad for your reply... got to love the Made in USA on your Dawgs. I know what I posted maybe made it sound like I was talking down on the Dawgs but I was just trying to say that "I" think the durabilty is equal between the Dawgs and the Super D's... comparing them when it comes to fish catching durability, they both have a "weak link" ...the TAIL. Most of us have seen the video of the side by side comparison of the 2 baits getting beat into the ground. Its an interesting comparison to say the least but in the real world the concrete doesnt have teeth.
All that being said, these types of lures really get the fish excited and follows and strikes can be way better some days verse various other lures. I raised 5 TIMES more fish with these lures compared to my fishing partner who used jerk baits, topwater and mant other lures, over 5 1/2 days on northern LOTW's a couple of weeks ago. I plan to stock the box up with Dawgs before we head up again and will be testing out the Curly Sue also.
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| Big Ol' Fish, you have to do what you have to do. Not everyone is made out of money. All of the tackle shops that bought the older dawgs have to sell what they have. You cant return them and it would be a waste to just throw them away. I know car dealerships can't return the 2007's just because its 2008. Anyways, there is nothing wrong with the dawgs that are in circulation now...they just don't fit some peoples "wants." Some of those wants, in my opinion, are a little too much.
I know no one is taking shots at anyone, but honestly, there is only so much these people (lure companies) can do. People walked on the moon so you would think they could make an indestructible "bulldawg-like" lure right? No way. The 3 lures mentioned will be used in similar situations and are basically the same "tool." Which lure came first, brand loyalty, price, "durability", what other people say, etc. are all things that will determine what people are going to use.
Like esox50 stated, there are no bulletproof soft plastic lures. If you want something any tougher, you wont be getting the same type of lure and it wouldnt be coming with a tail either. I know of the tails getting bitten off of all 3 so that is nothing to complain about. I think what we have now is as good as its going to get and if we keep trying to improve its just going to completely change the lure.
Bulldawg (original)
Curly Sue (very durable)
SuperD (priced lower than the competition)
We care more than the fish do.
Edited by Reelwise 7/11/2008 2:17 AM
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| Looks like "Big Ol' Fish's" post got pulled. I was replying to his question as to why M.I. doesnt just pull all of the older dawgs off the market and immediately put the new dawgs on the shelves. |
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Location: Not where I wanna be! | i purchased several of the larger sized of a particular brand, after about 10 dink pike and extensive throwing, all three are junk now, unfortunately. i will be spending my money on the cheaper, more durable option! A disposable musky bait is a great idea from a manufacturers stand point, but if im gonna spend my money on musky tackle i expect it to hold up to more than 1-3 fish! |
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