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Location: minocqua, wi. | ok boys here's your chance ... might as well put it out there for all to see and chastise me with. give me the tuff love i deserve ... the ranger was sold on saturday to a guy that i think is one of the most unique innovators we might see in the sport. jeff breidenbach (esoxfly) drove down the road with my center console ranger embarking on his move to st. clair and some of the most unique and creative flies and equipment i've ever seen. for him he gets into a big ranger for a good used price ... for me well ...
tomorrow i will hook up to a 1995 tuffy esox magnum powered by an '04 115 merc ... yes, i did say a tuffy powered by a merc
after shopping all the classifieds, boat dealers and options you could name i decided by just stopping to see the boat ... for the money, condition and fishing that i do, it was impossible to argue for another choice. this is "the" perfect musky fishing layout and value for 80% of what i do ...
i am turning over my ranger jacket to the guy i'm buying it from who bought himself a sweet 619 last year (he spends most of his time on eagle lake in ontario) and will become a tuffy-merc owner.
blast me ...
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Location: Contrarian Island | I don't know...there were a few times I remember you saying you would never own a "black anchor" again...hope she doesn't BLOW UP!! ; )
sort of like how you professed your love for Yamaha...but bought a Cat....
awww mannn good luck with the new ride..go get her slimed in league would ya...
Edited by MSKY HNR 6/23/2008 3:23 PM
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| Dogs and cats living together, black on the back of Sled's boat, Nelson fishing Wingra with gliders... What is the world coming to? Next thing you know esoxaddict's gonna quit posting on the internet  |
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Location: The Yahara Chain | Wow Jon.....after reading all of your comments on the black motors the last couple of years.....I'm speechless.
It is pretty hard for me to be speechless in fact my wife thinks it is impossible.
SledCostas with a merc on the back of his Tuffy listening to Big 10 football....WOW
"They play football in the north boys" |
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Location: lansing, il | what do your kids say now when you turn the key??? hahahahhaa never say never!!! remember the 60,000 dollar dock extension on eagle last year? |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | All I can say is you've seen the light Jon, I must say, I'm proud! LOL. You'll love the rig and better yet, the black thing on the back! Congrats, just too bad I still have to beat you in league. jk. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Yeah, but the BLOCK under that black hoodie is still gray  |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Not anymore! They've relieved Yamaha of all duties! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Well, a boat is a boat.
Enjoy the new ride, and to heck with anything but the bite, and the time on the water. |
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Location: nationwide | I agree with Steve, if it floats and gets you to and from your "spots" it's a good boat.
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Merckid, I thought that 2004 was the last year of the Mercahas. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | muskymeyer - 6/23/2008 3:45 PM
if it floats and gets you to and from your "spots" it's a good boat.
Corey Meyer
exactly ... starting to define things quite a bit differently these days and just glad to have found a nice boat that was cared for like this one. it's a '95 and looks like new ... definitely benefitting from a guy who takes care of his stuff ... |
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| Haven't been on the boards too much lately, but John, I need to give you a little gig here...
Maybe when you lay that bump board down up in the bow to measure that fiddy, she won't do the triple lindy on you and get away!!!
Sorry dude, I had to!! |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | that fish has shrunk over the year to take away the nightmare ... it wasn't even close to 45" ... lol
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Location: NW WI | Nice boat 'sled.....I'd buy one in a heartbeat. It would be a similar sized drop for me too, but IMO it fits that waters we like to fish better than they 'ole white bathtub.
Enjoy! |
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| Sled,
I'll send earplugs your way so that you can hang on to your hearing.
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Location: So. Illinois | Post some photos of that baby!!!!!
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Location: Madtown, WI | You will love the mag....
For the waters you fish....I can't even believe you had the ranger that long
Plus....the mag is closer to the water so the fish won't hurt themselves when they flip off the bump board into the water...nice of you to think of the fish!!!
So what rig you and stud-muffin going to use on Eagle this year???
Cory
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| ulbian - 6/23/2008 6:53 PM
Sled,
I'll send earplugs your way so that you can hang on to your hearing.
lol |
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Location: Contrarian Island | is there a pool started as to when the black anchor gives you your first headache?? ; ) |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | I'll bet that 115 2-banger won't give him any issues! That motor is a strong and reliable motor. Not to mention, that motor is surprisingly quiet. No earplugs needed for this one, that would be the EFI's that were loud. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | you're on...
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| Congrats on the new ride, Sled. So which is it? the 115 2+2? or the 115 EFI 4 stroke?
Whatever will we argue about now?! hehehe
Now, go get it slimed! |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | it's the loud one ... |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | Merckid - 6/24/2008 12:00 PM
Not to mention, that motor is surprisingly quiet. No earplugs needed for this one, that would be the EFI's that were loud.
All in frame of reference my friend. My Suzi....now that is surprisingly quiet!
Nice boat Sled, I think those things are the ultimate small to medium size water musky rig. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | good thing the lakes up there are small...those efi's sure like to eat the gas too... efi's quiet? compared to what...a chain saw?
Edited by MSKY HNR 6/25/2008 9:52 AM
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | nwild - 6/25/2008 8:51 AM
Merckid - 6/24/2008 12:00 PM
Not to mention, that motor is surprisingly quiet. No earplugs needed for this one, that would be the EFI's that were loud.
All in frame of reference my friend. My Suzi....now that is surprisingly quiet!
Well that's a given. I would hope a 4stroke would be quieter that a 2-stroke. But you want quiet, try the Verado, that's the quietest motor out there.
I said the 115 carburetored motor that Sled got are surprisingly quiet for a 2-stroke. The EFI's on the other hand are the really loud ones. The ones that say EFI on the side of the motor, unlike what Sled has. |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I must have missed the part where you said "for a two stroke" in your first statement, and not to be a naysayer, but actual testing doesn't agree with your Verado is the quietest statement at any of the RPM or Cruising speed.
Powerboat Reports has published test results comparing six different 150-HP engines:
Four-Stroke
Mercury Verado 150
Suzuki DF150
Yamaha F150
Honda BF150
Two-Stroke
Mercury Optimax 150
Evinrude E-TEC 150
In terms of sound at idle speed of 1,000-RPM, the quietest motors:
dB-SPL / Motor
63.5 -- Suzuki
64.0 -- Verado
65.5 -- Yamaha
66.5 -- Honda
69.0 -- E-TEC
72.0 -- Optimax
However, pump the speed up to 1,500-RPM, a typical No-Wake speed, and the order changes to
dB-SPL / Motor
70.0 -- Yamaha
70.5 -- Honda
71.0 -- Verado
71.5 -- Suzuki
75.0 -- E-TEC
79.0 -- Optimax
Jump ahead to cruising speed, and the order changes again. This time we are going to look at boat speed, not engine speed. This helps the two-strokes because they won't be running the engine quite as fast. Now the results are:
dB-SPL / Motor / MPH
84.0 -- E-TEC -- 29-MPH
84.0 -- Yamaha -- 27.9-MPH
84.5 -- Honda -- 27.6-MPH
87.0 -- Verado -- 27.8-MPH
89.5 -- OptiMax -- 27.7-MPH
90.5 -- Suzuki -- 30.3-MPH
At wide open throttle, the ranking changes some more. Again we compare at boat speed not engine speed:
dB-SPL / Motor / MPH
92.5 -- Honda -- 42.9-MPH
96.0 -- Verado --45.1-MPH
97.5 -- E-TEC -- 48.8-MPH
99.0 -- Suzuki -- 44.0-MPH
101.8 -- OptiMax -- 45.0-MPH
102.0 - Yamaha -- 45.3-MPH
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It's a 115 2plus2 if I'm reading this right, a great motor design that is actually pretty good on gas (and IS surprisingly quiet) if you are not WOT all the time. Over 1800 RPM it runs on 4, under 1800 RPM, runs on 2. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | it is steve ... and coming out of the hole of-course i noticed that for the first time on how the 2-4 cylinder sequencing works.
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | lambeau - 6/25/2008 2:22 PM
who wants a quiet motor???
a Tuffy deserves the attention...gotta let that Opti growl!
I'm not going to deny that when I was running an Opti for a while last year it made me pump my chest out a bit and grunt like a gorilla occasionally. I do like the option of talking to clients while the motor is running, however.
Seriously, they are all good motors, but I don't want anybody misled either. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | this 2+2 is noticeably louder than the 200 vmax |
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| TJ, WHERE IS OUR RESULTS CMON WE GOTTA SHOW SOME MUSKIE LOVE FOR TEAM SHANROCK LOL |
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Location: Mendota Heights, MN | Never known the fish to care what kind of boat you fish out of or what motor you use to get around.
Enjoy you new set-up. If it does what you need then i say it's perfect.
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Well here it is. Sled fishing out of a Merc powered Tuffy Tuesday night during league. Sorry dude, I just had too. 
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| NICE BOAT SLED.. LOVE THEM TUFFY'S LIKE THAT, CATCH A HOG BREAK IT IN RIGHT.... PREFERRABLY NOT IN LEAGUE THOUGH LOL  |
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Location: lansing, il | its a boat with 2 chairs, thats all i care about sled!!!!!!!!!!! g2g! |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | jonnysled - 6/23/2008 1:19 PM
... the ranger was sold on saturday to a guy that i think is one of the most unique innovators we might see in the sport. jeff breidenbach (esoxfly) drove down the road with my center console ranger embarking on his move to st. clair and some of the most unique and creative flies and equipment i've ever seen. for him he gets into a big ranger for a good used price .....
Thanks Jon. I appreciate the sentiment.
I'll be putting it all to work in less than a week when I get up there. I've had the boat out once, and you're right, people on the ramp launching Lund's and Trackers were looking at me like I had three heads with that boat. I don't know if a center console had ever been launched on that little lake. It was fun towing through Chicago construction.
Thanks again Jon. You ever have a layover in Detroit, I'm a phone call away, and there'll always be an open seat for you.
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