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Location: Storm Lake, IA | Was looking at the new Musky Shop Catalog and saw these new rods with Split Grip Handles. Was wondering if anyone has used them and what they thought of them? Any advantages over regular rods? |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I am considering ordering all of my client rods in split grips. The biggest thing these grips will do for you is guarantee proper casting mechanics. Someone that already has proper mechanics will probably never notice the difference between a split grip and the traditional full cork handles.
St. Croix has been making more split grips every year. I may be one of the converted.
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| nwild - 4/16/2008 9:46 PM
I am considering ordering all of my client rods in split grips. The biggest thing these grips will do for you is guarantee proper casting mechanics. Someone that already has proper mechanics will probably never notice the difference between a split grip and the traditional full cork handles.
St. Croix has been making more split grips every year. I may be one of the converted.
One of the nice things, too, is when you tuck a split grip in your armpit, it tends to rub much less than a full cork grip. I've got a couple and am growing very fond of them. |
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| I have been building most of my bass and walleye sticks with split grip. I have never built a musky stick with it. I sell all my musky rods at the end of the year to try out different things for the next year. Split grip musky rods is one of those things I am going to try.
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| The split grip Croixs are actually in the bass series designed for bass swimbaits. I looked at the lighter one for normal tails and small cranks . Unbelievable feel and lightness. Almost had Thornes build a custom for me but ultimately went with a Diamondback mainly because of price. The split grip just felt awesome in my hand but wondered how it would feel after days of casting.
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Location: Bartlett IL | Here's a picture of a split grip I did on a St. Croix SCIV Mega Swim Bait blank. The rod has been extended to 8'6" with a Fuji soft touch reel seat and the overall length of the rear grip is 16 inches and the fore grip is 4 inches.
If anyone is going to the Fox River Valley Muskies Inc. Challunge on the Chain this weekend I was planning on giving it a couple test casts while I'm there. Stop by and say hi, I work the coffee booth in the morning.
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | KSauers - 4/18/2008 6:07 PM
The split grip Croixs are actually in the bass series designed for bass swimbaits. I looked at the lighter one for normal tails and small cranks . Unbelievable feel and lightness. Almost had Thornes build a custom for me but ultimately went with a Diamondback mainly because of price. The split grip just felt awesome in my hand but wondered how it would feel after days of casting.
I am pretty sure the general public can find split grip legend tournaments in the musky models. I think Rollie and Helen's has them.
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Location: nationwide | Whoa . . . . . that looks unorthodox as he11. When I saw the post I had no clue what "split-grip" meant, that thing looks crazy. If I find anybody who has one that fishes with me I will have to give it a try. The look of that thing makes me shake my head . . . looks like somebody stole part of the cork handle.
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Location: north central wisconsin | Ryan Jinkerson has been building some beautiful split grip rods the past few years. He just finished my split grip spiral wrap 8'2" crank/top stick and I cannot wait to check it out!!!
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| nwild - 4/23/2008 1:48 PM
KSauers - 4/18/2008 6:07 PM
The split grip Croixs are actually in the bass series designed for bass swimbaits. I looked at the lighter one for normal tails and small cranks . Unbelievable feel and lightness. Almost had Thornes build a custom for me but ultimately went with a Diamondback mainly because of price. The split grip just felt awesome in my hand but wondered how it would feel after days of casting.
I am pretty sure the general public can find split grip legend tournaments in the musky models. I think Rollie and Helen's has them.
I'm pretty sure that the split grips in the new catalog are the Bass series. Same specs.
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| i have custom loomis with a split grip. it helps lighten the rod, and improves sensitivity. when i placed the order, my intentions were to have the most sensitive rod built for my prefered bait, hook, line, reel, and hands.
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this is a 7' loomis sj842 with split grip, epoxy foregrip, spiral wrapped eyes, no hook keeper(i hate them). this is the most comfortable, and enjoyable rod to fish with in my arsenal.
for the cost of an off the shelf split grip rod, i'd throw a little more money at it and go custom. there's nothing like the feel of a rod designed for your hands.
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| Keith built this jigging rod for me using syncork, and a Dback blank. Just got back from a walleye/smallmouth trip, used it for 4 days. Absolutely the most sensitive, lightest most powerful rod I have ever used.Also, in the spring /fall cold temps, the black syncork really absorbs heat and sure beats a metal -cork grip. I'll probably have a muskie rod built later this year, getting old, and the light weight would be a plus.
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Location: Ontario, California | I have been using split butt rods since the mid-90's when I was building my custom rods when no other swimbait rods were available. There are a few advantages to a split butt rod.
1.) Casting leverage - You have multple edges to hold onto when throwing a heavier bait.
2.) Reduced weight - While it doesn't reduce a lot of weight... any weight reduction is a good thing in most cases.
3.) When tucked under your armpit, the edges prevent the fish from trying to take the rod from you. Big Largemouth can hit swimbaits with such force that on occassion, it feels like they try to take the rod from you. I assume in certain instances... muskies can do the same.
4.) reduces rod "rolling" or torque from pulling baits with heavy drag comoing through the water.
In the pictures below... I think it was 18 out of 25 rods in this particular rack have the split butt sections. If I were to take pictures of all my rods... I would say that 90% of them have the split grips. I also took a picture of the swimbait rods I developed for Okuma. The one with the black butt cap you can see there are multiple edges to grip when casting. Also to prevent the rod from being taken from you. The other rod handle is what we call a leverage grip. This is basically an ergonomic design that saves your bottom hand from fatigue of casting all day. With the heighth of it too... it prevents rolling as I mentioned earlier.
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| does anyone know a web-site that i can order split cork grips from? |
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Location: Bartlett IL | AcidRod.com has them.
http://www.acidrod.com/corkGrips.html
You could also use prebuilt fore grips or rear grips. Cut and shape them to the sizes you need.
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| two disadvantages of a split grip, imo is that
1 the piece of the backgrip with no cork slides more easily of your arm.
2 there's no protection from the cork over the blank, so you must be more considering where to stick it.
Less weight is a plus i quess.
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| i use them on some of my walleye and bass rods.. tried one for musky fishing and it seems to bother my ribs a bit more espically when ripping large baits. Rather have cork there instead of a piece of graphite with a knob on the end. I didn't care for them but some love them. |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | In the 1980's I was on Berkley's factory team. We designed the Series One rods with split grips. Because of the unquie & costly construction with cork we went with foam handles. They never caught on back then even though the rods were lighter in weight and I thought looked sharp. I still have a whole series of them. I think anyone who tries them will like them for feel and ease of use. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Here is a Tica that I did.
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| Jake,
I had a couple of those Series One rods. Awesome sticks!!! |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Got about 800 new Tackle Industries split grip 9' telescopic rods in production right now. Just give me another 8 weeks Fuji is on backorder for all parts right now so that is my hold up. I myself find split grip rods to feel a little funny at first but after a little use I like them more than my full grip rods. Don't like them tucked under my arm as much though as the blank seems to dig into my side a little more. JMO |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | You are the man !!!!! WOW Telescopic 9' with a split grip, with Fuji reel seats. So James when will all end ???? Next you will coming out with a line of SUPER D reels ???? |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Never PIKEMASTER! LOL About filled my new warehouse so I went out and bought pallet racks so I could put 24 pallets up in the air to make more room. At the end of this year I will have the equivalent of 6 53' semi truck loads of lures and rods in my inventory. Bought a CAT V45b fork truck last week so I can move inventory easier and go "up" 15' in my warehouse. I got to see a picture of the Rapala (Normark) warehouse in Minneapolis last year. I have a ways to go to catch up to them but I am on my way... They only grossed a little over $230MM in 2009. ha ha
James
PS-Reels may be in my future if all goes well. Already talking with a factory that makes Shimano reels. The typical parts that normally gets shelled out in a reel can also be made with titanium. Maybe a version of the TE400 (Titanium400) but for half the price would fit that TI rod you have? |
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Location: Iowa Great Lakes | jakejusa - 5/6/2010 12:57 PM
In the 1980's I was on Berkley's factory team. We designed the Series One rods with split grips. Because of the unquie & costly construction with cork we went with foam handles. They never caught on back then even though the rods were lighter in weight and I thought looked sharp. I still have a whole series of them. I think anyone who tries them will like them for feel and ease of use.
I loved those rods, I have one yet dating back to around 1990, still use it from time to time yet. |
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| How will the weight and balance on the splitgrip TI rod be compared to the screwon handle model? Is it possible to get one that's non-telespcopic? |
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| Best Advantage of the Split-grip rods is the feel. When holding a split grip you can really feel the vibrations given off the lure your using. Makes it a lot easier and more effective when switching speed and action of the bait. |
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Location: sun prairie,wi | james where can i get on the waiting list for one of those new rods.....email me..
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Location: Land of the Musky | I will have them available in about 8 weeks. Fuji had a backorder and it held up production. Don't worry on getting one. I never make just a few of anything. I will have between 100-200 of each model in stok in about 8 weeks. |
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| Are you getting the pink ones in too? Wife wants one 
James, check my post a couple up about the weight and balance on these new rods. Curious to know how they will compare. Thanks |
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Location: Land of the Musky | I did not have enough intrest in hot pink to I went with the camo wraps. Also wanted to send some camo rods to Operation Musky so they won out with my limited budget to make new items this year. I may make a few hot pink models next year in 8' rods though. |
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Location: Michigan | James, have you actually quit your day job yet? WHen do you have time for all this? LOL... |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | wow... split grip TI rod. YUM! |
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Location: Land of the Musky | My prices are too low to quit my day job |
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Location: Freedom, WI | Thought I would add my 2 cents, hate them got rid of the one I had and will not get them again. Yes it makes you put your hand in the right place but if it is not in the right place it is hard to hold onto (think 20mph winds and rain and exact hand placement). If you palm your real and your arm is not the right length it does not fit under your arm very good, I also use my arm to hold the rod instead of just my hand. |
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Location: sun prairie,wi | i am trying one out this season...just went to gander today and saw they had gander split grip musky rods for 150 so i had yo try on out...
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